Brick Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 No one said anything about a World War until you brought it up. Stop being obtuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 If the US has to flex military might to prevent environmental degradation so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Brick said: No one said anything about a World War until you brought it up. Stop being obtuse. No no the only options are runaway climate change and world war to prevent/stop climate change (???????) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 I just traveled to the gulf side of Florida’s penis to hit the beach for a couple days before doing Disney with the family. Hopefully I don’t boil to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 On 7/30/2023 at 2:10 PM, Brick said: No one said anything about a World War until you brought it up. Stop being obtuse. When someone says to kill everyone who doesn’t support green policies, that means they want war. That’s what I was responding too, so yes, someone did. So does the USA get to build a superpower on mass pollution and environmental destruction, then get to tell others they can’t have the same? its not being obtuse to say that other nations are not going to willingly cripple economic growth to please a few western nations. there is no other way to force India/China (used as an example because they are the largest pollution creating economies) to meet climate goals. the world can’t be saved by North America and Europe going green (not that it means we shouldn’t). So if you have ANY solution better than war, I’d love to hear it. Asking nicely certainly isn’t an option. and we still haven’t studied the effects of micro plastics in oceans and shared water sources, and the effects that will begin having on life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: the world can’t be saved by North America and Europe going green (not that it means we shouldn’t). So if you have ANY solution better than war, I’d love to hear it. Asking nicely certainly isn’t an option. Uh...carrots and sticks, like most economic/trade regulations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Uh...carrots and sticks, like most economic/trade regulations? Lol like what? Refusing the manufactured goods that we desperately need and can’t produce on our own at reasonable costs? the answer to climate change needs to be technology to clean the atmosphere. While I have zero idea how possible that is, this pie in the sky zero emissions, end oil dependence thing is completely unrealistic, and most countries aren’t even trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Sitting in the beach and I think I’m going to cool down in the water but I get in and it’s hotter than the air around me lol. I suppose that’s normal here but I don’t get the appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 To be honest, if climate change causes such dramatic shifts that countries are scrambling for resources, that could start another world war, or at least smaller wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: To be honest, if climate change causes such dramatic shifts that countries are scrambling for resources, that could start another world war, or at least smaller wars. It's already going to start sooner rather than later. There are tensions between Egypt and Ethiopia over the Nile as well as high tension between all the -stans in Central Asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 2 hours ago, marioandsonic said: To be honest, if climate change causes such dramatic shifts that countries are scrambling for resources, that could start another world war, or at least smaller wars. waterknife.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Hey, so it turns out that sulfur pollution from ships has maybe been accidentally geoengineering the planet and cancelling out the greenhouse effect this whole time, and the massive increase in ocean temperatures this year may be due to said sulfur pollution now being banned... Just a moment... WWW.SCIENCE.ORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Ricofoley said: Hey, so it turns out that sulfur pollution from ships has maybe been accidentally geoengineering the planet and cancelling out the greenhouse effect this whole time, and the massive increase in ocean temperatures this year may be due to said sulfur pollution now being banned... Just a moment... WWW.SCIENCE.ORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Ricofoley said: Hey, so it turns out that sulfur pollution from ships has maybe been accidentally geoengineering the planet and cancelling out the greenhouse effect this whole time, and the massive increase in ocean temperatures this year may be due to said sulfur pollution now being banned... Just a moment... WWW.SCIENCE.ORG lol that as soon as the “geoengineering” stopped it immediately caused increases in temperatures is exactly what has been predicted to happen if we attempted large scale geoengineering (on purpose) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 30 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: lol that as soon as the “geoengineering” stopped it immediately caused increases in temperatures is exactly what has been predicted to happen if we attempted large scale geoengineering (on purpose) I mean... that's a good thing. It proves that we can do it with intention. Creating clouds isn't that hard and there are ways to do it effectively without pumping sulfuric acid into the air. It's just a band aid solution, but it is an entirely doable solution. And we now have proof that it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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