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[skillzdadirecta]

Real life experts on a particular subject opining about works of fiction? It's become a popular thing on youtube and fan sites... "Real Life Navy Pilot discusses Top Gun" or "Real Life Martial Artists break down SIFU". MOVIES AND VIDEOGAMES ARE NOT REAL! And they aren't even TRYING to be! I would be more interested in experts discussing a documentary or something that is intended to be true to life or as accurate as possible, but fucking Top Gun?! I'm not expecting that movie to be even remotely realistic... just entertaining.

[Kal-El814]

I think they can be fun when they’re not taken seriously; I really like Legal Eagle’s reviews of legal systems on movies / shows / games.

[Mr.Vic20]

1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Real life experts on a particular subject opining about works of fiction? It's become a popular thing on youtube and fan sites... "Real Life Navy Pilot discusses Top Gun" or "Real Life Martial Artists break down SIFU". MOVIES AND VIDEOGAMES ARE NOT REAL! And they aren't even TRYING to be! I would be more interested in experts discussing a documentary or something that is intended to be true to life or as accurate as possible, but fucking Top Gun?! I'm not expecting that movie to be even remotely realistic... just entertaining.

My father was an "Expert" on everything we ever watch, so I get how this can be annoying. My rule for watching movies and shows:

 

Is the world's "logic & Mechanics" consistently used once established. What I can't stand, and what I typically take most umbrage with is character development in films and TV. Please don't establish a character and then make them do something they would not with a really well demonstration reason for transition in their behavior. 

 

Good example of this: The Wire - it knows its characters and works the stories around them. They react almost always in a way true to their character, and the show is one of the best because of it!

 

Bad Example: Most prime time dramas 

[Bloodporne]

My ex was a total menace to watch anything with. She's a med student and would interrupt everything we watched to tear apart the inaccuracy of some hospital, injury or whatever scene. It got to a point where I remember us watching an X-Files episode and I saw medical equipment in the background and already felt the rage rise in me lol

[skillzdadirecta]

1 minute ago, Mr.Vic20 said:

Please don't establish a character and then make them do something they would not with a really well demonstration reason for transition in their behavior. 

That's a function of the quality of the writing, directing and acting... all pillars of filmmaking and all are fair game. That's not quite what I'm talking about. Growing up I had uncles who were kind of like your father and that shit was annoying as hell... Like I don't need you to point out that Godzilla is really a guy in a rubber suit or that those guys in the Kung Fu movies are on wires... I'm fucking six years old asshole!

[skillzdadirecta]

3 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

My ex was a total menace to watch anything with. She's a med student and would interrupt everything we watched to tear apart the inaccuracy of some hospital, injury or whatever scene. It got to a point where I remember us watching an X-Files episode and I saw medical equipment in the background and already felt the rage rise in me lol

I have a friend who is a life long martial artist and he and I were even trying to make a martial arts flick together... he was annoying as HELL to watch martial arts movies with. Especially since I trained a little myself, not as much as he did mind you, but he always had to "show off" his knowledge.

[johnny]

i enjoy learning about the science stuff in movies so when they say something is/isnt accurate it's nice. if something is inaccurate idc as long as it fits in the movie.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

18 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Real life experts on a particular subject opining about works of fiction? It's become a popular thing on youtube and fan sites... "Real Life Navy Pilot discusses Top Gun" or "Real Life Martial Artists break down SIFU". MOVIES AND VIDEOGAMES ARE NOT REAL! And they aren't even TRYING to be! I would be more interested in experts discussing a documentary or something that is intended to be true to life or as accurate as possible, but fucking Top Gun?! I'm not expecting that movie to be even remotely realistic... just entertaining.

 

I can quite honestly say that I've never watched a single one of those types of videos because I well and truly don't give a damn.

[skillzdadirecta]

Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

I can quite honestly say that I've never watched a single one of those types of videos because I well and truly don't give a damn.

They can be well and truly irritating. I've stopped watching them... they add nothing.

[Keyser_Soze]

Opera singer reacts to Devin Townsend!

[stepee]

Kevin Spacey reacts to American Beauty!

[Brian]

The real meta is reacting to a video of someone reacting to your video of you reacting to something. 

[Moa]

Youtube keeps trying to make me watch these videos and I wish it would stop.

 

The worst part is they give me the impulse to never talk about anything I know anything about ever, and only speculate wildly on things I have no knowledge of to avoid being obnoxious.

[skillzdadirecta]

7 minutes ago, Moa said:

Youtube keeps trying to make me watch these videos and I wish it would stop.

Same here.

[Bloodporne]

1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said:

I have a friend who is a life long martial artist and he and I were even trying to make a martial arts flick together... he was annoying as HELL to watch martial arts movies with. Especially since I trained a little myself, not as much as he did mind you, but he always had to "show off" his knowledge.

Man, I've done Muay Thai almost nonstop since about 2009 and martial arts nerds are out of control! The conversations I've overhead at the gym or at events/fights, it's over the top. Like yeah, no shit him running up walls and jumping over 20ft high scaffolding in Ong Bak isn't "Muay Thai", it's a movie. People also don't fly around on wires when getting into street fights and lo and behold, it's still awesome. 

 

I remember a dude at my gym was always trashing Chuck Norris randomly when movies came up (what year is it anyway!?) like somehow the shit he was seen doing on screen in Walker Texas Ranger was the extent of his actual martial arts skill. Silly, silly. It's a entertainment about and involving martial arts, not a documentary or actual match. If you want pure martial arts, watch a fight. 

[skillzdadirecta]

11 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

remember a dude at my gym was always trashing Chuck Norris randomly when movies came up

And say what you want about Chuck Norris, he's a legit Martial Artist who actually knew how to fight. Was ex-military and was a champion professional fighter BEFORE becoming a movie star. That's why I don't pay much attention to martial arts nerds. They are pretty knowledgeable in a gym but most have NEVER been in an actual fight. 

[Bloodporne]

19 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

And say what you want about Chuck Norris, he's a legit Martial Artist who actually knew how to fight. Was ex-military and was a champion professional fighter BEFORE becoming a movie star. That's why I don't pay much attention to martial arts nerds. They are pretty knowledgeable in a gym but most have NEVER been in an actual fight. 

This is a fun little video

 

 

[TheLeon]

My dad would watch every single medical drama on TV just to complain about how inaccurate and implausible they are. I think House is what eventually killed him. 
 

Can we blame Neil deGrasse Tyson for popularizing this kind of “criticism”? That’s some of the most annoying shit to me. Sorry the placement of the stars in the sky isn’t accurate to the exact date of when this scene is taking place. Can’t believe the director let such an egregious error slip by! 

[Bacon]

4 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

I can quite honestly say that I've never watched a single one of those types of videos because I well and truly don't give a damn.

Yeah. I thought this was about like when they do it at the start of movies or something. Like, there will be works of fiction the lead with some dude giving his expert opinion then the real movie starts after a fade to black. I've never watched anything like the OP unless it was inside the movie or show. 

[Bacon]

41 minutes ago, TheLeon said:

Can we blame Neil deGrasse Tyson for popularizing this kind of “criticism”?

[Keyser_Soze]

7 hours ago, ManUtdRedDevils said:

The real meta is reacting to a video of someone reacting to your video of you reacting to something. 

 

I feel like he's done it before, but just off the top of my head whoever this guy is, reacted to a list (basically a reaction) of someone else. But since he invented the whole reacts genre he gets a pass.

 

Spoiler

 

 

[Bacon]

 

[legend]

I don't really care for those videos. I also don't care that a wide swath of movies and shows are unrealistic if they wear it on their sleeve (e.g., a comic book movie). I do, however, feel somewhat annoyed when a movie that purports to be more grounded makes gross errors when it doesn't even have to. Like, maybe just ask an expert for something that would make sense when writing? And beyond that, I find the common resistance to do something grounded sad. The universe is full of wonder in its own right, and it would do us good to share that and explore it more in works than we do. And even for more "mundane" things, like common jobs, maybe capture it accurately and also capture passion people have for it and you'll get more people interested in the topic. For example, one of the reasons I love Halt and Catch Fire is because they are actually pretty faithful to software and computer engineering, yet manage to convey the passion people in the field feel for it.

[Bacon]

The only really unrealistic thing I generally dislike is time travel. I don't like it in FFXIV and I don't like it in Endgame. However, I like Doctor Who and Back to the Future. The difference is that I feel time travel was written to escape a writer's hole in the former. I don't think I have ever really liked it in a video game. 

[Keyser_Soze]

Actually I figured out what I was thinking of it. It was Justin Wong reacting to a video of Max talking about something. So that's the meta commentary

 

 

[Fizzzzle]

 

I enjoy those videos, as long as they aren't going like "this movie is trash because ____ is wrong" or whatever.

 

I'm a big history nut. Historical inaccuracy doesn't bother me of the story is good, but that doesn't mean I don't like a historian explaining what was wrong and giving context.

 

I suppose giving context is the key, and that goes for all "expert breaks down" or "[whatever] reacts" channels/videos. 99% of them are garbage, but if someone can break something down for me and provide context that I didn't have before, then it enriches my experience.

[Bloodporne]

What WILL bother me is frequent anachronisms. I recently watched the Wu Tang show on Hulu and dude...it was absurd. They have like one '80s Toyota in the foreground and in the background you'll have three 2010s Chevy pickup trucks and some Williamsburg hipster walking by. 

[5timechamp]

It depends on the topic and if there is legit insight… but I avoid those mostly since even experts contradict each other based on their experiences..

 

I get more annoyed by the whole “we had advisors to ensure authenticity”… then the advisors say “it didnt or wouldnt happen like this but for the sake of the story”… 

 

Lone Survivor film was real bad about this adding more fiction to an already fictionalized story…

 

I hate Cinemasins but admit to watching Cinemawins since it generally points out stuff I may miss…

 

 

[Brian]

This is the quality content I like. 

[Fizzzzle]

1 hour ago, 5timechamp said:

It depends on the topic and if there is legit insight… but I avoid those mostly since even experts contradict each other based on their experiences..

 

I get more annoyed by the whole “we had advisors to ensure authenticity”… then the advisors say “it didnt or wouldnt happen like this but for the sake of the story”… 

 

Lone Survivor film was real bad about this adding more fiction to an already fictionalized story…

 

I hate Cinemasins but admit to watching Cinemawins since it generally points out stuff I may miss…

 

 

I watch cinema sins sometimes, but ever since discovering Pitch Meeting, cinemasins seems... I don't know, vain?

[Spawn_of_Apathy]

I don’t watch them all the time, but sometimes I find them amusing. Mostly because I’ve been surprised by both how little or how much research and accuracy has gone in to certain shows and movies. Or even what long term tropes are just for drama and have no basis in reality.  
 

some of my favorites are like when real scientists and astrophysicists review things and you find out some things you might not expect to be are just crazy accurate based on existing models and theories. 

[unogueen]

Shit like this leads to off-hand cultural criticism like 'matial arts aren't real' because an MMA match doesn't look like a Jackie Chan movie. No shit. And martial arts isn't abput beating people up either.It's a spiritual tool dumb fucking nonces.

[Derek]

On 5/26/2022 at 2:03 PM, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

I can quite honestly say that I've never watched a single one of those types of videos because I well and truly don't give a damn.

Same. I guess I didn't realize that there were serious videos like this. I think the only similar thing I 'watched' (read through) was the Metro Bus driver that analyzed the bus scene in Shang-Chi and that was pretty funny.

[skillzdadirecta]

On 5/27/2022 at 5:21 AM, Bloodporne said:

What WILL bother me is frequent anachronisms. I recently watched the Wu Tang show on Hulu and dude...it was absurd. They have like one '80s Toyota in the foreground and in the background you'll have three 2010s Chevy pickup trucks and some Williamsburg hipster walking by. 

My buddy writes on that show... I'll show him this post 

[Bloodporne]

8 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said:

My buddy writes on that show... I'll show him this post 

NOOO lol!!! I actually genuinely like that show, tell him that instead! It's so much better than I expected. But the anachronisms are totally out of hand anyway . I get it though, I'm sure the budget isn't crazy and I bet that gets expensive. Also I live here so I notice stupid details like "hey! they didn't have that type of aluminum storefront at the deli in the 80s, come on!".