Sony FF7R PS5 announcement coming.

[BloodyHell]

Apparently includes more content. I hope this is true (the cut Tifa chapter would be nice).

 

New Final Fantasy 7 Remake content may be revealed later this week - VG247

WWW.VG247.COM

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Motomu Toriyama has confirmed he'll make an appearance at Final Fantasy 7 Remake Orchestra World Tour later this week with new info about the game

 

 

 

[Mr.Vic20]

DLC, cross-generational upgrade of a multi-part remake, of a beloved game! What a time to be alive! 

[Pikachu]

Sounds good. I held off on FF7R for next gen.

[Bloodporne]

18 minutes ago, Pikachu said:

Sounds good. I held off on FF7R for next gen.

I apparently did as well, unbeknownst to myself. 

 

Great stuff, I'm excited to play it at some point. 

[stepee]

22 minutes ago, Pikachu said:

Sounds good. I held off on FF7R for next gen.

 

YUP

[Best]

I can confirm it's a great game as I beat it. Should be nice on ps5.

[Paperclyp]

I’m almost on the final chapter of the PS4 version, and, while I liked it, I don’t think I liked it enough to replay it. 
 

Maybe the last chapter will change my mind. 

[legend]

I've been itching to do another playthrough. Maybe I'll wait to see what's happening first.

 

FF7R is one of my favorite RPGs from last gen. And god damn that sound track is good.

 

 

[GameDadGrant]

Sounds about right.

[Xbob42]

1 hour ago, Paperclyp said:

I’m almost on the final chapter of the PS4 version, and, while I liked it, I don’t think I liked it enough to replay it. 
 

Maybe the last chapter will change my mind. 

 The last chapter is what ruined it for me. What a load of Nomura bullshit it was. Otherwise it's a pretty damn good remake for the most part, as long as you ignore the part where they stretched a few hours of events into an entire game with lots and lots of what I consider total filler.

 

Apparently, according to the guy who's been leaking stuff, this'll also be when they announce the PC version.

[Paperclyp]

1 hour ago, Xbob42 said:

 The last chapter is what ruined it for me. What a load of Nomura bullshit it was. Otherwise it's a pretty damn good remake for the most part, as long as you ignore the part where they stretched a few hours of events into an entire game with lots and lots of what I consider total filler.

 

Apparently, according to the guy who's been leaking stuff, this'll also be when they announce the PC version.

I feel like 3/4 of the game I was like, ok soon I’ll have all my characters together and I’ll be able to do side quests and combat at my leisure and it’ll all come together, but it just never came together the way I wanted it to.  Constantly switching materia when the parties changed, not knowing if or when I should spend weapon points, stuff like that. If I played it going in knowing what I now know I would have enjoyed it a lot more, but I didn’t enjoy it enough to play it knowing that stuff lol.
 

I know it supposedly goes a little batshit in the final chapter but frankly as a huge fan of the original I’m kind of ready for that. Give me some weird shit I guess. 

[Xbob42]

Oh I'm no FF7 purist, I just think Nomura is one of the greatest masters to ever exist at stripping all stakes from a story. 

 

But you might like it! Some people who never played the original did. But for me, different is usually good, however Nomura's idea of different always comes across like a 12 year old's fanfic retcon where they just make up whatever to get the results they prefer. 

 

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Which, in Nomura's case, is always a happy ending where everyone lives and even the bad guy is a friend at the end. I almost admire that quality about him since I think a lot of stories have overly cruel outcomes for characters just for shock value or "emotional moments" alone. And while I'm not a huge FF7 fan, it had very little death (outside of the plate falling) to begin with.

 

Trying to recon it so not just more people survive for no reason and indeed possibly bringing in people from another timberline is just dumb. Death sucks, but they were part of the story because it made things matter. 

 

[crispy4000]

6 hours ago, Paperclyp said:

I’m almost on the final chapter of the PS4 version, and, while I liked it, I don’t think I liked it enough to replay it. 
 

Maybe the last chapter will change my mind. 

 

It probably won't.  Being good enough to replay is a tough sell for any RPG.

 

I'll probably rewatch some cutscenes or walk around Wall Market a bunch before the next one is out.  Hard mode seems like it could be good, but I feel like it'll just make the next game seem too easy at first.

 

 

21 minutes ago, Xbob42 said:

Oh I'm no FF7 purist, I just think Nomura is one of the greatest masters to ever exist at stripping all stakes from a story. 

 

But you might like it! Some people who never played the original did. But for me, different is usually good, however Nomura's idea of different always comes across like a 12 year old's fanfic retcon where they just make up whatever to get the results they prefer. 

 

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Which, in Nomura's case, is always a happy ending where everyone lives and even the bad guy is a friend at the end. I almost admire that quality about him since I think a lot of stories have overly cruel outcomes for characters just for shock value or "emotional moments" alone. And while I'm not a huge FF7 fan, it had very little death (outside of the plate falling) to begin with.

 

Trying to recon it so not just more people survive for no reason and indeed possibly bringing in people from another timberline is just dumb. Death sucks, but they were part of the story because it made things matter. 

 

 

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I doubt they'll pull a Sephiroth is a friend now, lol.  Nothing in FF7R indicates they're leaning in that direction.

 

Broken timelines could be a mixed bag on deaths.  Some characters could die in one and live on in another, and either in ways different than PS1 FF7.  If they go that route, I hope at least one timeline is willing to dip into FF6's scorched earth territory.

 

[Xbob42]

1 minute ago, crispy4000 said:

 

It probably won't.  Being good enough to replay is a tough sell for any RPG.

 

I'll probably rewatch some cutscenes or walk around Wall Market a bunch before the next one is out.  Hard mode seems like it could be good, but I feel like it'll just make the next game seem too easy at first.

 

 

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I doubt they'll pull a Sephiroth is a friend now, lol.  Nothing in FF7R indicates they're leaning in that direction.

 

Broken timelines could be a mixed bag on deaths.  Some characters could die in one and live on in another, and either in ways different than PS1 FF7.  If they go that route, I'd hope at least one timeline is willing to dip more into FF6's scorched earth territory.

 

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Nothing in KH3 indicated that either... until it happened. Also Sephiroth got pretty bro-y with Cloud at the end there when they were chilling on the meteor together.

 

[Brian]

Never played the original. I found FF7R extremely boring and plodding. 
 

[crispy4000]

44 minutes ago, Xbob42 said:

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Nothing in KH3 indicated that either... until it happened. Also Sephiroth got pretty bro-y with Cloud at the end there when they were chilling on the meteor together.

 

 

Sounds like modern Disney.

 

44 minutes ago, Xbob42 said:

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Also Sephiroth got pretty bro-y with Cloud at the end there when they were chilling on the meteor together.

 

 

Scene is lacking a lot of context we don't have yet.   Either way, its a villain trying to tempt the hero figure with power/escape.

[Xbob42]

Ol' Tetsuya "Lacking A Lot Of Context" Nomura

[crispy4000]

36 minutes ago, ManUtdRedDevils said:

Never played the original. I found FF7R extremely boring and plodding. 
 

 

I'm 30 hours into FF9 right now...  I'm finding it respects your time much less.  Still enjoying it though.

 

FF7R's padding didn't really bother me other than the combat rooms before Airbuster.

[crispy4000]

23 minutes ago, Xbob42 said:

Ol' Tetsuya "Lacking A Lot Of Context" Nomura

The context this post is lacking is everyone else who does this.  To set up sequels, next episodes, new entries, build intrigue, etc.  It's stock.

[Paperclyp]

46 minutes ago, crispy4000 said:

 

It probably won't.  Being good enough to replay is a tough sell for any RPG.

 

I'll probably rewatch some cutscenes or walk around Wall Market a bunch before the next one is out.  Hard mode seems like it could be good, but I feel like it'll just make the next game seem too easy at first.

 

 

 

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I doubt they'll pull a Sephiroth is a friend now, lol.  Nothing in FF7R indicates they're leaning in that direction.

 

Broken timelines could be a mixed bag on deaths.  Some characters could die in one and live on in another, and either in ways different than PS1 FF7.  If they go that route, I hope at least one timeline is willing to dip into FF6's scorched earth territory.

 

I actually replay RPGs quite a bit. Hell that might be most of what I do anymore. 

[Xbob42]

1 hour ago, crispy4000 said:

The context this post is lacking is everyone else who does this.  To set up sequels, next episodes, new entries, build intrigue, etc.  It's stock.

My greater point is Nomura never brings the context, he only sets up that you always need more. 

[Zaku3]

12 hours ago, Xbob42 said:

 The last chapter is what ruined it for me. What a load of Nomura bullshit it was. Otherwise it's a pretty damn good remake for the most part, as long as you ignore the part where they stretched a few hours of events into an entire game with lots and lots of what I consider total filler.

 

Apparently, according to the guy who's been leaking stuff, this'll also be when they announce the PC version.

 

It's gonna be an Epic exclusive I fear.

[Keyser_Soze]

26 minutes ago, Zaku3 said:

 

It's gonna be an Epic exclusive I fear.

 

Square has to make up that Avengers money somewhere!

[BloodyHell]

 

2 hours ago, Zaku3 said:

 

It's gonna be an Epic exclusive I fear.

Meh, who cares. It's no different than being exclusive to a console.

[Xbob42]

1 hour ago, BloodyHell said:

 

Meh, who cares. It's no different than being exclusive to a console.

That's true, actually. Just like when something is exclusive to a console, you either wait for a version you like or play an inferior shitty version with features missing!

[crispy4000]

10 minutes ago, Xbob42 said:

That's true, actually. Just like when something is exclusive to a console, you either wait for a version you like or play an inferior shitty version with features missing!

 

What features of FF7R will the EGS version be missing and why should you care?

... I won't defend Epic for buying exclusives or the lack of store updates.  But I have dropped $5 there on occasion when their $10 coupons come around, for single player stuff.  That's the only time when their mantra about being pro-developer + pro-consumer made any sense.

[Greatoneshere]

16 minutes ago, crispy4000 said:

 

What features of FF7R will the EGS version be missing and why should you care?

... I won't defend Epic for buying exclusives or the lack of store updates.  But I have dropped $5 there on occasion when their $10 coupons come around, for single player stuff.  That's the only time when their mantra about being pro-developer + pro-consumer made any sense.

 

Well for me the biggest problem I have with Epic (not enough to not use it, but a problem I have) is no trophies/achievements still. I use those to indicate whether I've beaten a game since PC saves particularly can get lost or shuffled around. I rely on those, to some extent.

[Xbob42]

For this game in particular? I imagine it'd depend largely on the individual as to what features would matter most to them, but for me...

 

1. No Steam overlay, which I use a ton

2. No Steam overlay means, for example, I can't use my PS5 controller natively like I do with Steam, which I've been using as my main controller mainly because my poor Xbox pads all seem to be suffering from some A button problems that the PS5 does not. My main input method not working is not a minor concern to me.

3. Most EGS titles lack achievements, I don't personally care too much about achievements, but I don't get a discount for missing features, so...

4. Still unsure of EGS cloud saves at this point, I'll assume they'll have them, but who knows.

5. No Steam forums for the inevitable tech troubles that come with every Square Enix release. Off to Reddit I go to get downvoted for daring to have a technical issue...

6. It's not sitting in my Steam library, which I always have open. It's in my janky ass EGS library, full of a bunch of free games I've already beaten on other platforms, and I can sort them by "recent" or "alphabetical." Wow. I can filter for "all" or "installed." Both the list and tile views are inferior and show less information. I've talked before about the nature of libraries, and how Steam consolidating my library is very handy, because I don't have every launcher open, so I'll forget about games on lesser used platforms, which sucks because I often have many older games that I want to play but forget about, because at 1,500+ games, that happens sometimes. And adding a non-Steam game is okayish (but not great) when it works, but these days it often doesn't.

7. Every time I open the piece of shit it pops up 3-4 little windows in the corner of my screen. One of them fades on its own, and when it does, the others move in to where it was. The ones that don't fade have tiny little Xs, if you click anywhere but the X, it's like a fucking porn ad where it loads the store page.

Fucking trash.

8. Uses an empty friend list instead of my real friend list on Steam, where I can just activate the overlay and chat with friends, which I do often because I like using social features. Guess I'll have to hope the Discord overlay works and go that route to replace native functionality on a different store.

 

I'm sure there's more, but the whole fucking thing is just inconvenient to me. From the second I load it up, through the process of buying games one-at-a-time because carts aren't a thing that stores have had for literally decades on the internet, to getting into the game and no longer having native, built-in support via things like the news tab and discussions tabs that are often extremely useful for getting information, be it related to major or minor tech support, about a beta branch patch (does EGS even have beta branches?) or just quick help if you're stuck on something. I dunno about you guys, but I use the shit out of the Steam forums for these kinds of things because they're right there. Hell, you Google a tech issue with a game and there's a 95% chance you'll get a Steam forum result.

 

And in return for this pile of headaches? Fucking nothing. I get NOTHING. Forget what features are missing that I care about, what features does this shit ass store provide that I can't get elsewhere? I'm the one paying for the goddamn game, entice ME. I guess if you get really silly, you can say the store provides the game, but paying out millions of dollars so you can't play it on a better storefront isn't a feature, it's an indictment. 

[Keyser_Soze]

All the missing features of the Epic Games Store is savings that goes right into the Developer's pockets! And you as a gamer should feel warm and fuzzy having sacrificed your user experience so the devs can make more money

[crispy4000]

@Xbob42

 

1.  Launch EGS through Steam.

2. DS4Windows.  Or Launch EGS through Steam.

3. I don't care about achievements either.

4. They have cloud saves now.

5. You answered it yourself: search on Reddit.  Not hard.

6. Use Playnite/GoG Galaxy/Launchbox.  Steam library is hardly ubiquitous with how fractured the PC landscape is now.  There's better launchers than Valve's.  Plus, you can still configure them to launch stuff automatically from Steam to get the overlay and DS4 support.

7. Disable push notifications.  It's in the settings.

8. See 1 and 6.

 

IMO, there's too much free good stuff off Steam to stick only to it.  Look into launcher alternatives that automatically aggregate.  It makes adding EGS/Amazon/etc friction-less.

[Xbob42]

I see you didn't really read what I typed, since "launching EGS (and most other launcher) games through Steam is janky AF" was one of my problems. And I'm not getting some dumbass secondary program like DS4Windows because EGS needs exclusives. I just don't care that much. I'm more than happy to wait for a Steam version. I do collect my free games, because why not? If they want to throw free shit at me, I'm not gonna complain. But that's not gonna get me to buy their 8 Kingdom Hearts collections for full price, either.

These are the reasons I personally care, if they don't bother you, that's cool. I just don't see any reason to throw myself at inferior experiences to play games like Kingdom Hearts years after launch so I can get them a little earlier than on a platform I actually enjoy. I have a hard enough time convincing myself to actually choose a game most of the time without a little mountain of headaches to throw into the mix.

[crispy4000]

6 minutes ago, Xbob42 said:

I see you didn't really read what I typed, since "launching EGS (and most other launcher) games through Steam is janky AF" was one of my problems. And I'm not getting some dumbass secondary program like DS4Windows because EGS needs exclusives. I just don't care that much. I'm more than happy to wait for a Steam version. I do collect my free games, because why not? If they want to throw free shit at me, I'm not gonna complain. But that's not gonna get me to buy their 8 Kingdom Hearts collections for full price, either.

No, I did read it.  It's not janky when it's done automatically through another launcher handling the back end.

 

DS4Windows is just another option, should you want to be more direct about emulating a MS pad at the system level.

[Xbob42]

I guess that might be true, I have yet to try another launcher because that just sounds like a whole 'nother level of headaches. But maybe I will if I get the free time this weekend. I just hate the thought of getting yet another program to fix a problem that only exists so other people can make more money while passing 0 of those savings on to me, all while diminishing the features I do get to enjoy.

[crispy4000]

11 minutes ago, Xbob42 said:

I guess that might be true, I have yet to try another launcher because that just sounds like a whole 'nother level of headaches. But maybe I will if I get the free time this weekend. I just hate the thought of getting yet another program to fix a problem that only exists so other people can make more money while passing 0 of those savings on to me, all while diminishing the features I do get to enjoy.

 

The problem also exists because there's actual good reasons to have those other launchers now. (ie: free games)  I've looked into the aggregate launchers precisely because I am such a mooch.  Plenty of people don't give Epic a dime.

 

I feel for people that still manually import their outside stuff to Steam.  It's not as manageable nowadays.

[Xbob42]

All this free game shit would've won me over a whole lot better in the 20+ years I was broke as hell and could barely ever afford to buy a game. I mean, I'm still mostly broke but I can generally get a game when I want, so like 2/3rds or more of my EGS library is stuff I've already played. Now if they had given me the entire KH collection for free... 

Actually, I bet they'd make a lot more KH sales if they gave one of the collections away for free, since there's 4 different fairly high-priced purchases going up at once. Hook 'em with one on the house.