Jason Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Amazon adding ads to Prime Video in 2024 unless you pay $2.99 extra ARSTECHNICA.COM Prime Video subscribers will see ads unless they pay extra. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Ads feel increasingly inevitable and the lack of them is the thing that I'll miss the most from the golden age of streaming. It's long been a cliche to note how streaming services have become the new cable, but that's usually in the context of their total price as compared to cable. It's true that if you collect a bunch of these services it's as much or more than cable was, but even at those prices most of the streamers are still being subsidized and will need ads to get to a point of profitability. I expect every ad-free service to add ad-supported tiers, and for the ad-free charge to get increasingly expensive as streamers continue to eat market share and get better at the ads business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I wonder how that’ll work with an annual Prime membership. Will “Prime (Ad-free)” be an additional channel to subscribe to? Also kinda funny how this blurs things with their Freevee platform. Join Prime Video to… still have ads, I guess. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I almost made a thread about this, but at this point we almost need a general thread on the death knells of the golden age of streaming. At this point it seems like every service is having 2 or even 3 nut punch announcements per year. I mean, it's been going downhill for a while now, but it has really accelerated in the past year or two. Netflix kills account sharing then adds an ad supported plan. Hulu and Disney Plus both increase to 18 a month for ad free plans. Paramount and Peacock both went up in price. All of that happened just this year(though I think rumblings about account sharing started in '22). I still think people who try to snarkily talk about the good old days of cable are forgetting just how badly cable sucked.....but as far as comparing nowadays to the one two punch of having Netflix/Hulu circa 2016(and add in Prime Video because you have Prime for the free shipping regardless) it's a mess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Ads on streaming are worse too... they are crazy repetitive, completely unskipable... sometimes glitch out and cause your stream to stop or go screwy... shows either don't have proper ad breaks so they just come in at weird random times, or if they are old network TV shows, the ad breaks don't line up with the actual ad breaks... When I had cable and TiVo, skipping ads was butter smooth and they didn't even bother me. Ads on streaming SUPER SUCK. We were enjoying all the companies happily lose money to try and get a foot in the door, but eventually no one wants to lose money and then the BS starts to creep in... The truth of the situation is that the world cannot support 15 different pay streaming services. It's not a tenable situation. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 The next thing they are going to do is try and figure out ways to get people to stop hopping from service to service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 6 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said: A real shame rarbg shut down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Jason said: A real shame rarbg shut down. Yeah it was the best. But there are others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 Just now, GeneticBlueprint said: Yeah it was the best. But there are others. What are these websites, so I can make sure I don't accidentally go to them? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 So Amazon, one of the world's largest companies & wealthiest, cannot even guarantee 2-Day shipping anymore for Prime members, but now you have to pay essentially a luxury tax atop of your membership (which isn't even getting taken care of right to begin with) all so we don't have to be hassled with more BS ... wow completely & totally fucked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Jason said: What are these websites, so I can make sure I don't accidentally go to them? I too would like to know what these are... so that I might avoid them at all costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 You know with all this talk of avoiding stumbling on sites, I find it funny that my mom is ahead of the game in this regard. I got her a fire stick and she has some friend who hooked her up with all these pirate streams and stuff that they put on the stick. She will watch it with no issue, which makes it funny that younger people are kind of hung up on the idea. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Overseer + Plex = near perfection 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: I too would like to know what these are... so that I might avoid them at all costs I, too, would love to know which sites of these... to avoid... for moral reasons. It sucks rarbg shut down. It's kind of wild to me that the film/tv industry basically all but fucking killed piracy. For years. You used to be able to get damn near anything pirated before the damn thing even came out, now finding anything even remotely resembling good quality from a site that is anything close to trustworthy is damn near impossible. Meanwhile, the music industry just adapted. Sure, not everyone is happy under the new Spotify empire, but piracy in music is all but eradicated and has been for a decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 The only good torrent sites are invite only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Plex works if someone shares with you, you can simply watch or download for later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Air_Delivery said: The only good torrent sites are invite only. Exactly, this. I use a private invite-only torrent website, and it is excellent. Full downloads >>> potentially laggy streams with shitty bitrates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 The only thing is with invite sites you basically need a seedbox unless 1) You have awesome ISP upload and don't mind running you PC 24 hrs because you have to keep your dl/ul ratio good. 2) You live in a country that doesn't care about piracy. While in the US you won't go to jail or get sued you might eventually get cut off from your ISP with enough violations. So you would need a VPN. My seedbox runs me 16 bucks a month although it can run Plex over the internet much faster than my local server. So its still a monthly bill and my local server with 4 18TB HDDs was a significant initial cost that I could have bought every streaming service for years with. However with my setup I can get movies that aren't on any service. I can also play at much higher bitrates than anything offered by streaming services and I'm not beholden to random shit that Amazon or Netflix pull. I buy Amazon Prime and I haven't used their streaming service once. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I have outsourced all my pirating to my brother. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 @Fizzzzle My friends brother has an uncle who said to get a torrent, they have to reach out to another galaxy. Maybe put a .to at the end. I heard it’s not as good as rarbg but it’s something i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Air_Delivery said: The only thing is with invite sites you basically need a seedbox unless 1) You have awesome ISP upload and don't mind running you PC 24 hrs because you have to keep your dl/ul ratio good. 2) You live in a country that doesn't care about piracy. While in the US you won't go to jail or get sued you might eventually get cut off from your ISP with enough violations. So you would need a VPN. My seedbox runs me 16 bucks a month although it can run Plex over the internet much faster than my local server. So its still a monthly bill and my local server with 4 18TB HDDs was a significant initial cost that I could have bought every streaming service for years with. I am fortunate that I can do number 1 so I don't bother with a seedbox but I do use a VPN for protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 12 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: You know with all this talk of avoiding stumbling on sites, I find it funny that my mom is ahead of the game in this regard. I got her a fire stick and she has some friend who hooked her up with all these pirate streams and stuff that they put on the stick. She will watch it with no issue, which makes it funny that younger people are kind of hung up on the idea. 🤔 We've long known that boomers have no conscience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Nokra said: We've long known that boomers have no conscience. My dad had a cable descrambler in the 80s so piracy is a family tradition. Only thing I don't pirate anymore are games cause its too much of a hassle. Well and music because a Spotify family plan is cheap and convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Air_Delivery said: My dad had a cable descrambler in the 80s so piracy is a family tradition. Only thing I don't pirate anymore are games cause its too much of a hassle. Well and music because a Spotify family plan is cheap and convenient. Yeah, I don't pirate modern games either, huge pain in the ass. I do emulate older games a lot though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Only thing I'll pirate is movies and shows. I just don't care enough. I keep my Netflix and Hulu subs, but the rest, fuck it. I buy all my books and games because those are hobbies I love. I'm not big on music. I buy stuff on iTunes once in a while, but I usually just listen to the radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 hour ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Only thing I'll pirate is movies and shows. I just don't care enough. I keep my Netflix and Hulu subs, but the rest, fuck it. I buy all my books and games because those are hobbies I love. I'm not big on music. I buy stuff on iTunes once in a while, but I usually just listen to the radio. Even with music, I pay for YouTube premium, which comes with YouTube music, which has all of the music Spotify does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 hour ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Only thing I'll pirate is movies and shows. I just don't care enough. I keep my Netflix and Hulu subs, but the rest, fuck it. I buy all my books and games because those are hobbies I love. I'm not big on music. I buy stuff on iTunes once in a while, but I usually just listen to the radio. I'm a member of myanonamouse, one of the best book torrent sites on the web, but I'll still buy from authors I like. However I'll torrent the shit out of programming language books and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I have and frequently add to a large physical media collection and am subscribed to a handful of streaming services so when I have to sail the high seas I don’t really feel any guilt over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Quote Dear Prime member, We are writing to you today about an upcoming change to your Prime Video experience. Starting January 29, Prime Video movies and TV shows will include limited advertisements. This will allow us to continue investing in compelling content and keep increasing that investment over a long period of time. We aim to have meaningfully fewer ads than linear TV and other streaming TV providers. No action is required from you, and there is no change to the current price of your Prime membership. We will also offer a new ad-free option for an additional $2.99 per month* that you can sign up for Prime is a very compelling value. Prime members enjoy a wide range of shopping, savings, and entertainment benefits, including: blah blah blah Just got the email. I guess Bezos doesn't have a big enough yacht. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 9/22/2023 at 3:12 PM, ort said: The next thing they are going to do is try and figure out ways to get people to stop hopping from service to service. When this becomes a thing, I'm holding you personally responsible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 I also just got the email. My only response was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 I don’t watch anything on Prime. I only have it for the free shipping for myself and the rest of my family that are on my account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Brian said: I don’t watch anything on Prime. I only have it for the free shipping for myself and the rest of my family that are on my account. Kind of the same for me. I watch stuff on prime occasionally but the main reason I got it was for the shipping. Still no excuse to start showing ads on what is essentially the most expensive streaming service. (Technically it is cheaper if you pay it all up front but pay monthly and it's on the higher end) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, GeneticBlueprint said: I also just got the email. My only response was I was just watching Home Alone 2 and Tim Curry has only a 10 minute cameo. However, he does such an amazing job in it that he actually makes the movie. Ashame he had a massive stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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