Matthew McConaughey is considering Texas governor run

[Chris-]

1 minute ago, mclumber1 said:

 

Oh the horror

It’s ok, we still love ya though. 

[Kal-El814]

1 minute ago, mclumber1 said:

Oh the horror

 

I used to believe in Santa Claus and at one point I was a practicing Catholic, so I understand the appeal of things that sound nice but cannot actually exist.

[Iculus]

5 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

 

Oh the horror

indeed. glad that you are on board. 

[SuperSpreader]

If socially liberal means TX legalizes and minorities are charged with fewer crimes that white ppl get away with that's a +

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Fiscally conservative in this country historically means Black people (and other marginalized groups) don't deserve the ability to improve their lot in life from their lower station due to active, overt, and deliberate state policy.

 

Miss me with that bullshit. 

[Greatoneshere]

6 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Fiscally conservative in this country historically means Black people (and other marginalized groups) don't deserve the ability to improve their lot in life from their lower station due to active, overt, and deliberate state policy.

 

Miss me with that bullshit. 

 

I always laugh at people who say socially liberal/fiscally conservative as if financial policies don't affect social values in systemic and institutional ways. It's such a dumb ideology that eats itself and they don't even know it.

[mclumber1]

So they only true positions one can have are socially liberal and fiscally liberal, OR socially conservative and fiscally conservative? 

[Greatoneshere]

2 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

So they only true positions one can have are socially liberal and fiscally liberal, OR socially conservative and fiscally conservative? 

 

I mean, it can be more complex than that, but to suggest you can be socially liberal yet fiscally conservative and not see how one greatly affects the other strikes me as super dumb. Cognitive dissonance to the max!  

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Just now, mclumber1 said:

So they only true positions one can have are socially liberal and fiscally liberal, OR socially conservative and fiscally conservative? 

Have whatever positions you want just realize the context in which they come from and what the effects of such beliefs have on a society that is deeply unequal in terms of class, gender, and race.

[Greatoneshere]

Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Have whatever positions you want just realize the context in which they come from and what the effects of such beliefs have on a society that is deeply unequal in terms of class, gender, and race.

 

And there's the complexity I'm talking about. 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

At least with a fiscally liberal/socially conservative position, people are given the opportunity to improve their material conditions which then allows them to move up the hierarchy of needs.  With that upward movement, the chances that they will adopt more socially "liberal" positions increase.

 

That won't happen if they're stuck at the bottom tier due to fiscally "conservative" policies because they will constantly trying to survive which necessarily inhibits the reasoning necessary to adopt a more "liberal" social viewpoint.

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

At least with a fiscally liberal/socially conservative position, people are given the opportunity to improve their material conditions which then allows them to move up the hierarchy of needs.  With that upward movement, the chances that they will adopt more socially "liberal" positions increase.

 

That won't happen if they're stuck at the bottom tier due to fiscally "conervative" policies.

 

And even within the context of social conservativism there is room to provide real material gains which can alleviate or at least mitigate the effects of social conservativism. E.g. an out teenager who is kicked out of their home could be entitled to housing and therapy or Black families would be guaranteed health care to offset the freeway that bulldozed their neighborhood decades ago leaving children with elevated levels of pollution in the air and asthma and other related negative effects.

 

Not whether this would happen to second class citizens is a very valid question.

[Guest]

Nobody on the board has been alive for any actual fiscally conservative governance at the federal level. Deficit spending on bullets and bombs is not fiscally conservative.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

4 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

Nobody on the board has been alive for any actual fiscally conservative governance at the federal level. Deficit spending on bullets and bombs is not fiscally conservative.

Virtually every single state has done the cut social services/education and also cut taxes and very few have undone these changes. I know you said at the federal level but most of the policy making and spending happens locally

[Kal-El814]

43 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

So they only true positions one can have are socially liberal and fiscally liberal, OR socially conservative and fiscally conservative? 

 

No, but @b_m_b_m_b_m articulated my position on it well enough.

[Fizzzzle]

I'd say arguing over whether Matthew fucking McConaughey's particular tax policies are conservative kind of misses the point in this scenario. Texas having a Democrat governor would be huge. Kind of like how Joe Manchin may fucking suck, but the fact that a Democrat holds a Senate seat in West Virginia is nothing short of a miracle.

 

(that's assuming he even ran as a Democrat, which is unclear, but it would make sense if he would want to unseat Abbott)

 

In some instances, I think pursuing an "all or nothing" strategy isn't very sound advice.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

 

60+% of the vote my dudes

[Guest]

My next governor, and your president in 2029

[Fizzzzle]

I think he's a crazy person, but imagine having a Democrat governor of Texas who wants weed to be legalized and shit. His WAR stat is insanely high.

[Kal-El814]

1 hour ago, sblfilms said:

My next governor, and your president in 2029

 

Thanks, I hate it.

[Uaarkson]

This guy makes the Governator seem like an elder statesman. Is there any bigger parasite on earth than the “actor”?

[Keyser_Soze]

Makes it hard to fling mud at him since he's so charismatic.

[cusideabelincoln]

2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

 

60+% of the vote my dudes

 

Our next cult leader.

[mclumber1]

McConaughey is everything that that limp wristed twerp Beto wishes he was.  

[Joe]

9 hours ago, mclumber1 said:

McConaughey is everything that that limp wristed twerp Beto wishes he was.  

Lmao what on Earth?

[Bloodporne]

I listened to his interview with Joe Rogan because I really dig him as an actor and yeah, he's more than halfway to batshit-Hollywood-insane. He's on some really weird spiritual guru trip apparently and says really bizarre shit really casually. He's at that stage. 

 

The only thing him and other people involved in the insane alternate universe that Hollywood appears to be should be governing is their own asinine egos. 

[SuperSpreader]

6 hours ago, Bloodporne said:

I listened to his interview with Joe Rogan because I really dig him as an actor and yeah, he's more than halfway to batshit-Hollywood-insane. He's on some really weird spiritual guru trip apparently and says really bizarre shit really casually. He's at that stage. 

 

The only thing him and other people involved in the insane alternate universe that Hollywood appears to be should be governing is their own asinine egos. 

Better than Abbott. 

[Bloodporne]

12 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said:

Better than Abbott. 

Well based on the very little I know about that man, yeah, it can't get that much worse I suppose so I guess a wacko will do. 

[Massdriver]

On 7/6/2021 at 3:15 PM, SuperSpreader said:

Better than Abbott. 

Yep.  If McConaughey chooses not to run, Texas will be Abbott/Patrick led till at least 2026. Beto is running behind by over 10% against Abbott while McConaughey is statistically even. Who knows if that support will stay there once he declares himself a Democrat or Independent, but it's still likely he has a much better shot than Beto. The best scenario for Democrats would be McConaughey for governor and Beto for Lt. Governor. In Texas, Lt. Governor has a ton of power, so Beto shouldn't pass it over. 

 

Gov. Abbott rebounds against possible challenger Matthew McConaughey, has razor-thin edge over actor (dallasnews.com)

[Signifyin(g)Monkey]

On 3/12/2021 at 6:45 PM, Greatoneshere said:

 

Covid has forced them onto their phones (sports were over for awhile there), and they just believe whatever they see on their Facebook communities. Thanks Zuckerberg! I have a friend whose mom in Florida was quite normal, now she's a QAnon psycho. 

 

So, like, you know. Normies.

Q’s brought up some legitimate concerns, you know, the Capitol rioters weren’t monsters, you have to try to see both—

 

No.  Can’t do it.

[Signifyin(g)Monkey]

On 3/15/2021 at 12:38 PM, mclumber1 said:

So they only true positions one can have are socially liberal and fiscally liberal, OR socially conservative and fiscally conservative? 

 

The thesis runs that centrists are more detestable than full-blown socially conservative/fiscally conservative right-wingers, because the latter are at least honest about their intentions, whereas the former are guilty of dishonestly smuggling right-wing policies through the black door.  A version of the right wing’s conception ‘RINO’.  I get the idea, and there might be *some* truth to it, but I also think it’s problematic in that it basically encourages a hyper-polarized politics.

 

Which maybe at one point filled me with indifference, but then a group of people got so jacked up on the craziness produced by polarized politics that they stormed the capital.

 

….dammit, I’m both-sidesing again…

[brucoe]

The problem with politics here in Texas is that so few people even know what they stand for politically, but have fallen into this weird state of pointing fingers at random people and saying "I'm not like that guy." Conservatism used to actually mean something. Now, it's "we're not liberals" without any further meaning, which ironically also means not understanding exactly what it is about liberals that somehow makes not being one of them a good thing because that designation changes almost on an hourly basis.

[CitizenVectron]

2 minutes ago, brucoe said:

The problem with politics here in Texas is that so few people even know what they stand for politically, but have fallen into this weird state of pointing fingers at random people and saying "I'm not like that guy." Conservatism used to actually mean something. Now, it's "we're not liberals" without any further meaning, which ironically also means not understanding exactly what it is about liberals that somehow makes not being one of them a good thing because that designation changes almost on an hourly basis.

 

It's actually a great strategy because it lets them define liberal as whatever they want (that scares people):

• Anti-white
• Anti-history (which is Texan Strong!)
• Anti-prosperity
• Anti-religion

 

[brucoe]

3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

It's actually a great strategy because it lets them define liberal as whatever they want (that scares people):

• Anti-white
• Anti-history (which is Texan Strong!)
• Anti-prosperity
• Anti-religion

 

Yeah, it gets them elected, but then allows them to stagnate for years and get nothing accomplished because their only focus is on ridiculing the other side, not coming up with solutions to simple things like, oh I don't know, energy grids, weather patterns and starvation.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

The nature of conservativism is reactionary anti liberalism, always has been. From Herbert Hoover to Goldwater to Reagan to W Bush to Trump.