Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 South Florida records ocean temperature of over 101 degrees Fahrenheit, potentially a record WWW.CNBC.COM A data collecting buoy in Florida recorded an ocean temperature of over 101 degrees Fahrenheit on Monday. Quote A buoy in Manatee Bay, Florida, showed an ocean temperature reading of over 101 degrees Fahrenheit on Monday night, the latest sign of record heat in the coastal waters. The National Data Buoy Center, a division of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, recorded the temperature about five feet below the surface off South Florida’s East Coast at 10 p.m. ET. It’s a critically hot reading for an ocean, and is especially concerning for the coral reefs in the area, which typically thrive at temperatures between 73 and 84 degrees, according to NOAA. And while it may be an all-time high, the comparison to other top readings is tricky because of how it was recorded. The existing record for hottest ocean surface temperature is reportedly 99.7, which was reached in Kuwait Bay in the Persian Gulf. Jeff Berardelli, Florida WFLA News Channel 8′s chief meteorologist and climate specialist, said it’s unclear if the latest reading will be counted as a world record. “These buoys that are inside Florida Bay — so that’s to the north of the Florida Keys and to the South Florida peninsula — they’re all in very shallow, murky, dark water,” Berardelli told CNBC. “Because it’s murky, and because it’s contaminated with sediment, the water temperatures are reflective of the fact that darker surfaces absorb more heat.” Relatedly... "100% coral mortality" found in coral reef restoration site off Florida as ocean temperatures soar WWW.CBSNEWS.COM Almost every single coral in a coral reef nursery in the Florida Keys has died as NOAA raises its coral bleaching warning system to the highest level possible for the area. Quote Coral reefs play a vital role in the overall health of the planet. And off the coast of Florida, they're in jeopardy, as the relentless heat continues. The Coral Restoration Foundation said in one coral reef restoration site off the state's coast, the extreme temperatures have proved deadly. "On July 20th, CRF teams visited Sombrero Reef, a restoration site we've been working at for over a decade. What we found was unimaginable — 100% coral mortality," said Phanor Montoya-Mayoa, a restoration program manager at the foundation who has a doctorate in biology. "We have also lost almost all the corals in the Looe Key Nursery in the Lower Keys." Sombrero Reef is a protected area off the Florida Keys, just past Marathon. It's a popular site for snorkelers and divers as the area is home to star corals that are considered endangered under the Endangered Species Act. The Coral Restoration Foundation has been on a mission to restore the reef, spending years planting and protecting various corals. But extreme heat is deadly for the ocean animals. When ocean temperatures become too warm, the algae that normally live within the coral's tissues come out, causing the animals to turn white. This is known as coral bleaching. While bleaching events aren't necessarily 100% fatal for reefs, they do place them under significantly more stress and make them vulnerable, especially to future bleaching events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer.tv Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 It’s quite fascinating watching the world actually die around us and literally having no way of stopping it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 A report today indicated that the gulf stream could destabilize as early as 2025, though it's not likely to until at least 2050. But if it does, you're looking at potentially millions and millions of deaths as rain patterns and ocean/atmospheric currents completely change in the northern hemisphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 This is one of those situations (climate balance) where things can get worse slowly for a while, and then get very bad very quickly once certain tipping points are reached, particularly in the ocean ecosystems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: A report today indicated that the gulf stream could destabilize as early as 2025, though it's not likely to until at least 2050. But if it does, you're looking at potentially millions and millions of deaths as rain patterns and ocean/atmospheric currents completely change in the northern hemisphere. The report in question: Gulf stream could collapse as early as 2025, study suggests | Climate crisis | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM A collapse would bring catastrophic climate impacts but scientists disagree over the new analysis Quote The Gulf Stream system could collapse as soon as 2025, a new study suggests. The shutting down of the vital ocean currents, called the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (Amoc) by scientists, would bring catastrophic climate impacts. Amoc was already known to be at its weakest in 1,600 years owing to global heating and researchers spotted warning signs of a tipping point in 2021. The new analysis estimates a timescale for the collapse of between 2025 and 2095, with a central estimate of 2050, if global carbon emissions are not reduced. Evidence from past collapses indicate changes of temperature of 10C in a few decades, although these occurred during ice ages. Other scientists said the assumptions about how a tipping point would play out and uncertainties in the underlying data are too large for a reliable estimate of the timing of the tipping point. But all said the prospect of an Amoc collapse was extremely concerning and should spur rapid cuts in carbon emissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 When do we start beheading those holding back progress on healing the planet? When is enough enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 The Mediterranean Basin is either burning or at high risk of doing so: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 It definitely feels hopeless. So many events are happening that are screaming for drastic change yet we do so little about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The Mediterranean Basin is either burning or at high risk of doing so: Rhodes was like 55% on fire last I checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 That is kinda frightening. Yea, this world is drastically changing and honestly what can we really do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer.tv Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Brian said: It definitely feels hopeless. So many events are happening that are screaming for drastic change yet we do so little about it. I’m not close to conspiratorial, but recently the UK has effectively abandoned its green pledge and you vaguely wonder if the political consensus is there is nothing that can now be done, so why bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 ItS sUmMeR 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, best3444 said: That is kinda frightening. Yea, this world is drastically changing and honestly what can we really do? Well...we can stop it. But that would require reducing corporate profits. Hell, consumers could do nothing and we could still solve this with proper requirements of large industry. Things would cost more, but we could do it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, gamer.tv said: I’m not close to conspiratorial, but recently the UK has effectively abandoned its green pledge and you vaguely wonder if the political consensus is there is nothing that can now be done, so why bother. I feel like I used to see more articles about how we are making progress on climate change and avoided the worst outcome. There is more to do but we are making a difference and governments have bought in. Now my feed is full of doomsday and green technologies suck. It’s depressing for sure especially since I have a young daughter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fizzzzle Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The Mediterranean Basin is either burning or at high risk of doing so: Then, when the gulf stream collapses, Europe will turn into East Canada 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 I can see someone from PETA trying to rescue a live lobster from a fancy restaurant, rushing it to the “safety” of the ocean water off the coast. The lobster is drop into the ocean only to see it boil alive in front of them. Falling to their knees crying, the newly cooked lobster smell overcomes their senses, they devours it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Pure hedonism for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Can we please just use nuclear everywhere? It'd be a start... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, legend said: Can we please just use nuclear everywhere? It'd be a start... Instead the Hulk bullied New York State into shutting down Indian Point claiming he's an environmentalist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Jason said: Instead the Hulk bullied New York State into shutting down Indian Point claiming he's an environmentalist. The negative environmentalist attitude toward nuclear is infuriating. I must leave room for being wrong, because I'm not an expert on nuclear technology, but the "environmentalist" arguments against nuclear that I've seen are just bad arguments, so I'm inclined to reject their rejection 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 The environmental movement did not kill nuclear in the 70s. Coal did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, CayceG said: The environmental movement did not kill nuclear in the 70s. Coal did. The big train companies nearly killed coal because they didn’t want to invest in one short line in Wyoming to get to low sulfur coal after the EPA started regulating sulfur emissions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 4:47 PM, Brick said: When do we start beheading those holding back progress on healing the planet? When is enough enough? Who are you going to behead? This can’t be fixed unless China/India/Russia/etc also want to tackle it, and they just aren’t. For every ton the western world stops producing, they’ll produce 10 more, because they need the economic growth. pretending this is something that can be legislated just doesn’t hold water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 We need a Global Climate Stalin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brick Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/27/2023 at 11:35 AM, BloodyHell said: Who are you going to behead? This can’t be fixed unless China/India/Russia/etc also want to tackle it, and they just aren’t. For every ton the western world stops producing, they’ll produce 10 more, because they need the economic growth. pretending this is something that can be legislated just doesn’t hold water. Who says I didn't count them in it? To the guillotine with them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Fun and games but people need to eat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Why'd you wait so long? It's been proven since the 70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 11 hours ago, Brick said: Who says I didn't count them in it? To the guillotine with them too. So world war to prevent global warming? its a ridiculous situation all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: So world war to prevent global warming? its a ridiculous situation all around. World War because of Global warming is gonna be sooooo much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 21 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: World War because of Global warming is gonna be sooooo much better. So, the left wing position is what, then? The subjugation of every country who won’t fall in line with their climate goals? what’s the solution? It’s not recycling and solar in a few first world countries, that’s for sure. Theres not enough minerals to realize the electric car push with current battery technology. India and China especially are increasing output of greenhouse gases at unprecedented rates. im not pretending it’s not a problem, but world war to prevent world war seems a bit backwards. Its a problem with no solution, because no upcoming nation is going to cripple its growth because the superpowers of Europe and America say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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