Fizzzzle Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said: No? There are largely no "loopholes" to exploit. They're exploiting an angry mob and essentially thumbing their nose at literal, actual established law. What can you possibly do to people who don't actually give a fuck about the law itself? I don't think that's necessarily an accurate take. There are loopholes that Trump is begging for people to use. There really isn't anything keeping legislatures in many states from just appointing faithless electors. Only 14 states actually have laws guaranteeing that the winner of the election... wins the election. There isn't *technically* a law that says Trump can't pardon himself, etc. Trump has attempted to exploit the system in ways that people have never tried before, and in doing so has shown that a lot of our laws regarding things like transfer of power aren't really laws at all, just gentlemen's agreements. It seems like his whole presidency has seen something that made you go "... wait, they can do that?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, SaysWho? said: Hold up a damn minute. I put a lot of work for two years posting every update imaginable and going through a list of 7 quadrillion candidates for this to be nuked due to immaturity. Hell no. I was sad your election night thread was merged into this because it would have been an awesome separate thread. I'm just anti-mega threads I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Joe said: Good tweet thread: Tbh I associate this board with the really bad ACA predictions of 2012. Pre ruling: SCOTUS will strike the ACA down based on how bad the hearings went and that's gonna hurt Obama. Post ruling: Upholding the law is going to galvanize conservatives and that's gonna hurt Obama. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Joe said: I was sad your election night thread was merged into this because it would have been an awesome separate thread. I'm just anti-mega threads I guess. I wish it weren't either. 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: I don't think that's necessarily an accurate take. There are loopholes that Trump is begging for people to use. There really isn't anything keeping legislatures in many states from just appointing faithless electors. Only 14 states actually have laws guaranteeing that the winner of the election... wins the election. There isn't *technically* a law that says Trump can't pardon himself, etc. Trump has attempted to exploit the system in ways that people have never tried before, and in doing so has shown that a lot of our laws regarding things like transfer of power aren't really laws at all, just gentlemen's agreements. It seems like his whole presidency has seen something that made you go "... wait, they can do that?" Yes, in the micro sense you're correct. In the macro sense, it's far more confusing. The larger picture here is that the majority of elected republicans are perfectly happy to go along and with full throatedly support a narrative that they absolutely know is 100% bullshit. So laws get put on the books. So what? A republican state can just get rid of those laws if they're inconvenient. Depending on what the supreme court says in regards to the standing of the Texas AG case, apparently any state can sue any other state the second they change their election laws. Oh, California expanded mail in voting? Alabama doesn't like that one but, let's bring it to the supreme court. Trump can't pardon himself? Even if that shit was on the books and he did it, who the fuck is going to stop him? There are countless examples from the last four years of things that were actually on the books that got brushed aside and nothing happened at all. We've all known this on all levels for a while. What's on the books doesn't matter for shit if the people that wield the hammer sit idly by. Unless you can convince those that hold the power to actually use it when it needs to be used, those are words on paper. Republicans largely hold the power. People keep saying the reason this didn't work is because it wasn't close this time. That's bullshit. The reason it didn't work is because the people that hold the power fucking loathe Trump behind closed doors and would rather be done with him but will happily keep his voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 32 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said: No? There are largely no "loopholes" to exploit. They're exploiting an angry mob and essentially thumbing their nose at literal, actual established law. What can you possibly do to people who don't actually give a fuck about the law itself? Laws with no punishment associated with them are pointless. Punishments that require the cooperation of the Executive to punish itself are pointless. Here's a store. We work on the honor system. Just pay for whatever you take before you leave. However, we won't chase you down if you don't pay. Like, sure, that'll work out mostly fine for the first few days, but the second Trump comes in, grabs all the steaks and laughs at anyone that paid is the second everything else falls apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Hold up a damn minute. I put a lot of work for two years posting every update imaginable and going through a list of 7 quadrillion candidates for this to be nuked due to immaturity. Hell no. 23 minutes ago, Joe said: I was sad your election night thread was merged into this because it would have been an awesome separate thread. I'm just anti-mega threads I guess. Yup, the only thing that should be nuked is the dumbass that merged the threads. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jason said: I wonder how much contact he's had with Ginni Thomas as of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Yup, the only thing that should be nuked is the dumbass that merged the threads. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I wonder how much contact he's had with Ginni Thomas as of late. More than Clarence, amirite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe said: More than Clarence, amirite? They're all three hideous monsters on the outside and inside. Ew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ricofoley Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Biden cabinet picks face GOP hurdles WWW.AXIOS.COM The foot-dragging could prevent Biden from having key team members in place on Day 1. They're gonna use the pretext that the election is still in dispute as an excuse to block Biden's cabinet appointments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 gotta keep bringing back our favorites 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 i didn't see this development coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: i didn't see this development coming I will not be surprised at all if some MAGA chuds end up assassinating a prominent (anti-Trump) politician or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Black farmers, civil rights advocates seething over Vilsack pick - POLITICO WWW.POLITICO.COM Progressives and groups representing farmers of color are extremely disappointed that Biden didn’t opt for new leadership at the sprawling department. Democratic opposition mounts to granting waiver for retired Gen. Lloyd Austin to lead Pentagon WWW.AXIOS.COM Austin hasn't been retired from the military for the requisite seven years. At this rate, I should just toss my hat into the ring. U could probably get Commerce! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Black farmers, civil rights advocates seething over Vilsack pick - POLITICO WWW.POLITICO.COM Progressives and groups representing farmers of color are extremely disappointed that Biden didn’t opt for new leadership at the sprawling department. Democratic opposition mounts to granting waiver for retired Gen. Lloyd Austin to lead Pentagon WWW.AXIOS.COM Austin hasn't been retired from the military for the requisite seven years. At this rate, I should just toss my hat into the ring. U could probably get Commerce! My bold plan is the house rule that the money you typically pay to the bank instead just goes to the center of the board, and when you land on Free Parking, you get it all. I think I have a chance with this kind of vision! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 49 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: My bold plan is the house rule that the money you typically pay to the bank instead just goes to the center of the board, and when you land on Free Parking, you get it all. I think I have a chance with this kind of vision! I know you're just doin a goof, but this shit makes monopoly take for-ev-er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I know you're just doin a goof, but this shit makes monopoly take for-ev-er Nobody should play Monopoly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Nobody should play Monopoly You'll get no disagreement from me there but tell that to my boomer parents, only been trying to get them to play better games for years now. Even catan would be an improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Nobody should play Monopoly Monopoly wasn't meant to be fun, it was meant as a lesson in why monopolies are bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Jason said: Monopoly wasn't meant to be fun, it was meant as a lesson in why capitalism is bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Monopoly wasn't meant to be fun, it was meant as a lesson in why monopolies are bad. The Landlord’s Game was supposed to do that, the variant that became Monopoly was supposed to demonstrate why being the one holding a monopoly was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I've seen games of Monopoly ruin relationships - so entertaining, best game ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 these people simply can't help themselves but get into jobs they have no business in. A domestic post for former UN ambassador and national security advisor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Firewithin Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 lol even he says out loud is a pardon fishing job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, PaladinSolo said: In the modern GOP simply stating an obvious fact is considered brave and also possibly disqualifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Sasse getting Sassy, wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe said: Sasse getting Sassy, wow. Don't worry, Sasse will ultimately Flake. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Ohio AG Dave Yost files brief criticizing Texas’ lawsuit challenging Biden win WWW.CLEVELAND.COM Attorney General Dave Yost on Thursday filed a legal brief with the U.S. Supreme Court opposing a Texas lawsuit seeking to effectively delay the Electoral College from voting Joe Biden the next U.S... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 all these states basically telling the SC to tell these clowns to fuck off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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