Update: Senate shelves the BBB Act

[Jason]

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Every Susan Collins /Biden voter in Maine just Keep getting played

[Reputator]

6 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

I still honestly can't fathom Manchin's ultimate goal in all of this.

 

His goal is to sink Biden's Presidency. He's full of Koch Bucks.

[CayceG]

Biden needs to be doing every one of these things:

 

Because they have the power to do them. 

 

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[skillzdadirecta]

6 hours ago, Jason said:

 

He'll switch to the GOP before Biden's term is over. 

That's my thought... he probably thinks he can reach The White House as a Democrat turned Republican. I wouldn't be surprised if that's his ultimate goal @Commissar SFLUFAN

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

My thought is he’s actually very dumb and has no endgame, just a dog chasing a car

[thewhyteboar]

Yup. He's just another dumb rich who hates poor people and loves being on tv.

[Jason]

 

[GeneticBlueprint]

1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said:

That's my thought... he probably thinks he can reach The White House as a Democrat turned Republican. I wouldn't be surprised if that's his ultimate goal @Commissar SFLUFAN

 

He might think that but the GOP will never go for him as a presidential candidate. He has been a Dem for so long. So they wouldn't trust him at that level. He can't generate a cult following like Trump. So they have no use for him at that level.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Copium 

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

At the end of the day if something like BBB fails to pass democratic leadership needs to step aside. Biden, Pelosi, Schumer all of them. Push the old guard aside. 

[GeneticBlueprint]

4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

At the end of the day if something like BBB fails to pass democratic leadership needs to step aside. Biden, Pelosi, Schumer all of them. Push the old guard aside. 

 

My frustration is speaking more than anything here so take what I say here in that spirit.

 

The whole party needs to be shut down if they can't get some sort of BBB framework through. Even when they deliver something (infrastructure) they can't market or communicate that win to the broader American public in a meaningful way.

[Joe]

Your occasional reminder that Cal Cunningham and Sara Gideon fucking suck.

[Jason]

32 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

At the end of the day if something like BBB fails to pass democratic leadership needs to shoved into a volcano.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

22 minutes ago, Joe said:

Your occasional reminder that Cal Cunningham and Sara Gideon fucking suck.

Bill Nelson losing by ~10k votes seems relevant as well

[Jason]

4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Bill Nelson losing by ~10k votes seems relevant as well

 

I'm sure Bill lost fair and square. 

[Jwheel86]

2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

At the end of the day if something like BBB fails to pass democratic leadership needs to step aside. Biden, Pelosi, Schumer all of them. Push the old guard aside. 

 

Agreed, but who's the new guard? Mayor Pete? Beto? Only hope Democrats have is an open primary in 24 when someone out of nowhere emerges. 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

7 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said:

 

Agreed, but who's the new guard? Mayor Pete? Beto? Only hope Democrats have is an open primary in 24 when someone out of nowhere emerges. 

Keep tossing the shit aside when something doesn’t work. 

[Jason]

30 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said:

Agreed, but who's the new guard? Mayor Pete? Beto? Only hope Democrats have is an open primary in 24 when someone out of nowhere emerges. 

 

The geriatric old guard refusing to get out of the way and let people rise up the ranks is precisely why you can't think of anyone. Like Rahm Emmanuel for example (I know, he's a piece of shit we don't actually want rising up the ranks, but he's the first example to come to mind) went off and became mayor of Chicago after the Obama administration not because he wanted to be a mayor. Going and being a mayor after serving in a White House administration is a demotion for a political ladder climber. But he did it because there was zero upward mobility on the ladder because the old fucks like Pelosi have refused to get off the ladder, and there's a LOT of would-be rising stars who never get on the ladder in the first place because they know they're going to stall because of the old timers not grooming successors. 

[Jason]

 

[skillzdadirecta]

Lol people scapegoating democratic leadership completely ignoring the real ones responsible for this quagmire... The American Fucking People. You get the Government you deserve in a democracy.  What does our current state of affairs say about us as a people? This country deserves whatever is coming next.

[thewhyteboar]

Just the dumbest, most out-of-touch mother fucker on the planet. A silver spoon asshole whose only exposure to normal people is when they clean his multi-million dollar yacht. If there is a god, his infernal punishment should be to actually spend time with his constituents and walk a mile in their shoes.

[SuperSpreader]

9 hours ago, Jason said:

 

The geriatric old guard refusing to get out of the way and let people rise up the ranks is precisely why you can't think of anyone. Like Rahm Emmanuel for example (I know, he's a piece of shit we don't actually want rising up the ranks, but he's the first example to come to mind) went off and became mayor of Chicago after the Obama administration not because he wanted to be a mayor. Going and being a mayor after serving in a White House administration is a demotion for a political ladder climber. But he did it because there was zero upward mobility on the ladder because the old fucks like Pelosi have refused to get off the ladder, and there's a LOT of would-be rising stars who never get on the ladder in the first place because they know they're going to stall because of the old timers not grooming successors. 

Even Obama has had no where to go. He's basically a cheerleader that shows up sometimes. 

[SuperSpreader]

40 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said:

Just the dumbest, most out-of-touch mother fucker on the planet. A silver spoon asshole whose only exposure to normal people is when they clean his multi-million dollar yacht. If there is a god, his infernal punishment should be to actually spend time with his constituents and walk a mile in their shoes.

Manchin: Surprise suckers it's me Ronald Reagan! 

[Jason]

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Keep Sens. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema close and publicly praise them, Mitch McConnell explained, because they could “save this institution.”

 

[CitizenVectron]

You know, people laughed at Idiocracy and President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, Five-time Ultimate Smackdown Champion
President of the United States, but at least he actually cared about America, even if he didn't understand the issues.

 

 

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

9 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Lol people scapegoating democratic leadership completely ignoring the real ones responsible for this quagmire... The American Fucking People. You get the Government you deserve in a democracy.  What does our current state of affairs say about us as a people? This country deserves whatever is coming next.

Yeah and our political institutions don’t do us any favors here with the clear rural bias in the senate, to say nothing of the static size of the house while the population doubled.

1 hour ago, thewhyteboar said:

Just the dumbest, most out-of-touch mother fucker on the planet. A silver spoon asshole whose only exposure to normal people is when they clean his multi-million dollar yacht. If there is a god, his infernal punishment should be to actually spend time with his constituents and walk a mile in their shoes.

I gotta tell you he’s got big Appalachian voter energy/psychosis here

[Jwheel86]

 

Fuck it, pull him off his committees.

[Jason]

21 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said:

 

Fuck it, pull him off his committees.

 

@Joe

[Jwheel86]

 

lol

[mclumber1]

2 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said:

 

lol

 

It affects the budget, so it could be passed under reconciliation rules with a simple majority.

 

Like I said the other day, if the child tax credit is important enough, then the Senate should absolutely use its remaining reconciliation vote to pass it.  

 

You all are trying to reach for the stars with BBB when you could have just been reaching for the cabinet where you keep your cereal. 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

There’s no voting or negotiation tactic that can deal with bad faith bargaining so good job Susan collins/Biden voters in Maine you’re the biggest dipshits alive

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

11 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

 

It affects the budget, so it could be passed under reconciliation rules with a simple majority.

 

Like I said the other day, if the child tax credit is important enough, then the Senate should absolutely use its remaining reconciliation vote to pass it.  

 

You all are trying to reach for the stars with BBB when you could have just been reaching for the cabinet where you keep your cereal. 

This might be the dumbest read on the situation yet. Are you sure you don’t work for the Times?

[Firewithin]

18 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said:

 

lol

 

these people live in a fantasy world just like gop lives in a fantasy world

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

This might be the dumbest read on the situation yet. Are you sure you don’t work for the Times?

 

Maybe he runs the pitchbot account.