High-altitude UFO shot down over Alaska

[LazyPiranha]

Believing these are potentially aliens means accepting that some species somewhere has mastered the art of intergalactic travel but has also failed to develop the telescope.  Even momentary observation of earth from space would show that we can launch things into space, keep them there, can fly at supersonic speeds, and can blow things up from a distance.  There’s very little of interest they could figure out floating from an extremely high altitude that they couldn’t figure out from space, they’re not just going to putter around floating aimlessly and see what happens. 

[Brian]

4 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said:

Believing these are potentially aliens means accepting that some species somewhere has mastered the art of intergalactic travel but has also failed to develop the telescope.  Even momentary observation of earth from space would show that we can launch things into space, keep them there, can fly at supersonic speeds, and can blow things up from a distance.  There’s very little of interest they could figure out floating from an extremely high altitude that they couldn’t figure out from space, they’re not just going to putter around floating aimlessly and see what happens. 

Same BS where Aliens come to Earth and don’t realize they are allergic to fucking water. 
 

#MNightsucks

[mclumber1]

2 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said:

Believing these are potentially aliens means accepting that some species somewhere has mastered the art of intergalactic travel but has also failed to develop the telescope.  Even momentary observation of earth from space would show that we can launch things into space, keep them there, can fly at supersonic speeds, and can blow things up from a distance.  There’s very little of interest they could figure out floating from an extremely high altitude that they couldn’t figure out from space, they’re not just going to putter around floating aimlessly and see what happens. 

 

These things are probably man made.  BUT if they were made by aliens...

 

If the aliens understood the capability of humanity to create and field such weapons, perhaps they also determined that it's not a huge deal if humans destroy a certain percentage of these things?  Although not truly a parallel, but when the Soviets sent multiple landers to Venus, they fully understood and accepted that these craft would have an extremely short lifespan if they reached the surface intact.  Even if they only survived a few minutes, the science gathering data they collected would be worth it.  

 

Maybe the aliens think the same in regards to these craft?

[Jason]

1 minute ago, mclumber1 said:

 

These things are probably man made.  BUT if they were made by aliens...

 

If the aliens understood the capability of humanity to create and field such weapons, perhaps they also determined that it's not a huge deal if humans destroy a certain percentage of these things?  Although not truly a parallel, but when the Soviets sent multiple landers to Venus, they fully understood and accepted that these craft would have an extremely short lifespan if they reached the surface intact.  Even if they only survived a few minutes, the science gathering data they collected would be worth it.  

 

Maybe the aliens think the same in regards to these craft?

 

Maybe they're testing our defenses.

[Demut]

16 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said:

intergalactic travel

Did you mean to type "intragalactic" for some reason?

[Massdriver]

[Massdriver]

They are probably Chinese and almost certainly from humans. If they were alien origin, it would almost certainly be robotic, potentially stemming from probes that have been traveling for hundreds of millions of years that are self replicating. The civilization that built them would potentially have died off. If we assume FTL travel which seems even more unlikely, I don't know how to speculate at that point.

[LazyPiranha]

Exactly, somehow mastered FTL travel, but has nothing better to do than leave weird floating things in the sky.

[Keyser_Soze]

2 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said:

Exactly, somehow mastered FTL travel, but has nothing better to do than leave weird floating things in the sky.

 

And somehow shitty human tech can take them down.

[LazyPiranha]

Just now, Keyser_Soze said:

 

And somehow shitty human tech can take them down.

That’s not even the surprising part, most things will blow up if you hit them with a missile, but this is the equivalent of landing men on mars and sending them with a horse and carriage.  

[GeneticBlueprint]

Also, surely aliens who have mastered the ability to travel to another planet also understand the multiple dangers of flying around where other aircraft are.

[osxmatt]

1 hour ago, LazyPiranha said:

Believing these are potentially aliens means accepting that some species somewhere has mastered the art of intergalactic travel but has also failed to develop the telescope.  Even momentary observation of earth from space would show that we can launch things into space, keep them there, can fly at supersonic speeds, and can blow things up from a distance.  There’s very little of interest they could figure out floating from an extremely high altitude that they couldn’t figure out from space, they’re not just going to putter around floating aimlessly and see what happens. 

 

It also means believing they've mastered the art of intergalactic space travel, but somehow can't evade or jam fifth-gen Earth planes.

[Keyser_Soze]

Or maybe all aliens are dumb and the twist of Signs wasn't that far fetched!

[CitizenVectron]

2 hours ago, LazyPiranha said:

Believing these are potentially aliens means accepting that some species somewhere has mastered the art of intergalactic travel but has also failed to develop the telescope.  Even momentary observation of earth from space would show that we can launch things into space, keep them there, can fly at supersonic speeds, and can blow things up from a distance.  There’s very little of interest they could figure out floating from an extremely high altitude that they couldn’t figure out from space, they’re not just going to putter around floating aimlessly and see what happens. 

 

45 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said:

Exactly, somehow mastered FTL travel, but has nothing better to do than leave weird floating things in the sky.

 

[CitizenVectron]

It's gonna be wild when it turns out all these things are from Equatorial Guinea or something.

[silentbob]

It’s just a bunch of Gender Reveals that went/gone terribly terribly bad. 

[GeneticBlueprint]

20 minutes ago, silentbob said:

It’s just a bunch of Gender Reveals that went/gone terribly terribly bad. 

I 100% support missile strikes on gender reveals. 

[AbsolutSurgen]

None of these last 3 objects have had any sort of propulsion, and none of them were emitting communications signals.

 

It's never aliens.

[GeneticBlueprint]

In the same realm of likelihood as aliens at any rate. 

[Spawn_of_Apathy]

17 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

None of these last 3 objects have had any sort of propulsion, and none of them were emitting communications signals.

 

It's never aliens.

One day it will be. 

[Jason]

1 minute ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

In the same realm of likelihood as aliens at any rate. 

 

Reliable intel said it was Biblically Accurate Commie Jesus.

[mclumber1]

All of you who are saying it couldn't be aliens because of the lightyears distance and the infeasibility of FTL travel are being too narrow minded.  Just because humanity hasn't figured out how to do it or if the physics is even possible, doesn't mean some other civilization that is potentially millions of years more advanced than our own hasn't either found a workaround or simply solved the underlying physics problems. 

 

Pure hubris!

[Jwheel86]

2 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

All of you who are saying it couldn't be aliens because of the lightyears distance and the infeasibility of FTL travel are being too narrow minded.  Just because humanity hasn't figured out how to do it or if the physics is even possible, doesn't mean some other civilization that is potentially millions of years more advanced than our own hasn't either found a workaround or simply solved the underlying physics problems. 

 

Pure hubris!

 

Yeah but imagine being that advanced and getting shot down by Joe Biden and Justin Trudeau.

[AbsolutSurgen]

8 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

All of you who are saying it couldn't be aliens because of the lightyears distance and the infeasibility of FTL travel are being too narrow minded.  Just because humanity hasn't figured out how to do it or if the physics is even possible, doesn't mean some other civilization that is potentially millions of years more advanced than our own hasn't either found a workaround or simply solved the underlying physics problems. 

 

Pure hubris!

When they get here, they're not going to appear as weather balloons over Lake Huron.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

28 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

When they get here, they're not going to appear as weather balloons over Lake Huron.

Yes. They will appear over the largest, and therefore best lake, Superior 

[mclumber1]

1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Yes. They will appear over the largest, and therefore best lake, Superior 

 

They are definitely going to Lake Titicaca.

[GeneticBlueprint]

14 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

 

They are definitely going to Lake Titicaca.

 

Underrated destination if you like adventure-type vacations.

[Zaku3]

21 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said:

 

Have you tried the Xenonauts 2 demo, it's on steam next fest!

 

Yes waiting for full release. Figured since not everything is in it be better to wsit for the full release.

[Demut]

5 hours ago, osxmatt said:

intergalactic space travel

What is it with you guys and intergalactic visitors?

 

Also, anyone going on about "muh cosmic distances" just isn't thinking big enough. With the kind of power that you get access to with a Dyson Swarm the problem of traveling between the stars becomes trivially easy. Now, that we haven't seen any evidence of said megastructures (and you'd expect us to if they were out there) is a different matter

[Massdriver]

1 hour ago, Demut said:

What is it with you guys and intergalactic visitors?

 

Also, anyone going on about "muh cosmic distances" just isn't thinking big enough. With the kind of power that you get access to with a Dyson Swarm the problem of traveling between the stars becomes trivially easy. Now, that we haven't seen any evidence of said megastructures (and you'd expect us to if they were out there) is a different matter

Are you saying that a Dyson Swarm would make it easier to travel ftl or just that a civ that has one would have lots of energy and resources to spare to build lots of probes?

[CayceG]

U.S.-China Tensions Rise Over Spy Programs Amid UFO Investigations - The New York Times

WWW.NYTIMES.COM

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The Biden administration is looking into mysterious U.F.O. encounters and pushing back against China over accusations of widespread espionage.

 

 

 

The New York Times with some surprising revelations here. 

 

1. The balloon was confirmed to be Chinese because we tracked it all the way to the US from its origin point on Hainan Island. 

2. The US has allegedly (from Chinese accusations) launched several surveillance balloons that crossed into Chinese airspace (unclear if this means waters claimed by China or mainland China). 

3. Another balloon from China was launched towards US bases in the Middle East and it moved east to west, indicating propulsion. 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

Future historians are going to chuckle that the first shots of the Sino-American War involved shooting down balloons.

 

December 7th, 1941 - Pearl Harbor Day

September 11, 2001 - Patriot Day

February 4, 2023 - The Day An F-22 Raptor Popped A Chinese Balloon With An AIM-9X

 

This is all so very goddamned absurd.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

HELL, THERE'S EVEN A UFO ANGLE THAT IS ACTUALLY BEING TAKEN SOMEWHAT SERIOUSLY!

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Imagine the Dan Carlin retelling of this whole thing

[CitizenVectron]

It sounds like the Lake Huron object had dangling strings, but nothing was attached (according to what the pilots could see). I wonder...could China be sending small balloons with some kind of shorter-range UAVs attached? Get near sensitive areas, release the drones, etc. Obviously they knew the US wasn't able to detect the slow-moving balloons.

 

Just a thought.