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14 hours ago, Spork3245 said:

So, is everyone petting the foxes or are you all horrible monsters?

 

I do when I can, except . . . 

 

7 hours ago, SaysWho? said:

I pet the fuck out of them. However, I noticed that sometimes I can't find them afterward; they only pop up sometimes for me.

 

I can only find them some of the time too, when there's more than enough space for there to be a scripted petting action, I have found.

 

Also, I love how different Nioh 1/2, Sekiro, and Ghost of Tsushima all are from one another. Having played all three now (not Nioh 2 yet), each is very Japanese and very samurai/ninja in their ways, but take very different approaches in style, tone, gameplay, combat, etc. It's been an embarrassment of riches lately for me, a big fan of the setting. I can't wait until Nioh 2 hits PC now. I will say that Ghost of Tsushima's combat is the easiest (though still very satisfying) but it's the most open world, etc. so the tradeoff is worth it. Sekiro is only semi-open world and Nioh 1 wasn't open world at all, you had a world map and picked individual levels that were relatively small. Also nice is that while Sekiro takes place in the late 1500's and Nioh takes place in 1601, Ghost of Tsushima takes place in 1274 which lends some differences as well (300+ years is a big gap). This does cause anachronisms pulled in from Sengoku-era (1500's/1600's) understandings of samurai and ninja and pulls them into 1274 Japan (for instance, ninja didn't exist yet), but it doesn't matter with this more folklore-style take.

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This is a great game, and probably the best open-world style game on PS4 that I've played.  While it does have a fairly standard open-world structure, I've found that the side quests and random encounters are more dynamic and fun than in similarly styled games.  I definitely see the Breath of the Wild comparisons - even though it doesn't attempt the same emergent/systemic gameplay, it provides similar feelings of exploration and discovery, and it's incredible what a huge difference it makes to have no HUD and be guided purely by landmarks/wind/animals.  A big part of why I couldn't stand Horizon was the HUD, which I still think is maybe the most intrusive that I've ever seen in a game.  I also can't get enough of the setting - everything is beautiful and the music is fantastic.

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On 5/17/2020 at 3:05 PM, Greatoneshere said:

 

Indeed, between Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, Nioh/Nioh 2, and Ghost of Tsushima, we've been quite blessed for those into period samurai/ninja settings (like myself). After a dearth of good games that are set in that period for years, it's been kind of crazy to get so many good ones at once. 

 

I remember back when myself and others wanted an Assassin's Creed: Japan. Now we really don't need one.

Would've been a perfect console gen if we'd gotten a Nija Gaiden Black remake or a sequal !!

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4 hours ago, HardAct said:

Would've been a perfect console gen if we'd gotten a Nija Gaiden Black remake or a sequal !!

Rumors of a new Ninja Gaiden to be shown tomorrow at Xbox event... But we've had a lot of rumors of a new Ninja Gaiden for years now.

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59 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said:

 

Yeah, when I played Nioh I got heavy Ninja Gaiden vibes combatwise (not wall running and such)

Same here. There's an animation where you decapitate yokai at the end of a combo and it immediately reminded me of NG. Lots of little touches like that.

 

NG is an amazing game to this day so I hope somehow we see some sort of reboot, sequel, whatever that does the first Xbox NG justice.

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12 hours ago, Bloodporne said:

NG is an amazing game to this day so I hope somehow we see some sort of reboot, sequel, whatever that does the first Xbox NG justice.

 

Pretty much impossible without Itagaki. Let's be glad Nioh 1/2 are as good as they are, and that Team Ninja has somehow kept the reputation intact without him.

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Just finished act one... felt it was time to move the story a bit. Loving the game and the story so far. I'm seeing some definite Game of Thrones influences in the story as well.

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Ryuzo= Theon Greyjoy

 

Still plenty of stuff to do in the first area... I don't even have the longbow yet... but the game has really exceeded my expectations so far.

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Ghost of Tsushima, Kurosawa, and the political myth of the samurai (Polygon)

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The samurai as a concept, versus who the samurai actually were, has become so deeply intertwined with Japanese imperialist beliefs that it has become difficult to separate the two. This is where cultural and historical understanding are important when approaching the mythology of the samurai as replicated in the West. Kurosawa’s later body of work — like the color-saturated Ran, which was a Japanese adaptation of King Lear, and Kagemusha, the story of a lower-class criminal impersonating a feudal lord — deeply criticized the samurai and the class system they enforced. While some films were inspired by Western plays, specifically Shakespeare, these works were critical of the samurai and their role in the Sengoku Period. They dismantled the notion of samurai by showing that they were a group of people capable of the same failings as the lower class, and were not bound to arbitrary notions of honor and chivalry.

 

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1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said:

A lot of Japanese unarmed martial arts were developed by the underclass to defend themselves from the Samurai, Karate and Juijitsu in particular. 

That's very much how martial arts developed throughout Asia.

 

As peasants were forbidden from possessing weapons of their own, they had to learn un-armed combat.

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Just now, Emperor Diocletian II said:

That's very much how martial arts developed throughout Asia.

 

As peasants were forbidden from possessing weapons of their own, they had to learn un-armed combat.

Same with the precurssor to Tae Kwon Do in Korea... those high kicks and jump kicks were used to dismount attackers on horseback.

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Just now, Emperor Diocletian II said:

That's EXACTLY how I learned that particular factoid :p

 

(Except it was Tang Soo Do rather than Tae Kwon Do)

I was trying to remember the name... Tae Kwon Do is the modern sport. Tang So Do is it's lethal precursor. In order to survive being outlawed by the Government, a lot of those arts had to be softened up into sport. ESPECIALLY in China and Japan. East Asian countries tended to keep a lot of their more lethal arts alive. The Indonesian martial arts are STILL as deadly as ever.

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Just now, skillzdadirecta said:

I was trying to remember the name... Tae Kwon Do is the modern sport. Tang So Do is it's lethal precursor. In order to survive being outlawed by the Government, a lot of those arts had to be softened up into sport. ESPECIALLY in China and Japan. East Asian countries tended to keep a lot of their more lethal arts alive. The Indonesian martial arts are STILL as deadly as ever.

Right - TKD is very much considered the "competition" variation with TSD being the more "martial" version.  This was something that our instructors drilled into us constantly :p

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6 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said:

Right - TKD is very much considered the "competition" variation with TSD being the more "martial" version.  This was something that our instructors drilled into us constantly :p

Yeah the Okinawan Karate systems tended to be the "harder" more combat oriented ones vs the more sporty versions. Kyokushin Karate is VERY tough and suited more for street fights than competition. Shotokan and Shorin-ryu are pretty bad assed too. I always favored the Japanese martial arts over their chinese counter parts because of the practicality in street fighting situations. 

 

Chuck Norris is a Tang So Do guy I believe. Amongst other arts... that's his base though.

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Oh snap, well done! So that means higher than Horizon Zero Dawn, Days Gone, Bloodborne, The Order, Death Stranding, Dreams, Detroit Become Human this gen, and games like inFAMOUS, Uncharted, and The Last of Us last gen. I'll be damned. And here I was thinking that there was less hype leading up to it than Horizon.

 

Also, what a difference a generation makes.

 

Last gen: Sony games don't sell as well as they should.

This gen: God of War was called God of Legs.

 

EDIT: Some numbers for comparison

 

  • TLOU Part II : 4M in 3 days
  • Spider-Man : 3.3M in 3 days
  • God of War : 3.1M in 3 days
  • Ghost of Tsushima : 2.4M in 3 days
  • Uncharted 4 : 2.7M in 1 week
  • Horizon Zero Dawn : 2.6M in 2 weeks
  • inFamous SS : 1M in 9 days
  • Bloodborne : 1M in 12 days
  • Detroit Become Human : 1M in 2 weeks
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11 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Yeah the Okinawan Karate systems tended to be the "harder" more combat oriented ones vs the more sporty versions. Kyokushin Karate is VERY tough and suited more for street fights than competition. Shotokan and Shorin-ryu are pretty bad assed too. I always favored the Japanese martial arts over their chinese counter parts because of the practicality in street fighting situations. 

 

Chuck Norris is a Tang So Do guy I believe. Amongst other arts... that's his base though.


In all seriousness, none of the traditional Asian martial arts are worth much for street fights. Competition? Sure.

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