CayceG Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Lobbyist for Saudi Alfalfa Company Desiccating Arizona Was Elected to Maricopa County Board of Supervisors THEINTERCEPT.COM Thomas Galvin lobbied on behalf of a Saudi company soaking up Arizona’s groundwater. He is now mediating an ongoing water dispute in neighboring Maricopa County. The Board of Supervisors oversees water rights disputes. The water wars are going to be lost to multinational corporate interests without a fight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Is there any aspect of human life the control of which won’t inevitably fall into multinational corporate hands? I can’t think of any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69los Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Uaarkson said: Is there any aspect of human life the control of which won’t inevitably fall into multinational corporate hands? I can’t think of any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Uaarkson said: Is there any aspect of human life the control of which won’t inevitably fall into multinational corporate hands? I can’t think of any. The dystopian, megacorp-dominated future foretold by every single piece of cyberpunk-themed media is look more prophetic with each passing day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Arizona should be illegal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 On 11/28/2022 at 3:52 PM, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The dystopian, megacorp-dominated future foretold by every single piece of cyberpunk-themed media is look more prophetic with each passing day. with gusto at that. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/30/san-francisco-police-robots-kill/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 It's continuing to happen. Skipped Showers, Paper Plates: An Arizona Suburb’s Water Is Cut Off - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM Hundreds of homes outside the boundaries of Scottsdale can no longer get water from the city, so their owners are living a worst-case scenario of drought in the West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Can’t we just stop allowing suburban sprawl subdivisions in the desert? 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I don't feel bad for those people at all. This is a heavily Republican area, so global warming is fake and let the free market work itself out. Oh you want water? Gotta pay for it. Supply and demand after all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 44 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said: I don't feel bad for those people at all. This is a heavily Republican area, so global warming is fake and let the free market work itself out. Oh you want water? Gotta pay for it. Supply and demand after all. Inhumane and incorrect post. Congrats on the double whammy of shittiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Why should I feel bad about people about people who moved to the middle of the desert crying about having to buy expensive water? The Southwest has been dealing with drought for 20 years now. Scientists have been warning for even longer about the effects of global warming and the impact on the region. If they choose to ignore or not believe it thats their problem. The market working itself out is Republican gospel which is what this area is primarily. Part of that is people getting fucked for poor decisions. Maybe the market will work itself out and people will stop building houses in stupid places. Quote To prevent unsustainable development in a desert state, Arizona passed a law in 1980 requiring subdivisions with six or more lots to show proof that they have a 100-year water supply. But developers in Rio Verde Foothills have been sidestepping the rule by carving larger parcels into sections with four or five houses each, creating the impression of a miniature suburbia, but one that did not need to legally prove it had water. Quote When some proposed forming their own self-funded water provider, other residents revolted, saying the idea would foist an expensive, freedom-stealing new arm of government on them. The idea collapsed. Other solutions, like allowing a larger water utility to serve the area, could be years off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Joe said: Inhumane and incorrect post. Congrats on the double whammy of shittiness. If you could take water from any other place in the world to give to Arizona, where would you take it from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, unogueen said: If you could take water from any other place in the world to give to Arizona, where would you take it from? Florida 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Fair enough. I'm constantly bothered by the lack of clarity that we ARE in the middle of climate change, a lot of area changes are already permanent. Framing shit into policy is technically correct, like a murder has a victim and a killer. At least set off the rational ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Jason said: Florida Great Lakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Great Lakes. Hey I need those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, unogueen said: Hey I need those. Arizona’s needs would be met without you even noticing tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Arizona’s needs would be met without you even noticing tbh. No. You'll just spend it hookers and blackjacks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, unogueen said: No. You'll just spend it hookers and blackjacks. I certainly will but I don’t live in AZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, GeneticBlueprint said: I certainly will but I don’t live in AZ. Stop caping for AZ then. Take care of the home roost. And it's supply of water to trade for cardinal sins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, unogueen said: Stop caping for AZ then. Take care of the home roost. And it's supply of water to trade for cardinal sins. We should all be better about sharing and distributing resources in a nation as wealthy as this one. Maybe you can pipe them water and they can airlift some awesome taquerias to Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Actually I’d just look at it as a ransom to keep some cooky cons from inevitably moving to your area when the water runs out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Actually I’d just look at it as a ransom to keep some cooky cons from inevitably moving to your area when the water runs out. 'You best pour that water back in the lake mister, and let me look at the back of you...' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said: We should all be better about sharing and distributing resources in a nation as wealthy as this one. Maybe you can pipe them water and they can airlift some awesome taquerias to Michigan. Living in a way that demands many extra resources is the opposite of being better about sharing and distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said: We should all be better about sharing and distributing resources in a nation as wealthy as this one. Maybe you can pipe them water and they can airlift some awesome taquerias to Michigan. You can't pipe water that far, the amount you need is far too great, best to start implementing policies to assist in de-populating areas and massive desalinization plants in others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoidHater Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 These are the best and worst states for water efficiency THEHILL.COM California, Texas and Arizona scored the highest on a new ranking of nationwide water efficiency policies, while Mississippi, Alaska and the... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, TyphoidHater said: These are the best and worst states for water efficiency THEHILL.COM California, Texas and Arizona scored the highest on a new ranking of nationwide water efficiency policies, while Mississippi, Alaska and the... This is a measure of water laws, not water use. And it's not factoring in the water usage of specific industries and how those industries exist in places like CA and AZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 It doesn’t help that we basically have the Dutton family running our water here in the state either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 5:23 AM, PaladinSolo said: You can't pipe water that far Not with that attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 If we can find a way to airlift entire taquerias we can lay massive pipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 On 1/16/2023 at 3:01 PM, finaljedi said: Can’t we just stop allowing suburban sprawl subdivisions in the desert? Homes in the desert (at least in Las Vegas) recycle all of the water that is used indoors. But...Anything used outdoors such as in pools or for landscaping/lawns is lost to evaporation. The homes aren't the problem - it's the stuff outside the homes that account for the loss of water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: If we can find a way to airlift entire taquerias we can lay massive pipe Let me go on record that I’m always in favor of laying massive pipe 👍 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 hours ago, mclumber1 said: Homes in the desert (at least in Las Vegas) recycle all of the water that is used indoors. But...Anything used outdoors such as in pools or for landscaping/lawns is lost to evaporation. The homes aren't the problem - it's the stuff outside the homes that account for the loss of water. So Las Vegas doesn't use reclaimed water like Reno does for landscaping/lawns? Because you're not supposed to drink that water which is strictly used just for that purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Let me go on record that I’m always in favor of laying massive pipe 👍 Do you outsource that job too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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