SaysWho? Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 FiveThirtyEight Founder Nate Silver Leaving ABC News as Disney Layoffs Continue VARIETY.COM ABC News plans to hold onto the FiveThirtyEight brand despite founder Nate Silver's exit. ” Silver sent a message to his team in a company Slack channel warning that the Disney layoffs would impact FiveThirtyEight, and that Silver is not planning to return after his contract ends. Silver said in a tweet, “Disney layoffs have substantially impacted FiveThirtyEight. I am sad and disappointed to a degree that’s kind of hard to express right now. We’ve been at Disney almost 10 years. My contract is up soon and I expect that I’ll be leaving at the end of it.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Whaat that's poop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 What's funny is that Disney owns the 538 brand and Nate owns the models, in case you needed more proof that he's an idiot who thinks he's smart. 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin King Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Meh... I feel like brands can be replaced. I'd take the models and his name elsewhere and build it all up again. Curious to see where he lands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 He's a decent statistician who thinks his knowledge in one field makes him and expert in everything, and therefore makes him a goober. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 49 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: FiveThirtyEight Founder Nate Silver Leaving ABC News as Disney Layoffs Continue VARIETY.COM ABC News plans to hold onto the FiveThirtyEight brand despite founder Nate Silver's exit. ” Silver sent a message to his team in a company Slack channel warning that the Disney layoffs would impact FiveThirtyEight, and that Silver is not planning to return after his contract ends. ... This is the face of a man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 minute ago, SuperSpreader said: This is the face of a man And a provider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, Gavin King said: Meh... I feel like brands can be replaced. I'd take the models and his name elsewhere and build it all up again. Curious to see where he lands. He got a rep off a big splash that he hasn't replicated and has become increasingly cranky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: This is the face of a man lmao right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin King Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Agree on that. Behind on the podcast, but he has gotten increasingly grumpy over recent years. I actually think he might get out of politics for a bit. He has his money, he'll probably just go play poker in Vegas for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Anathema- said: What's funny is that Disney owns the 538 brand and Nate owns the models, in case you needed more proof that he's an idiot who thinks he's smart. What exactly do you think happens when you sell a business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Of what utility is the 538 brand without the assets (the models) that underpinned it? The audience that 538 caters to is almost exclusively there for the data analysis, not the brand in and of itself. They're going to follow Silver, not stay with the Silver-less 538 brand. Disney has retained an effectively useless shell. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 31 minutes ago, sblfilms said: What exactly do you think happens when you sell a business? He didn't sell the brand when he worked for the times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 21 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Of what utility is the 538 brand without the underlying assets (the models) that underpinned it? Who cares about utility if only one of the two things has value? Nobody's following Nate Silver anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Who cares about utility if only one of the two things has value? Nobody's following Nate Silver anywhere. If given the choice between retaining the brand or the data models as was the situation with the initial Disney acquisition, the relatively safer bet is the retention of the data models from the standpoint of which one has the greater potential for future value generation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 42 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Disney has retained an effectively useless shell. But enough about their live-action reboots 2 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 44 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: If given the choice between retaining the brand or the data models as was the situation with the initial Disney acquisition, the relatively safer bet is the retention of the data models from the standpoint of which one has the greater potential for future value generation. I'm sure Nate wagered the same thing before he tanked his personal brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 He had a great run in 2016 but during the pandemic spiraled into a COVID truther. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Anathema- said: He didn't sell the brand when he worked for the times. Correct. So, again, what do you think happens when you *sell* a business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Basically 538 is the name of the sandwich but the guy who made the sandwich took the ingredients with him. Wherever he goes he can make the sandwich everyone loves with a different name. But the people who kept the name of the sandwich can't use the same ingredients. Will people come for the mediocre sandwich with the same name or the new sandwich with the ingredients people enjoy? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 44 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Basically 538 is the name of the sandwich but the guy who made the sandwich took the ingredients with him. Wherever he goes he can make the sandwich everyone loves with a different name. But the people who kept the name of the sandwich can't use the same ingredients. Will people come for the mediocre sandwich with the same name or the new sandwich with the ingredients people enjoy? Even more, what if the name of the sandwich was effectively “Fancy Sandwhich by Mr. Sandwhich”, and Mr. Sandwhich announces he is making a whole new Sandwich somewhere else that tastes just as good as the original Fancy Sandwhich. There is no doubt that Silver is as much a part of the brand value of 538 and 538 is itself. Pretty sure he can roll out some new venture in the future while keeping his name in the public conscience with media appearances and his social media activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 49 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Basically 538 is the name of the sandwich but the guy who made the sandwich took the ingredients with him. Wherever he goes he can make the sandwich everyone loves with a different name. But the people who kept the name of the sandwich can't use the same ingredients. Will people come for the mediocre sandwich with the same name or the new sandwich with the ingredients people enjoy? Neither they order Hawaiian pizza. Spoiler 4 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 6 hours ago, Gavin King said: Meh... I feel like brands can be replaced. I'd take the models and his name elsewhere and build it all up again. Curious to see where he lands. Silver should lobby to make Puerto Rico the 51st state and then start a new website called 544.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Silver should lobby to make Puerto Rico the 51st state and then start a new website called 544.com Nah, 528 would be better. Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 8 hours ago, sblfilms said: Correct. So, again, what do you think happens when you *sell* a business? I really don't understand what you're getting at here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Anathema- said: I really don't understand what you're getting at here. You said he is and idiot who thinks he is smart because he sold the brand but retained some of his IP. This is the most normal of transactions when a founder sells their business. I just don’t know why you think that was dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Who gives a shit about the 538 brand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, Joe said: Who gives a shit about the 538 brand? The people who bought it, I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 imagine leaving home without your 538 hat, hoodie, and fanny pack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 If Disney is planning on shutting down 538. Who knows what will happen with the brand. They may be willing to sell it back to Nate on the cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, AbsolutSurgen said: If Disney is planning on shutting down 538. Who knows what will happen with the brand. They may be willing to sell it back to Nate on the cheap. He’s going to buy the brand back and redirect the page to a site that sells hot sauce. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, stepee said: He’s going to buy the brand back and redirect the page to a site that sells hot sauce. It always comes back to food here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, stepee said: He’s going to buy the brand back and redirect the page to a site that sells hot sauce. And $60 360 games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted April 26, 2023 Author Share Posted April 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, stepee said: He’s going to buy the brand back and redirect the page to a site that sells hot sauce. omg what if he buys it but it's like some BadCartridge thing where this happens: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: It always comes back to food here. And I'm REALLY getting sick and tired of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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