b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Rudy already let that slip during his rant last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSpreader Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Spoiler alert! He's gonna get away with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbiggsly Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 45 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: Spoiler alert! He's gonna get away with it! Seven more years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, 2user1cup said: Spoiler alert! He's gonna get away with it! It's not a spoiler if it's too obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Let’s be real here; Peed until through in-between nightwalkers. Or, we can abbreviate it to P.U.T.I.N. for short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 19 hours ago, osxmatt said: I can’t wait until tomorrow when it’s revealed that Trump told Ukraine he would only release military aid if they assisted him investigating the Joe Biden conspiracy. And on that note, US military aid was just reinstated to Ukraine, today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MarSolo Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Biden is going to be the nominee and this is going to be hovering over BIDEN somehow the entire campaign while we ignore everything Trump does. Yes, I'm pessimistic. But I'm honestly okay with it now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Warren is leading while Pelosi and Schumer are cowering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Go Liz. Nancy--Impeach him you fucking worthless bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, thewhyteboar said: The Democrats are either unwilling or unable to take control of the political narrative. And I don't just mean in broad strokes, I mean on a fine detail level. E.g. "catch and release" was originally a Republican talking point, but has become a standard way to talk about that topic. Republicans keep winning in part because the Democrats let them frame the conversation because, as they argue, they're afraid it'd give the Republicans ammunition if they actually tried to control the conversation. If the parties were flipped here Republicans would have impeached ages ago and constantly been putting the Democrats on the defensive about respect for the rule of law and what-not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason said: The Democrats are either unwilling or unable to take control of the political narrative. And I don't just mean in broad strokes, I mean on a fine detail level. E.g. "catch and release" was originally a Republican talking point, but has become a standard way to talk about that topic. Republicans keep winning in part because the Democrats let them frame the conversation because, as they argue, they're afraid it'd give the Republicans ammunition if they actually tried to control the conversation. If the parties were flipped here Republicans would have impeached ages ago and constantly been putting the Democrats on the defensive about respect for the rule of law and what-not. I actually had this very discussion with a friend last week. I argued that the reason why progressives lose is because they let the other side define the argument and react to that rather than defining the argument themselves and pushing back against false narratives. I don't understand why but that's what they do. You really have to start asking if Dems are being deliberately complicit at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 8 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: I actually had this very discussion with a friend last week. I argued that the reason why progressives lose is because they let the other side define the argument and react to that rather than defining the argument themselves and pushing back against false narratives. I don't understand why but that's what they do. You really have to start asking if Dems are being deliberately complicit at this point. Democratic centrists, not progressives. It's because Republican extremism isn't a threat to the economy in the eyes of Republican donors, on the other hand Democrat donors are just as interested in keeping progressive economic policy in check as they are with Republican social conservativism. "Socially liberal, economic conservative" is the democratic donor base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 And it's barely "socially liberal" at that. Ask that donor base what they really think of BLM and let's see how quickly that facade drops. What MLK said about white "liberals" was true then and it's true now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: And it's barely "socially liberal" at that. Ask that donor base what they really think of BLM and let's see how quickly that facade drops. What MLK said about white "liberals" was true then and it's true now. Damn you literally must have been listening to our conversation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thewhyteboar Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Pelosi's inaction will lose elections. Why vote Democrat when they don't do shit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 50 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Pelosi's inaction will lose elections. Why vote Democrat when they don't do shit? VoTe BlUe No MaTtEr WhO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, thewhyteboar said: Pelosi's inaction will lose elections. Why vote Democrat when they don't do shit? Beating Trump requires the Democratic Party to change, so why change when he'll be gone in 2024? Then everything will go back to normal with Pence vs Booker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 What makes you think Booker would fare better in 2024? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, Jose said: What makes you think Booker would fare better in 2024? I don't, but the party is stupid enough to think he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Looks like Trump is planning a coup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I can think of two who wouldn’t! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: I can think of two who wouldn’t! They missing the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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