Microsoft Xbox Series X | S OT - Power Your Dreams, update: FTC case unredacted documents leaked, including XSX mid-generation refresh, new gyro/haptic-enabled controller, and next-generation plans for 2028

[best3444]

I haven't touched my Series X is months. Other than Starfield I feel I wasted money on this thing. PlayStation 5 is hands down the greatest console ever made and then I have my Switch for the incredible Nintendo exclusives.

[Spork3245]

From an FTC registration leak

[Kal-El814]

1 minute ago, Spork3245 said:

From an FTC registration leak

There’s a lot in this leak. 

[DarkStar189]

This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller - The Verge

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Microsoft’s mid-cycle Xbox Series X refresh has a whole new shape

You can go through the 21 pages there. Quite the leak!

[Keyser_Soze]

I'm interested to see if the controller thumbsticks are hall effect or not.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

BGS release schedule from July 2020 that was included in the unredacted documents.  This is so very outdated at this point that it's probably only relevant as a curiosity rather than as something to put any stock into.

 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

The next-generation Xbox plans for 2028:

 

 

[Firewithin]

18 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

BGS release schedule from July 2020 that was included in the unredacted documents.  This is so very outdated at this point that it's probably only relevant as a curiosity rather than as something to put any stock into.

 

You had me at Dishonored 3

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

4 minutes ago, Firewithin said:

You had me at Dishonored 3

 

Like I said, this schedule is so very outdated that anything on it that hasn't been released/announced should be considered as "notional" at best.

[Firewithin]

7 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

Like I said, this schedule is so very outdated that anything on it that hasn't been released/announced should be considered as "notional" at best.

hey the fact it even showed up gives me a 1% of hope.  ill take it  

[Kal-El814]

7 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

Like I said, this schedule is so very outdated that anything on it that hasn't been released/announced should be considered as "notional" at best.

 

ES6 in FY2024 was outdated as soon as someone mashed print to PDF

[Keyser_Soze]

11 minutes ago, Firewithin said:

hey the fact it even showed up gives me a 1% of hope.  ill take it  

 

Push it back 3 years since Redfall is on there for 2020

[Spawn_of_Apathy]

This new controller tech; is it going to make it into a refreshed and updated Elite controller? 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

11 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said:

This new controller tech; is it going to make it into a refreshed and updated Elite controller? 

 

No idea - all of this information should be considered as nothing more than notional.

[Brian]

Hey Alexa, where the fuck is Elder Scrolls VI?

 

ESVI confirmed launch title in 2028. 

[Mercury33]

The Phil Spence email where he basically says that the best thing for Nintendo is a future where they’re not making hardware…lol, how’s it working out for them?

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

17 minutes ago, Mercury33 said:

The Phil Spence email where he basically says that the best thing for Nintendo is a future where they’re not making hardware…lol, how’s it working out for them?

 

The actual email exchange:

 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

The reportedly confirmed switch from AMD to ARM for Xbox 2028 is definitely the most interesting aspect of this "leak" to me.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

Internal email communications that discusses potential "Day 1" acquisitions for Game Pass following the Starfield delay and their estimated cost (read from bottom to top).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Oh wow, they sound sooooo committed to Cloud Hybrid Games they've been promising since the Xbone.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

23 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said:

Oh wow, they sound sooooo committed to Cloud Hybrid Games they've been promising since the Xbone.

 

Hence the reason why they've effectively acceded to the CMA's substantial lessening of competition (SLC) concerns about about the impact of the ABK merger on cloud gaming without much of a fight.

[Dodger]

Somebody has got a lot of splainin to do

[silentbob]

 

why can’t this be out for Forza. After playing GT7 on the PS5, the rumble is a game changer and a handy assist too

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

PHIL HATH SPOKEN!

 

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We've seen the conversation around old emails and documents. It is hard to see our team's work shared in this way because so much has changed and there's so much to be excited about right now, and in the future. We will share the real plans when we are ready.

 

The full internal memo he sent:

 

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Team,

 

Today, several documents submitted in the court proceedings related to our proposed acquisition of Activision Blizzard were unintentionally disclosed. I know this is disappointing, even if many of the documents are well over a year old and our plans have evolved.

 

I also know we all take the confidentiality of our plans and our partners’ information very seriously. This leak obviously is not us living up to that expectation. We will learn from what happened and be better going forward. We all put incredible amounts of passion and energy into our work, and this is never how we want that hard work to be shared with the community. That said, there’s so much more to be excited about, and when we’re ready, we’ll share the real plans with our players.

 

In closing, I appreciate all of the work that you pour into Team Xbox to surprise and delight our players. In the days and weeks ahead, let’s stay focused on what we can control: continuing the amazing success of Starfield, the upcoming launch of the incredible and accessible Forza Motorsport, and continuing to build games, services and devices that millions of players can enjoy.

 

Phil

 

 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

2 minutes ago, silentbob said:

 

why can’t this be out for Forza. After playing GT7 on the PS5, the rumble is a game changer and a handy assist too

 

Because I bet that it doesn't actually exist.

[TwinIon]

Given Microsoft's commitment to the PC, I don't really have interest in their consoles, but a digital only console release sounds terrible.

 

4 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

The reportedly confirmed switch from AMD to ARM for Xbox 2028 is definitely the most interesting aspect of this "leak" to me.

I agree. I suspect that MS is just trying to keep their options open and to evaluate all technologies, but a switch to ARM would be huge. I'm really curious what would drive them to do it since they haven't really had the best success with their ARM products, and unlike many companies they haven't been building their own ARM chips. They might be early in developing some, but so far their ARM products have basically been rebranded Qualcomm chips.

 

It's not entirely unprecedented to marry "desktop" graphics architectures with ARM CPUs, as we've seen nVidia put their GPU tech in their Tegra chips (and the Switch) and AMD has licensed RDNA to Samsung, but these haven't exactly been celebrated technology success stories. I suppose the existence of those proves it might not be a herculean task to pair a Navi 5 GPU with an ARM CPU, but still seems like a consideration out of left field.

 

 

It's not super clear to me if "Direct-to-Cloud" on that controller means Wi-Fi or not. In the graphic it's listed on the Xbox consoles specify which version of Wi-Fi they have and the controller does not (even though it does specify the Bluetooth version. It probably does mean Wi-Fi, but maybe not. I definitely hope they steal the haptics from the PS5 controller.

[silentbob]

8 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

Because I bet that it doesn't actually exist.

 

BUT I WANT ONE!!!

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

@cusideabelincoln MS invested $0 in xCloud in FY 2022 and expected to only invest only in the "single digit millions" in FY 2023.

 

 

 

 

[TwinIon]

Wow. So xCloud is the future of all games, but we have no plan and are spending no money on it. That's the kind of planning that optimizes Microsoft.

[cusideabelincoln]

3 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

@cusideabelincoln MS invested $0 in xCloud in FY 2022 and expected to only invest only in the "single digit millions" in FY 2023.

 

 

 

 

 

Holy cow. Explains why the couple of times I did try XCloud via Game Pass I was thoroughly disappointed.

 

I was also jabbing about how they promised the Xbone would offload computational tasks to the cloud. And it's possible they might actually do "Hybrid Cloud" by offloading AI and have ChatGPT derived NPCs.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

3 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said:

I was also jabbing about how they promised the Xbone would offload computational tasks to the cloud. And it's possible they might actually do "Hybrid Cloud" by offloading AI and have ChatGPT derived NPCs.

 

I'd say their level of "commitment" speaks for itself

[Spork3245]

Lemme try to tldr most of this; MSFT would/will buy any successful gaming company “if the opportunity arises”.

[Ominous]

I feel like Xbox is less and less relevant every generation. ARM CPU and cloud computing? Get this shit out of here. 

[cusideabelincoln]

Leaked Microsoft Documents Show the Xbox Series S Might Be More Popular Than You Think - IGN

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A court document from the big Xbox leak reveals that 75 percent of Xbox Series owners own the cheaper, less powerful Series S console.

 

 

If Xbox can only compete on sales at a lower cost, the ARM efficiency would make sense as a possible path for them.

[Ominous]

1 hour ago, cusideabelincoln said:

Leaked Microsoft Documents Show the Xbox Series S Might Be More Popular Than You Think - IGN

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A court document from the big Xbox leak reveals that 75 percent of Xbox Series owners own the cheaper, less powerful Series S console.

 

 

If Xbox can only compete on sales at a lower cost, the ARM efficiency would make sense as a possible path for them.

So Xbox is going to be Nintendo without the cool exclusives?