AbsolutSurgen Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Liberals and Conservatives Are Both Susceptible to Fake News, but for Different Reasons BLOGS.SCIENTIFICAMERICAN.COM New research suggests both liberals and conservatives are motivated to believe fake news, and dismiss real news that contradicts their ideologies Quote The researchers found some asymmetries, however. Conservatives who scored high in faith intuition (i.e., those who tend to think with their gut instincts) had higher perceptions of the legitimacy among fake news, although this variable had little effect on the judgments of liberals. The researchers suggest that conservatives may be most susceptible on average to fall prey to fake news stories, considering that they are the group most likely to be exposed to such material online, and they are also the group with the highest average levels of faith in intuition. Checks out. Quote However, liberals aren't off the hook, as they are statistically more likely to use investment in the righteousness of their political viewpoints to believe politically-consistent news stories, and their higher level of need for cognition to delegitimize politically-inconsistent news stories. The researchers found that liberals who scored higher in a measure of "collective narcissism"-- which measures a tendency to invest in, and perceive superiority of, your political views--showed exaggerated legitimacy judgments for the politically-consistent (e.g., anti-Trump) fake news stories. This data is interesting because it suggests that collective narcissism is not only a right-wing populist phenomenon. No shit Sherlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Very true, but I'll take superiorist fucks if I can have rights for all and a planet that doesn't burn year around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Between leftists on my twitter feed howling about how the CIA did Chapo Trap House or that Maidan was a coup orchestrated by the US and liberals going down the Blue Anon rabbit hole to expect that Trump will be indicted "any day now" I can definitely say that conspiracies and lies are definitely a fixture in left wing ideology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I saw an article a few years ago about a guy who did rightwing fake news and then tried to expand into leftwing fake news. He said it didn't really catch on not because leftwing people never took the bait, but because it tended to fizzle out once someone showed up in the comments with actual facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 People can easily be duped. The difference I see is that, generally speaking, people on the left will push up corrections or fact-checks on fake articles or tweets, as generally speaking, the truth is higher regarded than "whatever I want to be right." Of course, this isn't universal, I'm sure plenty of folks just accept whatever makes them feel superior. But in contrast, I think I've seen this type of behavior only a handful of times when viewing right-wing news articles or tweets. All anecdotal of course, just what I've personally seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 This is very unlike enlightened centrists who are perfect and don’t have their heads buried in the sand 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 The fact that one group is consistently shown fake news and the other is far less likely to should tell you its not a both sides thing, as one side is clearly self correcting and the other just goes further down the hole, lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I actually went to read the article but stopped because I saw an ad for the DW jerkoff’s razor company. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, Joe said: DW jerkoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 People make everything religious. It is just part of the human condition and how we as species make sense of the world. You have to actively fight against these impulses and frankly, most people do not. This is most easily seen when you ask people not what they believe, but why do they believe those things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Hey man, I’ll never mock anyone who gets duped. I once spent $60 on weed, except it wasn’t weed, it was some ground up pine tree branches. Not even fucking oregano. Pine tree branches. Actually, no, that’s hilarious. But if you’re getting duped by redstatesoldierhillaryclintonisthedevilbuymypillow.fart, you deserve to be mocked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 25 minutes ago, Jason said: If you don’t know what I’m talking about, it’s best you don’t know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, MarSolo said: Hey man, I’ll never mock anyone who gets duped. I once spent $60 on weed, except it wasn’t weed, it was some ground up pine tree branches. Did you smoke it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Did you smoke it? Nah, I was drunk when I bought it, saw it fake immediately, and then spent the next two hours scouring the streets of Philly trying to find the guys who sold it to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 minute ago, MarSolo said: Nah, I was drunk when I bought it, saw it fake immediately, and then spent the next two hours scouring the streets of Philly trying to find the guys who sold it to me. Missed opportunity. It could have been the best shit you've ever smoked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 36 minutes ago, Jason said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Nooooooooooooooooooooo. What have I done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I don’t doubt the conclusions reached here, I just don’t think the method used really tells you all that much. They’re giving people a headline, a quick blurb, and then asking them to judge whether or not they believe it. The only thing you can go off of here is personal bias, you don’t have a detailed explanation, you don’t have a way to research further, it’s a quick gut check and nothing else. That fact that liberals and conservatives are going to give a knee jerk reaction that sticks to their existing f prejudices isn’t shocking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Complaining about woke razors my god the grift has no limit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Complaining about woke razors my god the grift has no limit When a product you use everyday has been taken over from the opposing cult, you need to find a source from within your own one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: When a product you use everyday has been taken over from the opposing cult, you need to find a source from within your own one. You don’t actually have to carry water for the racists at the daily wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: You don’t actually have to carry water for the racists at the daily wire I actually suggest they were part of a cult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 The proper response to these people is not “well ackshully they have a point” it is to laugh and mock them for being upset that advertisers don’t want to financially support racism sexism and transphobia 1 minute ago, AbsolutSurgen said: I actually suggest they were part of a cult Yes and what was the “other cult” and why did the daily wire get cut off from it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Well, damn, once leftists start reading and watching news about literal made up fairytales as their primary source of knowledge, and then refuse to accept facts from any reputable institutions as a counter, we are going to be in a heap of doo doo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The proper response to these people is not “well ackshully they have a point” it is to laugh and mock them for being upset that advertisers don’t want to financially support racism sexism and transphobia Yes and what was the “other cult” and why did the daily wire get cut off from it If you go to Gillette’s website, there is literally no mention of wokeness or anything. They made one ad where they were like “we don’t hate trans people” so now they are the opposing cult somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 centrism is a disease that specifically targets one’s ability to spot differences in severity 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I'm reading Ezra Klein's "Why we're polarized," and he references a study that finds people who are more engaged in politics are less likely to believe facts that counter their political beliefs, and that is irrespective of intelligence if I remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, Joe said: If you go to Gillette’s website, there is literally no mention of wokeness or anything. They made one ad where they were like “we don’t hate trans people” so now they are the opposing cult somehow. I thought the fight was over Harry’s Razors pulling ads from their podcasts after a few people tweeted about something one of the DW podcasters said, not Gillette? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I was going to say that we will have a problem once I start seeing leftist talking about trump murdering babies and drinking their blood in a bid to stay immortal, but since everything is projection with those people, trump probably totally murders babies and drinks their blood in a bid to stay immortal. I don’t believe conspiracies, I start them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I thought the fight was over Harry’s Razors pulling ads from their podcasts after a few people tweeted about something one of the DW podcasters said, not Gillette? I’m not sure but definitely sounds like something best if you never hear about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Fringe idealogs on both sides are a problem, but the right-wing fringe is scarily seeping into actual elected officials. No wait, let me clarify. There were always crazies holding state offices. The scary thing is those crazies making their way onto the federal payroll. I'll start worrying about left-wing fake news being a real problem when it starts influencing actual members of Congress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghost_MH said: Fringe idealogs on both sides are a problem, but the right-wing fringe is scarily seeping into actual elected officials. No wait, let me clarify. There were always crazies holding state offices. The scary thing is those crazies making their way onto the federal payroll. I'll start worrying about left-wing fake news being a real problem when it starts influencing actual members of Congress. Correct. 25-30% of the American voting population are "fringe" at this point, believing in outright fabricated conspiracy theories. They are right-wing. The number on the left is nowhere near as close, and the things they believe are nowhere near as dangerous. It's like saying that your friend who believes NASA never landed a man on the moon is the same as someone who believes Joe Biden is eating babies for secret devil powers, and therefore is willing to kill Democrats to stop him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Guys America has always been crazy and reactionaries especially so. A casual glance through our history shows it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I'd also add there are way way more right wing crazies and they actually embedded within the governnment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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