Jason Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: 40 minutes ago, Joe said: Not great. What I'm getting is there's still a LOT of death and destruction to come for the Ukrainians, but I don't see how Russia is taking control of the entire country if this is what they've been able to pull off so far with almost all of their forces deployed. Seems like Putin will consolidate some expansion around territory he already gained in 2014, and play "if I can't have it then nobody can" with the rest like the Nazis were supposed to do to Paris on the way out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Here's some more Russian air defenses, abandoned, collected, and burned by Ukrainians. I genuinely have no idea how this has happened. These things (specifically) are supposed to be great against drones and low level air attacks. And here they are, being burned by Ukrainians. Truly baffling. But I'm glad it's this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 We talked about them having weapons that can be launched from afar. You think they’re just surrounding them, leaving them no where safe to run, bombard them from afar and send in the soldiers to clean up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 minute ago, silentbob said: We talked about them having weapons that can be launched from afar. You think they’re just surrounding them, leaving them no where safe to run, bombard them from afar and send in the soldiers to clean up. That's what they did in Grozny and Aleppo and Donetsk. That's likely what they'll do here. It's siege tactics and Russia has the artillery to accomplish this. They'll chew Kharkiv, Kyiv, and Kherson to bits. Then, God forbid, they may even move west and do the same to L'viv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 3, 2022 Author Share Posted March 3, 2022 Russian soldiers allegedly without any support or contact, just sleeping in this area for four days without orders or resupply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 3, 2022 Author Share Posted March 3, 2022 Jesus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 According to the Ukrainian negotiating team, the second round of discussions with the Russians has ended with no substantive progress. However, he indicated that there appears to be some agreement on establishing humanitarian corridors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GeneticBlueprint Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Komusha said: I never really know what to say in these kind of threads. I don't want to seem like I'm uncaring, I just have nothing to add because I'm not a foreign policy expert. The whole thing is just awful, and I pray for peace everyday. 2 hours ago, sblfilms said: This board would only have posts about fapping and pizza if expert opinion was required 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: That’s not stopped anyone here yet I still love this place though. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 The Ukrainian Navy's largest ship, its flagship the frigate Hetman Sahaidachniy has been scuttled in Mykolaiv harbor. My guess is that the Ukrainians scuttled her to prevent it from being captured by Russia, like the rest of its Navy was in 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 New polling data out of Deutschland: Quote 61% say that weapon deliveries are okay now. This was sub 30% at the beginning of February. 27% believing that giving weapons to Ukraine and the other current measures/sanctions is not enough. 90% are worried what is going to happen to the people in Ukraine. 70% are supporting sanctions even if it means having problems due to missing gas. 70% are worried that other European nations will eventually be attacked. 80% believe NATO is an important peace keeping force in Europe. 65% are okay with the 100 billion extra military budget German post-WWII pacifism is dead and buried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I guess Ukraine is trying to clean up the prejudice issues they have had lately. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 3, 2022 Author Share Posted March 3, 2022 Maybe Belarus is getting involved after all? Not that Belarus can really contribute much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 If Putin is serious about "de-Nazification", perhaps he should start at home. The scum on the right in the picture is Dmitry Utkin, founder of the Wagner Group, a Russian mercenary organization who has been active in Central Africa, Libya, and Syria (where they got their heads handed to them by US forces). Check out his tattoos: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: If Putin is serious about "de-Nazification", perhaps he should start at home. The scum on the right in the picture is Dmitry Utkin, founder of the Wagner Group, a Russian mercenary organization who has been active in Central Africa, Libya, and Syria (where they got their heads handed to them by US forces). Check out his tattoos: Aside from Adolf Eichmann, Reinhard Heydrich, and Joeseph Goebbels this is the most Nazi-looking motherfucker I have ever seen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 20 hours ago, Jason said: Off topic but a friend of mine said he also admonsihed some of the kids behind him for wearing masks at this same event Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Off topic but a friend of mine said he also admonsihed some of the kids behind him for wearing masks at this same event The video is in one of the other threads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 This is incredibly good and I'm glad we're doing it. My guess is that we have been doing this since at least a couple weeks before the invasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Great, now Elon Musk is benefiting from Russian aggression. Can this war get any worse?? 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: For reference is it uncommon for someone of this rank to die in combat from a superpower? What's the highest ranking casualty the US has had in our recent conflicts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Jason said: What I'm getting is there's still a LOT of death and destruction to come for the Ukrainians, but I don't see how Russia is taking control of the entire country if this is what they've been able to pull off so far with almost all of their forces deployed. Seems like Putin will consolidate some expansion around territory he already gained in 2014, and play "if I can't have it then nobody can" with the rest like the Nazis were supposed to do to Paris on the way out. Clearly Putin isn't behaving rationally so we shouldn't expect rational objectives from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, legend said: Great, now Elon Musk is benefiting from Russian aggression. Can this war get any worse?? Musk got laughed out of Russia in the early 2000s when he tried to spend his newly acquired millions to buy a launch on a converted Soviet ICBM to put a small green house lander on Mars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, legend said: Great, now Elon Musk is benefiting from Russian aggression. Can this war get any worse?? ULA has all the engines they need for the last of the Atlas V rockets but Northrop is kind of screwed only having 2 engines in stock for Antares carrying the Cygnus ISS resupply ship. It'll either have to fly on Falcon 9 or wait for Neutron or Vulcan to be ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: New polling data out of Deutschland: German post-WWII pacifism is dead and buried. Where did you find this polling data? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: ULA has all the engines they need for the last of the Atlas V rockets but Northrop is kind of screwed only having 2 engines in stock for Antares carrying the Cygnus ISS resupply ship. It'll either have to fly on Falcon 9 or wait for Neutron or Vulcan to be ready. I'm not sure Cygnus would fit in the Neutron. Vulcan would surely work though. Northrup Grumman's best short term solution is the Falcon 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 3, 2022 Author Share Posted March 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Where did you find this polling data? 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 44 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: For reference is it uncommon for someone of this rank to die in combat from a superpower? What's the highest ranking casualty the US has had in our recent conflicts? A US general was killed during an "insider attack" in Afghanistan, but that's not necessarily considered combat: Harold J. Greene - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: I'm not sure Cygnus would fit in the Neutron. Vulcan would surely work though. Northrup Grumman's best short term solution is the Falcon 9. I've seen speculation that based on the weight class and launch location there might already be a signed launch agreement, but yeah that's years off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: So unless one party intentionally wants a fight there’s no nuclear war. Good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 43 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: A US general was killed during an "insider attack" in Afghanistan, but that's not necessarily considered combat: Harold J. Greene - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Apparently the Russian General that was killed was killed by a sniper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Apparently the Russian General that was killed was killed by a sniper. That's what I've read as well. There's a reason why you never salute a superior when in the field under combat conditions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucoe Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: That's what I've read as well. There's a reason why you never salute a superior when in the field under combat conditions Unless you really, really don't like them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I'd say this qualifies as "collateral damage" from the war: RT America ceases productions and lays off most of its staff | CNN Business WWW.CNN.COM RT America will cease productions and lay off most of its staff, according to a memo from T&R Productions, the production company behind the Russian state-funded network, which CNN obtained. Quote RT America will cease productions and lay off most of its staff, according to a memo from T&R Productions, the production company behind the Russian state-funded network, which CNN obtained. Misha Solodovnikov, the general manager of T&R Productions, told staff in the memo that it will be "ceasing production" at all of its locations "as a result of unforeseen business interruption events." "Unfortunately, we anticipate this layoff will be permanent, meaning that this will result in the permanent separation from employment of most T&R employees at all locations," Solodovnikov wrote. T&R Productions operated offices in New York, Miami, Los Angeles, and Washington, DC. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 minute ago, brucoe said: Unless you really, really don't like them. In that case, you constantly follow them around to salute at every opportunity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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