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7 minutes ago, Xbob42 said:

I mean, I'm still mostly broke but I can generally get a game when I want, so like 2/3rds or more of my EGS library is stuff I've already played.

 

That's honestly impressive.  It's changed my purchase habits personally.  Between EGS and Twitch, it's gotten to a point where I've pretty much stopped buying indies unless they're bundled.

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22 hours ago, Pikachu said:

Sounds good. I held off on FF7R for next gen.

    I just thought I'd wait till it was all released and get the ultimate edition or what ever it's inevitability going to be called, but at this rate that's probably late summer 2025. I'm not going to buy a chapter at a time, even though I'm pretty sure they stand alone too. 

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20 hours ago, legend said:

I've been itching to do another playthrough. Maybe I'll wait to see what's happening first.

 

FF7R is one of my favorite RPGs from last gen. And god damn that sound track is good.

 

 

      I've been incredibly great this last few years in not watching gameplay from games that I know I will get even if it's awhile from now! That said wow, that was really awesome to watch [I did skip half of it] I knew it was in real time, but hadn't seen how it was implemented. I do want this game, but it being in chapters has me holding off for a complete edition, maybe even a collectors edition. FF7 not to be a fanboy was the first in the series I ever played, and was and still is on my top 5 games of all time. This just takes the game to a whole new level and yes...That sound track fucking rocks! 

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47 minutes ago, HardAct said:

      I've been incredibly great this last few years in not watching gameplay from games that I know I will get even if it's awhile from now! That said wow, that was really awesome to watch [I did skip half of it] I knew it was in real time, but hadn't seen how it was implemented. I do want this game, but it being in chapters has me holding off for a complete edition, maybe even a collectors edition. FF7 not to be a fanboy was the first in the series I ever played, and was and still is on my top 5 games of all time. This just takes the game to a whole new level and yes...That sound track fucking rocks! 

 

Yeah I was skeptical at first with the combat, but I ended up really liking it a lot. I think it was a really nice blend between realtime and ATB and I think it meshes well with the style of FF7. I also personally think they struck the perfect balance of difficulty. I didn't die/fail all that many times in my playthrough, but I also always felt like it demanded my attention or I would fail.

 

FF7 was my first FF game too :) (Of course I did also play FF6 after I played FF7)

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The ending of FF7R was ballsy as fuck, and I don't want to judge it yet, but @Xbob42 is right that Nomura will probably fuck it up. But I certainly like what he's trying to do in theory at least - Episode 2 will make or break it for me. I enjoyed KH1 and KH2 but it got so damn stupid, complicated, and needlessly confusing that I didn't even bother with KH3, if that tells you anything. 

 

And as much as I enjoyed Advent Children on a superficial level, it's hardly a well-written movie. 

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10 hours ago, HardAct said:

    I just thought I'd wait till it was all released and get the ultimate edition or what ever it's inevitability going to be called, but at this rate that's probably late summer 2025. I'm not going to buy a chapter at a time, even though I'm pretty sure they stand alone too. 

 

More like late summer 2035

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18 minutes ago, BloodyHell said:

No, it would be the same as Halo 4 being split up into multiple games.

Yeah, people continually talked about how this argument doesn't work because it's a "full-length game," but a full-length game and a complete story, ESPECIALLY for an RPG, and ESPECIALLY for that's already been told, are very, very different things. FF7R barely covers the very beginning of the story. The fact that they stretched it out into 30-40 hours doesn't change that.

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23 hours ago, Paperclyp said:

It really wouldn’t tho. If you don’t like the Halo 4 comparison, let me tell you about a little game called Halo 2. 

What about Halo 2? It is still a complete game. A great one. I loved playing as the arbiter. The anaogy doesn't hold up. FF7 is a complete game. FF7R is a small part of that of game.

 

I love FF7R, it's one of my favorite games this year, but its a small part of what was a complete experience.

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1 hour ago, BloodyHell said:

What about Halo 2? It is still a complete game. A great one. I loved playing as the arbiter. The anaogy doesn't hold up. FF7 is a complete game. FF7R is a small part of that of game.

 

I love FF7R, it's one of my favorite games this year, but its a small part of what was a complete experience.


I can’t remember who I’ve told this to on the boards(I remember having a similar convo), but I do not want to spoil FF7R for you, so as much as I feel like I can say is that it is a reimagining of the story of FF7, and god I just don’t feel like I can say more than that. 
 

I understand the impulse to wait until the full storyline has been complete, but I think if you have genuine interest in the game and are doing that out of some kind of principled stance, you’re going to be waiting a long time and at that point you might realize that it’s not really what you expected it to be, and maybe you’ll be spoiled on a bunch of stuff you didn’t wanna be spoiled on. 
 

That’s the only reason I press the issue I guess. If you’re not gonna get it, make it because it’s kind of wildly overrated? rather than you want the “complete” plot. 

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Halo 2 was designed to be a blueball experience from the outset. That's just a cliffhanger ending. FF7R is just a small slice of a much larger story that's already been told. It'd be like if they remade the Lord of the Rings trilogy except the first movie was them taking the first 45 minutes of the original first movie and making that into its own feature-length movie. It's not just that it's a multi-part story, or a cliffhanger (in fact they had to shoehorn a cliffhanger into FF7R because they part they end on, while they tried to make it as ridiculously dramatic as possible, is still kind of a wet fart from a plot standpoint) but rather that they've taken something we've already experienced and they...

 

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FF7R as a story doesn’t feel complete.  But FF7R as a game does.  The combat system is fully fleshed out, so does the world, equipment systems, secrets, etc.  I didn’t feel like they were saving anything for a sequel in terms of the gameplay.  Which has me curious/concerned what they’ll have to change to keep it fresh.

 

There are the occasional pacing issues, but not really worse than you’d experience in classic FF.  It’s linear, but doesn’t suffer from FFXIII-itis, where everything feels like it’s just a corridor to the next cutscene.  I like the approach it takes to backtracking as well, giving you a few wider moments to just go explore or revisit things.  Also, the way they let you replay chapters for missed items or leveling opportunities is pretty novel for this sort of game too, even though I didn’t do much of it.

 

There’s been some backlash to it having more traditional dungeons in a sense, but I think it needed some of that to avoid being like FFXIII.  It’s not as bad as FFIV or anything, where it’s just floor after floor of dungeon maze, for the sake of a war of attrition.  To me, FF7R feels more like a continuation of what SE got right with DQXI in that regard.
 

I think it’s worth playing regardless of how it ends.  By the time you reach the ending you won’t feel short changed, because it was definitely time for this part to be wrapped up.  Of course, that doesn’t excuse that it ends on a cliffhanger that you’d need to play the og game to better understand.  I don’t think the FF7R project as a whole will ever not rely on the original in some fashion to fill in context.  But it could be a springboard for someone who hasn’t played it yet to go ahead and do it next. 

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Unless you end up hating that they're deliberately diverging from the original at the end for reasons I won't say in clear text, it's hard to imagine not enjoying the game.

 

The original FF7 story and characters are tons of fun, but this game makes it so clear how held back the story was by the technology of the time. There mere fact that you now get beautifully rendered expressive characters with voice acting and a fully orchestrated score makes every emotional beat hit so much better. The fact that they also expand on Jessie, Biggs, and Wedge also adds more emotional heft to it all.

 

Thematically, it also seems like a good cut off point if you're going to split the game because it completes an arc for Cloud. He goes from being an indifferent merc at the start, to stepping into the role of hero.

 

It is easily one of my favorite RPGs of the last gen, "complete" or not.

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On 2/15/2021 at 1:43 PM, Paperclyp said:


I can’t remember who I’ve told this to on the boards(I remember having a similar convo), but I do not want to spoil FF7R for you, so as much as I feel like I can say is that it is a reimagining of the story of FF7, and god I just don’t feel like I can say more than that. 
 

I understand the impulse to wait until the full storyline has been complete, but I think if you have genuine interest in the game and are doing that out of some kind of principled stance, you’re going to be waiting a long time and at that point you might realize that it’s not really what you expected it to be, and maybe you’ll be spoiled on a bunch of stuff you didn’t wanna be spoiled on. 
 

That’s the only reason I press the issue I guess. If you’re not gonna get it, make it because it’s kind of wildly overrated? rather than you want the “complete” plot. 

Why would you be worried about spoiling something I beat months ago? 😜

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On 2/16/2021 at 10:47 AM, legend said:

Unless you end up hating that they're deliberately diverging from the original at the end for reasons I won't say in clear text, it's hard to imagine not enjoying the game.

 

The original FF7 story and characters are tons of fun, but this game makes it so clear how held back the story was by the technology of the time. There mere fact that you now get beautifully rendered expressive characters with voice acting and a fully orchestrated score makes every emotional beat hit so much better. The fact that they also expand on Jessie, Biggs, and Wedge also adds more emotional heft to it all.

 

Thematically, it also seems like a good cut off point if you're going to split the game because it completes an arc for Cloud. He goes from being an indifferent merc at the start, to stepping into the role of hero.

 

It is easily one of my favorite RPGs of the last gen, "complete" or not.

 

I think they made good decisions as to how to create Midgar for a new generation. For example, having the plates always be in view, and Shinra HQ high above, makes their presence feel imposing even if there is no Shinra soldier around.

 

Along with Bloodborne, it probably has some of my favorite boss battles of last gen and an absolute masterpiece of a soundtrack, including many of the new pieces of music like Valkyrie and Ghoul, plus the remixes of Still More Fighting (especially the Airbuster theme). 

 

The story can end up being "Everyone lives!" or it may not. I think 

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I remember Jessie's death was permanent, and they got her close to Cloud as well during the game. They had the rest of AVALANCHE live, but props to them for delving into the characters more and giving Jessie a sendoff like that.

 

Regardless, I can't really shit on what the story might turn out to be when all I have is the story now and the game I just played. And the game I played was a heck of an experience.

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FF7 was one of my favorite and most important games for me back in the day but I haven't played it in so damn long, I'm 99% sure I won't even notice the story changes at this point which is actually great. Looking forward to start with a clean slate and not even notice if the story changes suck.

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34 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

FF7 was one of my favorite and most important games for me back in the day but I haven't played it in so damn long, I'm 99% sure I won't even notice the story changes at this point which is actually great. Looking forward to start with a clean slate and not even notice if the story changes suck.

 

You'll notice.

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57 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

FF7 was one of my favorite and most important games for me back in the day but I haven't played it in so damn long, I'm 99% sure I won't even notice the story changes at this point which is actually great. Looking forward to start with a clean slate and not even notice if the story changes suck.

 

 

You'll absolutely notice. I'd love to elaborate why it's so clear but really you just have to play it.

 

It might take to the end for you to notice, but you'll notice.

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