mclumber1 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: This might be the dumbest read on the situation yet. Are you sure you don’t work for the Times? Cry mor lib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 Chuck seems to have had it with manchins bullshit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 11 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Lol people scapegoating democratic leadership completely ignoring the real ones responsible for this quagmire... The American Fucking People. You get the Government you deserve in a democracy. What does our current state of affairs say about us as a people? This country deserves whatever is coming next. Sorta, the real problem is that the senate in no way actually represents the people. The 50 Republican Senators represent 43.6% of the American population The 50 Democratic Senators represent 56.4% of the American population 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 Once again jamelle don’t miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 Sane people: “if you don’t like this elect more democrats “ sane people and now also manchin: “if you don’t like this elect more democrats” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 You know what would lower prescription drug cost? Single payer healthcare. Just throwing it out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Kal-El814 said: You know what would lower prescription drug cost? Single payer healthcare. Just throwing it out there. Manchin received large campaign contributions from daughter’s company amid EpiPen scandal • OpenSecrets WWW.OPENSECRETS.ORG Joe Manchin's daughter was embroiled in the EpiPen price scandal while her company gave large campaign contributions to Manchin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Jason said: Manchin received large campaign contributions from daughter’s company amid EpiPen scandal • OpenSecrets WWW.OPENSECRETS.ORG Joe Manchin's daughter was embroiled in the EpiPen price scandal while her company gave large campaign contributions to Manchin. I know, I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 It feels like the media might be finally turning on Machin? Maybe if we keep reading he sucks articles they'll keep writing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: "Fuck them kids." -Lord Manchin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 Take that but then start talks with Romney on the CTC plan that he put out there (iirc Romneys plan was better anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Probably already posted but I lol'd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Take that but then start talks with Romney on the CTC plan that he put out there (iirc Romneys plan was better anyway) This is where I'm at as well. Take this offer, Biden. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 The thing that gets me about his opposition to the CTC is that its not even new fucking money, its just half of the current credit people claim at the end of the year, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: This is where I'm at as well. Take this offer, Biden. I just wait for the whole Manchin-Sinema dynamic to kick in where you can offer the world to one and the other will be a hard-no on some other aspect of the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: The thing that gets me about his opposition to the CTC is that its not even new fucking money, its just half of the current credit people claim at the end of the year, lol. It is an increase from $2000 per child to $3000/$3600 for 6 and under. The payout is also fully refundable whereas previously only the first $1400 was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, ThreePi said: I just wait for the whole Manchin-Sinema dynamic to kick in where you can offer the world to one and the other will be a hard-no on some other aspect of the bill. If it's Romney's bill you presumably only need one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: This is where I'm at as well. Take this offer, Biden. Take the offer. You get climate change, ACA subsides, and pre-k. Coupled with the infrastructure bill, that's a lot of things to run on. As others have said, work on a bipartisan basis for the child tax credits and paid leave of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Biden and Manchin speak - POLITICO WWW.POLITICO.COM The two connected and there is a sense that talks around Build Back Better aren't done yet. Quote The conversation ended with a sense that negotiations would, in fact, resume around the Build Back Better Act in some form in the new year. The tone of conversation was cordial and it was agreed that they would speak again on legislative priorities. Quote White House staff had given Manchin a heads-up on Thursday that the president was soon to put out a statement accepting a delay in the Build Back Better Act and that it was going to mention the West Virginia senator by name. Manchin objected, asking that either his name be left out or that he not be alone because his family had already been the target of abuse and he didn’t want to be singled out. But the statement went out anyway, and contained only Manchin’s name. The senator then snapped at White House aides and told them that he was done negotiating. The West Wing interpreted that as meaning that current talks were done but could pick up again next year. "I'm going to torpedo a bill because I'm mad," is funny from a yacht-riding out-of-touch coal baron. But Manchin's been all over the place on what he will and won't support. There's no sense from anyone on Capitol Hill -- no rep, no Senator -- that BBB is dead, so I expect we'll be talking about it again early 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I wonder which is worse, make a deal with Manchin or Romney. I'm sure Romney would love to look like the both sides hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 44 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: I wonder which is worse, make a deal with Manchin or Romney. I'm sure Romney would love to look like the both sides hero. Make a deal with Mittens, he's dead in the GOP anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Joe Manchin is costing the US economy $60 billion by tanking Build Back Better, Goldman Sachs says WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM Goldman Sachs lowered its US growth estimates for the first three quarters of 2022, pegging the update exclusively to Manchin's "no" vote on BBB. Why isn't Goldman bribing Republicans into voting for it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, Jason said: Joe Manchin is costing the US economy $60 billion by tanking Build Back Better, Goldman Sachs says WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM Goldman Sachs lowered its US growth estimates for the first three quarters of 2022, pegging the update exclusively to Manchin's... Why isn't Goldman bribing Republicans into voting for it then? Midterms matter more to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 19 hours ago, Jason said: If it's Romney's bill you presumably only need one of them. And I'm sure that Collins and Murkowski will sign on as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Why does that matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Joe said: Why does that matter? I see she's reached the point where she's treated like a Republican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Are any votes being held up by her leaving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Joe said: Are any votes being held up by her leaving? Does it matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, marioandsonic said: Does it matter? I mean yes? Why pick a fight with her if she was actually going to vote for BBB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Fuck. Joe Manchin for President THEINTERCEPT.COM Lyndon B. Johnson, a giant of American politics, recognized a political opportunity and reoriented. Manchin would rather be the man riding the bomb to the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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