Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Is this your way of asking me to donate to your legal defense fund, Jenna? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Is this your way of asking me to donate to your legal defense fund, Jenna? Nah, they will all fall in line no matter what they say about supporting the Mango Mongo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastletonSnob Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Hot take: Jack Smith and Merrick Garland aren't doing enough. Trump is just the tip of the iceberg. We need to go scorched earth on the entire Trump administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Trump says it was 'my decision' to try to overturn 2020 election results | CNN Politics WWW.CNN.COM Former President Donald Trump said in an interview that he received counsel from numerous people shortly after the 2020 election but that it was his decision to push the false claim he won the election and try to overturn the results. Did he just go and Krusty The Clown himself 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Massdriver Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 That CNN headline seems misleading. It seems like he is saying it was his decision to believe that the election was rigged. But it’s hard to tell since he rambles on incoherently throughout the transcript. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Massdriver said: That CNN headline seems misleading. It seems like he is saying it was his decision to believe that the election was rigged. But it’s hard to tell since he rambles on incoherently throughout the transcript. It's not; legal experts say this undercuts his entire defense that he listened to his lawyers. Here, he says this was all on him, his decision, he believed it was over the entire time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: It's not; legal experts say this undercuts his entire defense that he listened to his lawyers. Here, he says this was all on him, his decision, he believed it was over the entire time. But the headline says it was his decision to overturn an election. In the transcript: KRISTEN WELKER: Were you calling the shots, though, Mr. President, ultimately? FMR. PRES. DONALD TRUMP: As to whether or not I believed it was rigged? Oh, sure. KRISTEN WELKER: Okay. FMR. PRES. DONALD TRUMP: It was my decision. But I listened to some people. Some people said that. Like, guys like Bill Barr, who was a stiff, but he wasn’t there at the time. Seems like he was saying that it was his decision on whether or not he believed it was rigged. I’m sure that has legal implications, but that headline seems like click bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: It's not; legal experts say this undercuts his entire defense that he listened to his lawyers. Here, he says this was all on him, his decision, he believed it was over the entire time. The question is whether that admission would be admissable evidence in court to undercut his defense absent already-obtained evidence by the prosecution that supports the admission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The question is whether that admission would be admissable evidence in court to undercut his defensee absent already-obtained evidence by the prosecution that supports the admission. I'm just sharing what NBC is reporting in their Nightly News story where legal experts they say they interviewed say this admission could undercut his entire defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Massdriver said: Seems like he was saying that it was his decision on whether or not he believed it was rigged. I’m sure that has legal implications, but that headline seems like click bait. The transcript makes it seem as plain as day that he directed his own belief that the election was rigged and that's just about as far as we reasonably can go without extrapolation. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The transcript makes it seem as plain as day that he directed his own belief that the election was rigged and that's just about as far as we reasonably can go without extrapolation. Agreed. If that hurts him legally that’s great news. He directed his own belief. Do any of us really ? When I read the transcript I thought very little of that statement. But if he is saying in court that his lawyers directed his belief and all his actions, this is a big contradiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Massdriver said: Agreed. If that hurts him legally that’s great news. He directed his own belief. Do any of us really ? When I read the transcript I thought very little of that statement. But if he is saying in court that his lawyers directed his belief and all his actions, this is a big contradiction. That's exactly the argument being made, yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, Massdriver said: Agreed. If that hurts him legally that’s great news. He directed his own belief. Do any of us really ? When I read the transcript I thought very little of that statement. But if he is saying in court that his lawyers directed his belief and all his actions, this is a big contradiction. It's a contradiction, but I'm willing to bet that it's an irrelevant one for the legal purposes of the cases. It's something said in a television interview, for heaven's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 It would really be great if legal and political pundits stopped LARPing themselves into some Aaron Sorkin / John Grisham legal drama, or stopped edging like they're going to get a Frost / Nixon moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: It would really be great if legal and political pundits stopped LARPing themselves into some Aaron Sorkin / John Grisham legal drama, or stopped edging like they're going to get a Frost / Nixon moment. The Frost/Nixon moment did nothing to Nixon since he was already out of office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 If anything, his attorneys might've coached him to respond to that question in such a narrowly-defined context as to his "beliefs" rather than his "actions" as that would be congruent with his overall First Amendment-based defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: If anything, his attorneys might've coached him to respond to that question in such a narrowly-defined context as to his "beliefs" rather than his "actions" as that would be congruent with his overall First Amendment-based defense. cmon. Like the man actually listens to his lawyers. but still it is a bad defense. It’s even covered in the indictment. His actions are what he’s being prosecuted for not his beliefs. Yeah yeah going to try and taint the jury pool and win the court of public opinion. But anything he says now can be admitted to court as evidence; it’s why good lawyers tell you to shut the fuck up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 28 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: it’s why good lawyers tell you to shut the fuck up. Correct. Which is why he wasn't coached by his lawyers, or he has shitty lawyers. And he had Rudy Giuliani, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Imagine still holding interviews at this point knowing that addle brained moron can’t even keep his stories straight. He straight up did a Rick James in the Megyn Kelly interview. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Trump Privately Frets He Could Be Headed to Prison WWW.ROLLINGSTONE.COM Donald Trump has a burning question for his confidants and attorneys: Would he have to him wear “one of those jumpsuits” in prison? 🥰 1 3 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I sincerely hope the stress of this entire ordeal kills him 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I sincerely hope the stress of this entire ordeal kills him I hope his fucking heart explodes on live tv and he has a Ralph Wiggum level stupid saying as he croaks 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 21, 2023 Author Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 21 hours ago, Jason said: It’s so funny that he represents apex masculinity to so many MAGAts, when he is such a vain, bitchy, little gossip. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: It’s so funny that he represents apex masculinity to so many MAGAts, when he is such a vain, bitchy, little gossip. Donald Trump King/Queen of “The Karen’s” He even shares the same hair style with them and always wants to complain about the managers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 The only suitable job for Trump would be a NY society gossip columnist, where he gets to complain about actresses gaining weight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 5 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: It’s so funny that he represents apex masculinity to so many MAGAts, when he is such a vain, bitchy, little gossip. Masculinity is vanity though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 11:51 PM, Jason said: My favorite image from 2020 was him coming back from the Tulsa rally extremely sad that he had a low turnout, and you can clearly see bronzer smeared on the collar of his shirt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 “No one loves the troops more than Trump does.” Reality: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 No big deal, just Trump saying Milley should be put to death: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 hours ago, MarSolo said: No big deal, just Trump saying Milley should be put to death: Is Milley a witness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 hours ago, MarSolo said: No big deal, just Trump saying Milley should be put to death: I feel like threatening a general like this is the sort of thing that gets a pleb a visit from the feds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 3 hours ago, MarSolo said: No big deal, just Trump saying Milley should be put to death: So much of the work of the Executive Branch is performed through appointments to Executive agencies. So much so that one could easily argue that choosing good appointments is 30 or 40% of doing the job well. In which case, Mr. Hires Only The Best People has proven himself unqualified for the job based solely on the fact that three quarters of those he appointed were either fired in disgrace, resigned in protest, have been criminaly indicted or convicted, and/or are currently embroiled in Twitter fueds with Trump to this day. Imagine a hiring manager at an office complaining every day that nothing gets done because everyone working there is incompetent. Sooner or later, someone's probably going to start asking who is hiring all the dinguses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Trump was jealous of Hunter's current prohibition on owning firearms, so he decided to join the fray: Trump Tells Gun Store He’d Like to Buy a Glock, Raising Legal Questions - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM Officials have increasingly voiced concerns about threats of violence related to the former president’s trials, as he faces charges that would make it illegal for a store to sell him a firearm. TL;DR: People facing felony indictment cannot own or purchase/transfer firearms. Question 21.C from the background check form: Quote Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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