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2 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

I’m curious, do you guys think about the state of affairs in the country regularly throughout the day? This place is just about the only place where I discuss any of these matters these days. I find that very few people IRL spend much time talking about such things and it certainly doesn’t seem to mentally and emotionally consume them as I often see it does here.

 

For me, it's practically 24/7/65.

 

No, I'm genuinely not kidding!  I may not discuss it with others, but I'm sure as hell thinking about it while I'm talking to them about other things.

 

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Just now, sblfilms said:

I’m curious, do you guys think about the state of affairs in the country regularly throughout the day? This place is just about the only place where I discuss any of these matters these days. I find that very few people IRL spend much time talking about such things and it certainly doesn’t seem to mentally and emotionally consume them as I often see it does here.

In my case yeah. I have one friend irl I discuss these topics with but otherwise it’s just here. 

my partners don’t like discussing this at all.

 

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5 hours ago, CastletonSnob said:

I mean, I expect the worst candidates to win in my state of Texas. but the fact that Lake, Walker and Oz are favored to win their respective races confounds me.

Its hard to expect Fetterman to win. He shouldn't have debated Oz. Its clear that people attacking the reporter who spoke with him a few weeks ago were way ahead of themselves 

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1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

The problem is that the Democratic "bench" genuinely does appear to be relatively thin.

 

As a party, the Democrats appear to do a pretty piss-poor job of elevating "rising stars" to genuine positions of prominence.

 

Biden is 100% running again barring something dramatic happening to his health. I genuinely don't know why anyone would expect anything otherwise.

 

I don't know that the concept of a bench has ever really mattered, given that relatively speaking both Obama and Trump came out of nowhere.

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Just now, BloodyHell said:

Its hard to expect Fetterman to win. He shouldn't have debated Oz. Its clear that people attacking the reporter who spoke with him a few weeks ago were way ahead of themselves 

 

Him not debating Oz would've been just as bad, if not worse. Attack ads would be "Fetterman refused to debate Oz. Is it because he's mentally unqualified for office?"

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1 minute ago, Kal-El814 said:

The trend of Oz catching up to Letterman was not meaningfully impacted by the debate. Debates in general do not matter and that one was not an exception.

Except undecided broke 2-1 for oz right after. Debates definitely matter when you're dealing with cognitive functions.

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8 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

I’m curious, do you guys think about the state of affairs in the country regularly throughout the day? This place is just about the only place where I discuss any of these matters these days. I find that very few people IRL spend much time talking about such things and it certainly doesn’t seem to mentally and emotionally consume them as I often see it does here.

 

I "think" about the state affairs almost everyday, even if just in passing. I probably discuss it 2-3 times a week with co-workers or my wife.

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42 minutes ago, Uaarkson said:


Right. The direction we’re headed in is very concerning, but this whole “end of American democracy” thing is hyperbolic.

You have consider that only since 1964 were we a democracy in any meaningful sense of the word. Returning to a pre civil rights/voting rights act time actually does mean the the end of small d democratic government if you accept that words have any real meaning

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28 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

The problem is that the Democratic "bench" genuinely does appear to be relatively thin.

 

As a party, the Democrats appear to do a pretty piss-poor job of elevating "rising stars" to genuine positions of prominence.

 

This is mainly because Gen X and Millennial "rising stars" are actually left compared to the very right-wing old guard. The old guard sees "socialism" as a dirty word while the younger generations don't care about the labels, they just want the same benefits every other first world country enjoys.

 

Just blame the Internet. Before the Internet, it was rare to regularly communicate with people on opposite sides of the globe. Nowadays, I can bitch about the $2k bill I just got from my daughter's doctor and easily encounter people that haven't spent that much, out of pocket, they're entire lives. I had a debt collector call me looking for my 6yo over a passed due medical bill that was accidently assigned directly to him and not me. That's cool.

 

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1 hour ago, Uaarkson said:

I’m just saying. The doomerism is starting to get a little tiring.

 

Really? Cause let me tell you, I'm really loving having this dread. I love that women have had some of their rights stripped away. I love that people reject science for feels. I love that lack of action against climate change as we reach tipping points. I love that we still have a pandemic and shit policies for combating it. It feels so great being aware of this and not seeing a path to make humanity actually work.

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48 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

The problem is that the Democratic "bench" genuinely does appear to be relatively thin.

 

As a party, the Democrats appear to do a pretty piss-poor job of elevating "rising stars" to genuine positions of prominence.

I feel like you need to be out of power to do that effectively, and in the last cycle completely failed to do that and now we've got weekend at Biden's. 

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1 minute ago, Ominous said:

I feel like you need to be out of power to do that effectively, and in the last cycle completely failed to do that and now we've got weekend at Biden's. 

 

The Democrats were out of power and we still got Nancy as Speaker again. 

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7 minutes ago, legend said:

Really? Cause let me tell you, I'm really loving having this dread. I love that women have had some of their rights stripped away. I love that people reject science for feels. I love that lack of action against climate change as we reach tipping points. I love that we still have a pandemic and shit policies for combating it. It feels so great being aware of this and not seeing a path to make humanity actually work.

 

Boomers on both sides of the isle will eventually die, so there's something to look forward to.

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5 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said:

 

Boomers on both sides of the isle will eventually die, so there's something to look forward to.


I don’t look forward to Gen X, which is really the Generation that went with Reagan and pushed guys like trump into office.

 

1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

The problem is that the Democratic "bench" genuinely does appear to be relatively thin.

 

As a party, the Democrats appear to do a pretty piss-poor job of elevating "rising stars" to genuine positions of prominence.

 

When I saw the number of Republicans who ran versus Democrats in 2016, I agreed with this. But we saw an even greater bench run in 2020 on the Democratic side. So the bench certainly isn’t thin at all, but I think some people just didn’t like the candidates and so they view the bench as thin.

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4 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

Let me tell you a thing or two about "Generation X"...

 

Well, they are the generation raised by Boomers.

 

Amusingly, I'm right on the line between Gen X and Millennial and while Millennials have been dunked on since they were a thing, I do find many of those on the border with me that so prefer finding themselves in the Millennial side of that line.

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I can anecdotally share that most folks I talk to about voting seem pretty apathetic in my area. Yet, the 'publicans seem out in force today. Making me sad even before I vote! I had a canvasser who came to my door on Monday share that people are telling her that they don't see the point. Could just be a tactic, but its seems grim in upstate NY. 

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