thewhyteboar Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 15 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: At least with those, you get guys wearing cool uniforms and swanky shades on your TV for about 5 minutes while they read their manifesto and then it's back to regular programming. There’s a very good version of Julius Caesar that is set in an African nation during a coup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: There’s a very good version of Julius Caesar that is set in an African nation during a coup. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Bahahahahaha 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 So this whole thing was a setup by BoJo to make himself look good in comparison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jason said: So this whole thing was a setup by BoJo to make himself look good in comparison? It’s this tweet but BoJo speaking about British PMs: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I'll see your BoJo and raise you one Theresa May: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Can someone give me the tl;dr of how a political party can just keep swapping out who is in charge consequence free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said: Can someone give me the tl;dr of how a political party can just keep swapping out who is in charge consequence free? In system like that of the UK, the voting public votes for the party and not for the individual politician. This means that the leader of that party -- who in this case happens to the be prime minister -- can be swapped out ad nauseum because there is no change in the actual ruling party. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said: Can someone give me the tl;dr of how a political party can just keep swapping out who is in charge consequence free? If you thought the American way of electing their highest office holder was undemocratic, hold my room temperature beer! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said: Can someone give me the tl;dr of how a political party can just keep swapping out who is in charge consequence free? Imagine if the US Speaker of the House was President. Newt Gingrich, Dennis Hastert, Nancy Pelosi, John Boehner, Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi, probably Kevin McCarthy. That clown show is the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Imagine if the US Speaker of the House was President. Newt Gingrich, Dennis Hastert, Nancy Pelosi, John Boehner, Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi, probably Kevin McCarthy. That clown show is the UK. Alternatively, look at Canada for how it generally works better. Tenure of last 5 PMs (1984-present): Trudeau (Lib): 7 years (current) - 3 victories Harper (Con): 9.5 years - 3 victories Martin (Lib): 2 years - 1 victory Chretien (Lib): 10 years - 3 victories Mulroney (Con): 8.5 years - 2 victories It's actually ironic, as the UK has a much better parliamentary democracy in terms of how free their MPs are. Canada is much more party-centralized, with the PM/leader able to control members. In the UK they are much more likely to do what they want, including sacking the leader. Both have pros and cons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Things are still going smashingly. The Tories are attempting to get a vote on a fracking bill and this is happening in Parliament's voting lobby: Quote I’ve never seen scenes like it at the entrance to a voting lobby. Tories on open warfare. Jostling and Rees Mogg shouting at his colleagues. Whips screaming at Tories. They are done and should call a general election. Two Tory whips dragging people in. Shocking. Quote Just watched the Deputy Prime Minister practically pick up a hesitant Tory MP and march him into the Government lobby. Astonishing. Quote BREAKING: Tory MPs now claiming that chief whip Wendy Morton and her deputy have both resigned - after fracking vote shambles. Total chaos engulfing govt. Quote Extraordinary stuff happening here during the vote on fracking which is apparently “not a confidence vote”. I’ve just witnessed one Tory member in tears being manhandled into the lobby to vote against our motion to continue the ban on fracking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Lol 3rd world countries must be giggling with delight at current western foibles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Home Secretary resigned, Chief Whip's resignation is unclear...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Jwheel86 said: That's such an English "outburst". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 This explains so much honestly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Really hard to keep up with what's going on at this point, so I'm just gonna post this again... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Looool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 She gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Aaaaaaaand she's gone. The lettuce won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The lettuce won. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Lettuce give thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 Surely the best way to find a capable Prime Minister is to limit the search to a single week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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outsida Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 The conservatives are about install a 3rd PM in as many months; No need for a general election! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 Also...at this point the next person won't (and can't) be any better; the only people who will be willing to take the job are those who simply want it on record that they were PM. The actual job is poisoned, now, as will be their career. Really, if King Charles were smart he'd just call a new election, lol. It would immediately boost his numbers in popularity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 Also, a handy conversion for Americans: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 19 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Things are still going smashingly. The Tories are attempting to get a vote on a fracking bill and this is happening in Parliament's voting lobby: So do their Whips carry actual whips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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