Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Its not a loss if you can't sell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I imagine if Ukraine comes out of this intact that western money will come flooding in to help rebuild, hopefully a lot of that from seized Russian overseas assets. So there would be some irony if oligarch money was eventually used to make Russian soldiers desert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I'm having trouble comprehending the end goal at this point for Russia. Almost the whole world condemns Russia. Their airlines have been hit with bans, banks/economy seemed fucked, technology manufacturers have cut off shipments...etc. Did Putin expect this to happen? If he would actually take Ukraine do all those sanctions stay in place forever? From my simple brain, it feels like he is crashing his own country into the ground and is Ukraine worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, DarkStar189 said: I'm having trouble comprehending the end goal at this point for Russia. Almost the whole world condemns Russia. Their airlines have been hit with bans, banks/economy seemed fucked, technology manufacturers have cut off shipments...etc. Did Putin expect this to happen? If he would actually take Ukraine do all those sanctions stay in place forever? From my simple brain, it feels like he is crashing his own country into the ground and is Ukraine worth it? Something about old glories of the Empire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, DarkStar189 said: I'm having trouble comprehending the end goal at this point for Russia. Almost the whole world condemns Russia. Their airlines have been hit with bans, banks/economy seemed fucked, technology manufacturers have cut off shipments...etc. Did Putin expect this to happen? If he would actually take Ukraine do all those sanctions stay in place forever? From my simple brain, it feels like he is crashing his own country into the ground and is Ukraine worth it? Putin is surrounded with yes men. It's doubtful that anyone in his inner circle put up much resistance to this plan. Because of Putin likely felt the pros vastly outweighed the cons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, DarkStar189 said: I'm having trouble comprehending the end goal at this point for Russia. Almost the whole world condemns Russia. Their airlines have been hit with bans, banks/economy seemed fucked, technology manufacturers have cut off shipments...etc. Did Putin expect this to happen? If he would actually take Ukraine do all those sanctions stay in place forever? From my simple brain, it feels like he is crashing his own country into the ground and is Ukraine worth it? There is no end goal at this point, because he wanted a specific outcome that was immediately thwarted. All of the planning was predicated on that outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LazyPiranha Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I’m no military strategist but I imagine the “ideal” plan was to swoop in, secure the capital, and install your weird puppet government in the first 24-48 hours and then lean back and tell the world to lick your Russian balls. No prolonged fighting, no pleas on social media, no time for anyone to hem and haw about it. If Russia had just swooped in and planted the flag in Kyiv I think a lot of the people pulling support now would have just shrugged and kept on with business as usual as the path of least resistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 From this new compilation they released: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Its been pretty shocking how effective the drones have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: Sooo, if the EU is going to supply Ukraine with older Soviet jets, can Turkey be convinced to complete their deliveries of TB2s immediately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I’m gonna show my whole ass here for a second, why would you be moving fuel by train right now? We’re those in Ukraine territory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, LazyPiranha said: I’m gonna show my whole ass here for a second, why would you be moving fuel by train right now? We’re those in Ukraine territory? Russian logistics is very rail dependent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 Another reason why crypto should be banned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said: Its been pretty shocking how effective the drones have been. The Russians are charging calvary against machine gun fortifications, to borrow a historical parallel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said: Its been pretty shocking how effective the drones have been. The recent conflict where Azerbaijan effectively humiliated Armenia using really only the TB-2s should've gotten everyone's attention. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The recent conflict where Azerbaijan effectively humiliated Armenia using really only the TB-2s should've gotten everyone's attention. There have been some questions about how Ukraine has been able to keep them in the air this whole time. Part of it comes down to the Russians not having an effective anti-drone system, but it's also speculated that the Turks are replacing them secretly if they are destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Speaking of Turkey... This is pretty smart on their part: blocking ALL warships means that any Russian objections should be muted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said: I’m gonna show my whole ass here for a second, why would you be moving fuel by train right now? We’re those in Ukraine territory? Joe Biden likes trains. They're trying to turn him on Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Trains easily destroyed by drone! This is why we must invest in freeways and the freedom and security of a gas powered car! - Someone somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Another reason why crypto should be banned. This guy is full of shit. The only thing right now more volatile than bitcoin is the ruble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I do not see how the current Kremlin leadership remains intact when the average Russian has to deal with this kind of bullshit. I know Putin has consolidated a lot of power, but there have to be enough opportunists willing to capitalize that it becomes a matter of when, not if. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marioandsonic Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Chris- said: I do not see how the current Kremlin leadership remains intact when the average Russian has to deal with this kind of bullshit. I know Putin has consolidated a lot of power, but there have to be enough opportunists willing to capitalize that it becomes a matter of when, not if. This is why I always try to have a bit of cash on me whenever I go somewhere. You never know when you'll need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: This is why I always try to have a bit of cash on me whenever I go somewhere. You never know when you'll need it. Ok Boomer 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Analysts agree that the Russians are making tactical adjustments: VERY thorough tactical analysis here: Note: the use of the term "thunder run" which first originated during the 2003 US invasion of Iraq. Kudos to me for identifying the parallels earlier today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Another reason why crypto should be banned. Crypto and libertarians are so fucking stupid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: This is why I always try to have a bit of cash on me whenever I go somewhere. You never know when you'll need it. It's true, was at a concert this weekend and parking only took cash. It's 2022 for crying out loud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subzwari1987 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Comet said: It's true, was at a concert this weekend and parking only took cash. It's 2022 for crying out loud! In the age of Square devices/Apple Pay/Google Pay/Tap Credit cards, there’s no excuse for Cash only events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I'm going to give a very good reason to actually have cash on you at all times: mugging. In that event, having some cash to give to the mugger means that you're less likely to be injured. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Comet said: It's true, was at a concert this weekend and parking only took cash. It's 2022 for crying out loud! If you were charged for parking your human rights were violated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Subzwari1987 said: In the age of Square devices/Apple Pay/Google Pay/Tap Credit cards, there’s no excuse for Cash only events. Avoiding reporting income Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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