PaladinSolo Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Twitted sued for copyright by Sony, Universal | Fortune FORTUNE.COM One problem for Elon Musk: He’s called copyright a “plague on humanity.” The National Music Publishers’ Association (NMPA) is representing the coalition in the suit, which claims that publishers sent copyright violation notices for 1,700 songs, on which the social network took no action. The coalition is seeking fines of up to $150,000 per violation. “Twitter has engaged in, knowingly facilitated, and profited from copyright infringement, at the expense of music creators, to whom Twitter pays nothing,” the plaintiffs allege. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Wait till the movie lawsuits start happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Twitted sued for copyright by Sony, Universal | Fortune FORTUNE.COM One problem for Elon Musk: He’s called copyright a “plague on humanity.” The National Music Publishers’ Association (NMPA) is representing the coalition in the suit, which claims that publishers sent copyright violation notices for 1,700 songs, on which the social network took no action. The coalition is seeking fines of up to $150,000 per violation. “Twitter has engaged in, knowingly facilitated, and profited from copyright infringement, at the expense of music creators, to whom Twitter pays nothing,” the plaintiffs allege. Ehhhh I would bet money (specifically 150k x 1700) that this is some bullshit solely because of who’s making the claim. I mean I’m sure legally it’s NOT some bullshit but the NMPA spends most of its time going after kids on YouTube trying to learn a song and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Ehhhh I would bet money (specifically 150k x 1700) that this is some bullshit solely because of who’s making the claim. I mean I’m sure legally it’s NOT some bullshit but the NMPA spends most of its time going after kids on YouTube trying to learn a song and the like. In this case, it seems more likely they're upset that Twitter has been ignoring DMCA takedowns. Twitter has already been sued a few times since Musk took over for failing to act on legitimate DMCA requests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: In this case, it seems more likely they're upset that Twitter has been ignoring DMCA takedowns. Twitter has already been sued a few times since Musk took over for failing to act on legitimate DMCA requests. Well that’s where my “legally it’s not some bullshit” statement comes in. But it is bullshit. So many DMCA takedowns are petty dumb nonsense so some dude at a computer can meet a quota of takedowns. Many don’t even meet the standard but a Google or a Twitter aren’t going to stick up for some guy teaching music theory with 5 subs over the claim of a group representing several major labels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 DMCA is a broken and shitty system. I'll have to side with Twitter on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Elon Musk is starting to face the consequences of not paying Twitter's bills QZ.COM Twitter is facing eviction from an office in Boulder where it hasn't paid rent for months 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: DMCA is a broken and shitty system. I'll have to side with Twitter on this one. I think this is more of a "we cut the position of the person/people that did that work." and not "DMCA is bullshit" on Twatters side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, Ominous said: I think this is more of a "we cut the position of the person/people that did that work." and not "DMCA is bullshit" on Twatters side. Well a broken clock and all of that stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Is there no option where the record companies and the Muskrat both lose? Because that's the outcome I'm rooting for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Jason said: Is there no option where the record companies and the Muskrat both lose? Because that's the outcome I'm rooting for. Unlikely. Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube all have licensing deals with the major labels as well as have some form of best effort moderation for DMCA requests. Actually, I'm pretty sure Twitter did as well until Musk pulled them out of the agreement. This should be an easy win for the record companies. There's no challenging the constitutionality of the DMCA here and other social media companies want no part of pulling the rug out from under the DMCA. Without it, they open themselves up to lawsuits, same as what Twitter is facing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Meanwhile the whole movie of across the spider-verse is up on twitter, still not taken down after almost 2 days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: Meanwhile the whole movie of across the spider-verse is up on twitter, still not taken down after almost 2 days. Musk is too busy going full anti-vax with the dumbass duo of Joe Rogan and RFK Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 minute ago, thewhyteboar said: Musk is too busy going full anti-vax with the dumbass duo of Joe Rogan and RFK Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 18 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Meanwhile the whole movie of across the spider-verse is up on twitter, still not taken down after almost 2 days. Man, they really did remix that audio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 7 hours ago, Jason said: What a cissy 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 All about that free speech 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Also we know cis isn’t a slur because no comedian has a Netflix special about how they can’t say it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Musk refused to pay annual bonuses promised to Twitter employees, lawsuit says ARSTECHNICA.COM Lawsuit: Workers relied on promise of bonus when opting to stay after Musk buyout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 11 hours ago, Jason said: Those sure are some words strung together into a sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Musk not pay people? (Yeah i'm being a sicko with every new news article). 11 hours ago, Jason said: How odd. "tranny" seems to be ok as people have posted tons of examples of people saying it with no issue. How come no mention of that in his post. My apologies to our lovely LGBTQ2S+ users for using that word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I mean that’s just such obvious bait like it’s him suppressing speech in a way that encourages people to use hate speech instead and the joke is that he used free speech as an excuse previously to condone hate speech? Like he’s an idiot but he has enough people around him that he knows what’s going on with all his culture war nonsense he shit posts. Idk it’s just not worth posting that tripe even for dunking on him because he seems self aware. It is interesting that obviously he has decided that doing whatever he can to help set a right wing government in power has a value in the protection they could afford that is greater than negative publicity caused by a ceo being disliked by a large amount of the people. I think his biggest mistake with that is just overvaluing how much twitter, and himself, can really do to win elections. I would have chosen to keep my brand in better shape instead but who knows. Usually it’s the politicians who try to convince the working class that the real issue is the working class and that the rich are the ones who have their back. The actual billionaires seem to prefer to stay away for obvious reasons and pretend to be some sort of humanitarian centrist. Elon chose to plead the case himself, obviously seeing a value in exploiting the MAGA crowd. So now you get the worlds richest man out there pretending he’s some underdog truth prophet and it’s all kinda really dumb. Time will tell but I think unless your name is Donald Trump then it’s a bad bet to stake your future on the MAGA crowd. At some point they will want more extremism out of him than he will be willing to take the financial risk for and he’s just goin to be left living in a country that hates him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, stepee said: I mean that’s just such obvious bait like it’s him suppressing speech in a way that encourages people to use hate speech instead and the joke is that he used free speech as an excuse previously to condone hate speech? Like he’s an idiot but he has enough people around him that he knows what’s going on with all his culture war nonsense he shit posts. Idk it’s just not worth posting that tripe even for dunking on him because he seems self aware. It is interesting that obviously he has decided that doing whatever he can to help set a right wing government in power has a value in the protection they could afford that is greater than negative publicity caused by a ceo being disliked by a large amount of the people. I think his biggest mistake with that is just overvaluing how much twitter, and himself, can really do to win elections. I would have chosen to keep my brand in better shape instead but who knows. Usually it’s the politicians who try to convince the working class that the real issue is the working class and that the rich are the ones who have their back. The actual billionaires seem to prefer to stay away for obvious reasons and pretend to be some sort of humanitarian centrist. Elon chose to plead the case himself, obviously seeing a value in exploiting the MAGA crowd. So now you get the worlds richest man out there pretending he’s some underdog truth prophet and it’s all kinda really dumb. Time will tell but I think unless your name is Donald Trump then it’s a bad bet to stake your future on the MAGA crowd. At some point they will want more extremism out of him than he will be willing to take the financial risk for and he’s just goin to be left living in a country that hates him. This is extremely online thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, sblfilms said: This is extremely online thinking I mean, I don’t really participate in online social hubs or actually read any content here, so it’s more just spit ballin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 So latest news/rumours is that the new CEO patched things up with Google and they started paying their GCP bills again. Good choice. I've been kind of curious how much of their infra leverages GCP and if Google has been threatening to shut those services off more forcefully in recent weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I'm surprised Twitter rents office buildings to begin with. You'd think a company that large would just buy a building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Brick said: I'm surprised Twitter rents office buildings to begin with. You'd think a company that large would just buy a building. Most companies don’t want to be in the real estate business. Leasing makes more sense for the vast majority of businesses (and people!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 6 hours ago, sblfilms said: Most companies don’t want to be in the real estate business. Leasing makes more sense for the vast majority of businesses (and people!). This is one of those discussions I've had so many times in the past. Like unless your business is cars, you should only be leasing them. Unless your business is printing, you should only be leasing them. Unless your business is real estate, you should only be leasing space. I personally know of several companies that are pissing off their employees by pushing very hard to in person work and all of them, coincidentally, own their buildings. They've entered the real estate business and now those office buildings are assets whose value they need to care about. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Leasing cars is stupid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Buying a used car is the best way to go IMO. You at least have an asset—though highly depreciated—in your hands after paying it off. Not really the case at all with a lease. Just a rental basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, SuperSpreader said: Leasing cars is stupid If you're a business it often isn't and that's what I was talking about. Unless you rent cars or are in transportation, I can't see why it would make sense to own vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 29 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Buying a used car is the best way to go IMO. You at least have an asset—though highly depreciated—in your hands after paying it off. Not really the case at all with a lease. Just a rental basically. My last lease buyout was way less than the car was worth, so I bought it out and sold it. Not always the case of course. To me a $400~ lease payment and always having a car less than 2 years old that requires no out of pocket cost outside of the gas / energy I put into it is worth it. Used cars are someone else's problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/23/2023 at 8:16 PM, SuperSpreader said: Leasing cars is stupid My last lease from May 2020 was $218 monthly including tax, and all I had to pay up front was something like $400 in registration fees. Then car prices went stupid so I just bought the lease end out in cash since the ~$11,000 residual was well below what you're going to get on even a used version of the same model year of the same car. On 6/23/2023 at 9:45 PM, Ominous said: Used cars are someone else's problem. Even before the car market went stupid there was something to be said for leasing a car and then buying it out for the residual instead of going and buying a used car since you know for a fact if you've been keeping up with the maintenance and if there's been any major problems with the car. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Twitter should be ready for "hand-to-hand combat" as company preps new ad offering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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