Greatoneshere Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Is there a moratorium on votes of no confidence in the UK (or whatever it is that gets PM's to resign there)? Because it sounds like it's time for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Is there a moratorium on votes of no confidence in the UK? Because it sounds like it's time for one. To the best of my knowledge, no such moratorium exists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 It's a shame Brexit went through, now they can't get bailed out by Greece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 21 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: To the best of my knowledge, no such moratorium exists. Ultimately, how do we see this playing out, realistically then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Ultimately, how do we see this playing out, realistically then? I really have no idea. I simply cannot imagine the Tories dumping her and the Chancellor so early in their tenure. I'm going to wager that they'll accept whatever U-turn she and the Chancellor come up with and hope to ride things out through the year-end holiday season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer.tv Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 I could see Kwarteng stepping aside as some atonement, but mumblings of back benchers are if there isn’t a u-turn, or evidence this change to the economy is working, MPs will vote to change the law so Truss can receive a no-confidence vote - then really, it has to be a general election, otherwise that’s just (even more) ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, gamer.tv said: I could see Kwarteng stepping aside as some atonement, but mumblings of back benchers are if there isn’t a u-turn, or evidence this change to the economy is working, MPs will vote to change the law so Truss can receive a no-confidence vote - then really, it has to be a general election, otherwise that’s just (even more) ridiculous. Is it an actual no-confidence vote in the Commons or changing the rules governing the 1922 Committee within the Conservative Party where she would be replaced internally as party leader (and hence as prime minister)? As far as I'm aware, there really are no legal requirements governing an actual vote of confidence/no-confidence in the Commons which if successful would automatically trigger a general election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer.tv Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 By that, I would assume 1922. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Make no mistake - the name of the United States Federal Reserve Bank is being cursed in many corners of the world right now as per this article from the Financial Times from a day ago: The world is starting to hate the Fed WWW.MONEYCONTROL.COM It is Joe Biden, not America’s central bank, who has the tools to cushion the global blow caused by domestic policy Quote A French leader once called the dollar America’s “exorbitant privilege”. Today’s world might go for blunter language. Vector of pain, anyone? Green monster? Whatever we call it, the strong dollar’s victims have one culprit in mind — the Federal Reserve. Even Josep Borrell, the EU’s foreign policy chief, is joining in. This week he warned that the Fed was exporting recession in the same way the euro crisis was imposed by Germany’s post-2008 dictates. Much of the world is now in danger of becoming Greece. Such finger-pointing is mostly unfair to the Fed. The US central bank clung for too long to its “team transitory” dismissal of inflation and is thus tightening at speed to restore its credibility. But it is only following the rules. It is hard enough to achieve full US employment with low inflation. Adding foreigners’ wellbeing to its mandate would make the job paralysingly complex. The Fed is nevertheless the engine of global contraction. Monetary pain is America’s fastest growing export. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Make no mistake - the name of the United States Federal Reserve Bank is being cursed in many corners of the world right now as per this article from the Financial Times from a day ago: The world is starting to hate the Fed WWW.MONEYCONTROL.COM It is Joe Biden, not America’s central bank, who has the tools to cushion the global blow caused by domestic policy Behold the field in which I grow my fucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 It appears that the Chancellor of the Exchequer has been sacked. UK's Truss has fired Kwarteng - BBC WWW.REUTERS.COM British Prime Minister Liz Truss has fired her finance minister Kwasi Kwarteng, the BBC reported on Friday, shortly before she is expected to scrap parts of his economic package in a bid to survive the market... Is anyone truly surprised that the black guy is taking the fall for this debacle? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Basically all I remember from my comparative politics course in undergrad is that the Chancellor of the Exchequer is weirdly the most important position in the British government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Very soon it’s going to be that bit from Monty python and the holy grail where the person responsible for the sacking have themselves been sacked 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, Chris- said: Basically all I remember from my comparative politics course in undergrad is that the Chancellor of the Exchequer is weirdly the most important position in the British government. They do control the purse strings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 For the record, there have been some long-simmering rumors that Kwarteng and Truss engaged in a bit o' extra-marital shagging at one point. Or as this puts it: Quote Commentator on Sky News wondered whether if on the way out, “Kwasi would hole the PM below the water-line.” Which is EXACTLY what he did in this parting letter where he pins the mess on her: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Commentator on Sky News wondered whether if on the way out, “Kwasi would hole the PM below the water-line.” This makes no sense why is the UK an actual country?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: This makes no sense why is the UK an actual country?? It's a nautical reference. They are wondering if Kwasi will turn on the PM release some juicy details about what's going on for example. If what he says is damning enough it might cause a "hole below the water line." Which is a reference to your ship taking a penetrating hit that is beneath the line at which you ship sits in the water. Such hits are bad because of flooding and since the hole is gonna spend atleast some time underwater it will cause more flooding and be harder to patch up then a penetrating hit that is far above thw water line. I'd like to shout out Drachinifel for information like this and World of Warships for giving me a love for naval combat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 28 minutes ago, Zaku3 said: It's a nautical reference. They are wondering if Kwasi will turn on the PM release some juicy details about what's going on for example. If what he says is damning enough it might cause a "hole below the water line." Which is a reference to your ship taking a penetrating hit that is beneath the line at which you ship sits in the water. Such hits are bad because of flooding and since the hole is gonna spend atleast some time underwater it will cause more flooding and be harder to patch up then a penetrating hit that is far above thw water line. This is absolutely correct, but it's just the phrasing is rather amusing within the context of the alleged affair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Having gotten the joke explained to me, it is actually very funny. The whole bit right here is so very British. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Having gotten the joke explained to me, it is actually very funny. The whole bit right here is so very British. EVERYTHING about this situation is straight out of an episode of the old British comedy show "Yes, Minister" / "Yes, Prime Minister". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Why aren't Whatsapp leaks a major component of US politics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Why aren't Whatsapp leaks a major component of US politics? Because Americans as a whole don't tend to use WhatsApp. "You need a lie down!!" - that's a very British way to saying that "you need to take a nap". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Britain should try hiring that Greek Valve economist to transition them to a hat-based economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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outsida Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Looks like the UK is having “Truss issues” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 21 hours ago, outsida said: Looks like the UK is having “Truss issues” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 So far today: The new Chancellor of the Exchequer has reversed practically all of the tax measures introduced by his predecessor which were the catalyst for the current crisis. The Prime Minister is a no-show at today's Question Time in the House of Commons and sent a Conservative MP to act as a substitute This substitute Conservative MP said that the PM had important business to attend to, but couldn't disclose exactly what that business is. One Labour MP said that the PM is no longer in power (which is more or less the truth) and that there has been a "coup". The substitute Conservative MP replied that there hasn't been a coup (how reassuring!) Another Labour MP said that the PM is "cowering under a desk waiting for it all to go away". The substitute Conservative MP assured everyone that the PM "is not under a desk". This is the actual BBC News timeline summary: 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 Need King Charles to enter the House with a big mace and just start crushing in heads. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Schrodinger's government, I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 The PM has entered the chamber of the House of Commons...and is just sitting there while the substitute Conservative MP continues to answer questions: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Need King Charles to enter the House with a big mace and just start crushing in heads. Much as I love this image, I fear the old bean would struggle mightily to lift a can of mace, let alone that particular implement of war! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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