Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, stepee said: I don’t want the rebels to build their own death star idk. Not only do you want the Rebels to build their own Death Star, you want them to build Starkiller Base. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: Not only do you want the Rebels to build their own Death Star, you want them to build Starkiller Base. The Rebels won because Palpatine got complacent. Our Republicans are a party full of Admiral Thrawns. Ain't shit happening without a Starkiller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 In fact, you want an entire fleet of Xyston-class Star Destroyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Ok, nerds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, SFLUFAN said: In fact, you want an entire fleet of Xyston-class Star Destroyers. Eww, that's the name they chose for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, CitizenVectron said: Eww, that's the name they chose for them? Sounds like an STD in the Star Wars universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: That Biden is EXACTLY the type of character you need to go toe-to-toe with Trumpian types. Liberals need to learn that sometimes you gotta play the game using the "Chicago Rules". Why do you think Avenatti got as much traction as he did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, Jason said: Why do you think Avenatti got as much traction as he did? #Basta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: Fuck Bernie and Warren, I’d vote for THAT Biden and so would all of America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: “long weird knife” kills me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 The best part about that video is he made all that shit up: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1987/09/22/biden-academic-claims-inaccurate/932eaeed-9071-47a1-aeac-c94a51b668e1/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Jose said: The best part about that video is he made all that shit up: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1987/09/22/biden-academic-claims-inaccurate/932eaeed-9071-47a1-aeac-c94a51b668e1/ Including his current hairline apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Something I've loved about Canada in the last few years is the acceptance that we've become an urban nation, and that politics has adjusted to it. Perhaps this is the reason why right-wing populism has failed here nationally compared to other western nations. Unfortunately the United States has institutional roadblocks to prevent this shift, such as a geography-based Senate. I don't know if the US will ever truly shift into an urban-nation mindset (politically) even though it clearly already is an urban nation. Looking up some rough stats from the last few years: 82% of Canadians live in urban areas 80% of Americans live in urban areas So basically the same. And both countries have relatively high immigrant and visible minority populations: Visible minorities: Canada: 23% USA: 38% Immigrant population: Canada: 22% USA: 14% But the big difference is that Canada only has one elected house, which is based on population distribution, and the US has two, one of which is based on geography. I know that it was designed that way for a reason (to protect small states, yada yada...) but it was a death-sentence once the country grew enough to birth megalopolises that contain the majority of its population. As someone pointed out in the last few days, the precedent set by the current impeachment trial is that a President is completely above the law (and constitution!) as long as they have the loyalty of 34 Senators, which could theoretically be elected by as little as 7-16% of the US population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: They do realize Ex-Mayor is trying to win an election in Iowa next week, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadatog Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Are there no cities in Iowa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Chadatog said: Are there no cities in Iowa? There's only Slipknot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Looks like we are only getting two more Iowa polls from now until Tuesday. While I would peg Bernie as the favorite, the race is wide open right now. There are like 5 different candidates that could conceivably win. Fun times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 You know, it strikes me that caucuses could be entirely replaced by ranked-ballot voting. You could get rid of the entire stupid thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: You know, it strikes me that caucuses could be entirely replaced by ranked-ballot voting. You could get rid of the entire stupid thing. It's really sad that so many fundamental things are wrong with our so called democracy and to one is talking about it outside of the democratic desire to abolish the electoral college. Like that's a problem, but there's so much more, and it's pretty silent from anyone leading the democratic party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: You know, it strikes me that caucuses could be entirely replaced by ranked-ballot voting. You could get rid of the entire stupid thing. Technically, caucusing IS ranked choice voting. So in that respect, it's better than a straight FPTP primary. But yeah, it absolutely should be a ranked choice primary all on the same day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, CayceG said: Technically, caucusing IS ranked choice voting. So in that respect, it's better than a straight FPTP primary. But yeah, it absolutely should be a ranked choice primary all on the same day. Also just hold the entire leadership primary at the same time. Allow online voting from all members on a ranked ballot, and then you can calculate the winner instantly. Having a campaign for months and months in each state is just dumb. Yeah, it sucks that only larger places will get the most attention. But that would suck less than rural goobers getting all of the initial say in "momentum." More people living in a place is exactly why that place should be more important than a small place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Yang Gang getting on the Bernie Bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 If sanders wins Iowa does that pretty much seal the nomination in his favor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: If sanders wins Iowa does that pretty much seal the nomination in his favor? No, because there are 49 other states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, CayceG said: No, because there are 49 other states. but I mean with him leading in the polls as it is, a clear win in Iowa should pretty much make him unstoppable no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: but I mean with him leading in the polls as it is, a clear win in Iowa should pretty much make him unstoppable no? Wellllll, lots of if's here, so I'll try to break it down the best my punk ass can: No one is clearly leading right now, and with the kind of ranked choice voting, we could very well see people overperform, underperform, etc. If one of the single digit candidates overperforms, you could see that help them in New Hampshire. If Bernie wins Iowa, they're not going to make it easy for him in New Hampshire. Right now, it's better not to get super aggressive so you can siphon another candidate's supporters in second round voting, and you don't want to turn them off. In primaries, there's no such reason, best I can see, to not get more aggressive and attack another candidate. If he wins Iowa and NH, he still has to consolidate the vote of African-American Democrats in South Carolina (I don't know if many of them are strongly for someone like Biden or if their preference would change based on the first two states). If there's one thing I've learned from my black friends, it's that many of them are very strategic with their votes. A girl I worked with, who's big on racial justice, was thrilled that I was voting Andrew Gillum (African-American progressive Democrat) in the Florida Democratic gubernatorial primaries in 2018, yet she wasn't voting for him because she felt another candidate, Levine, had the best chance of winning in the general election. In 08, many were for Hillary until they saw Obama win in a white state like Iowa, and then realized he could win nationwide. With Sanders, I really don't know how it would break. If he wins the first three states, it'd be an amazing sweep, but I also wonder how the party members will react and if they will try to do something to stop him as Republicans tried with Trump. It could get messy, though my gut feeling right now is it would light even more of a fire under Sanders supporters to vote in a way that other candidates' supporters may not. But this is uncharted territory; my hope is that it might get messy, but they let it play out if he's winning. First, he has to win Iowa, and it's really competitive. I have no idea who's actually going to win, only an idea of which four or five I wouldn't be surprised to see win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 If Warren finishes below 15% and Buttigeig finishes above 15%, then Sanders carries Iowa easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 24 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: If Warren finishes below 15% and Buttigeig finishes above 15%, then Sanders carries Iowa easily. It's 15% on a precinct by precinct basis Luckily for Bernie, Joe doesn't have the AA vote locked up like Hillary did 4 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Is Bernie a lock if he wins Iowa, NH, and SC, or are we expecting none of it to matter once Super Tuesday hits? Predictions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 If Sanders wins SC, it's a whole nother ballgame. DEFCON 1 from the establishment. Just winning IA and NH but not SC protracts the primary, and end up with puddin brain Joe as the nominee in all likelihood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Bernie is winning every state. This is the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/29/2020 at 2:42 PM, SFLUFAN said: Not only do you want the Rebels to build their own Death Star, you want them to build Starkiller Base. RIP Ilum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 3 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Yang Gang getting on the Bernie Bus. It’s a fake-out. Prepping for max effect when Sanders turns around and endorses *Yang*. Either that or he’s angling for VP. Believe what you want; the interwebz will always provide you with the proof you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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