SuperSpreader Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The Talibarn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 A real, albeit incomplete, solution for this is that the federal government could pick up the tab or represent anyone sued under this Or any similar statute in any state. And because it directly impacts the federal budget it should have zero problem getting through recon federal power and money should actually be used for an affirmative good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: A real, albeit incomplete, solution for this is that the federal government could pick up the tab or represent anyone sued under this Or any similar statute in any state. And because it directly impacts the federal budget it should have zero problem getting through recon federal power and money should actually be used for an affirmative good Yes but as a bisexual woman our girl queen Kyrsten obviously supports the Texas law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jason said: Yes but as a bisexual woman our girl queen Kyrsten obviously supports the Texas law. Manchin in actuality would be the vote to lose but maybe if Collins was actually rather than performatively concerned she would support such a measure in his place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Here's the kicker: Islam is theologically more "liberal" when it comes to abortion than Texas. "Islam and abortion - Wikipedia" Islam and abortion - Wikipedia EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 These tip lines are gonna be overwhelmed by bogus tips. I don't see how this system isn't gonna be rendered completely ineffective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Just now, Air_Delivery said: These tip lines are gonna be overwhelmed by bogus tips. I don't see how this system isn't gonna be rendered completely ineffective. I've already submitted about 10 so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Air_Delivery said: These tip lines are gonna be overwhelmed by bogus tips. I don't see how this system isn't gonna be rendered completely ineffective. If they can get the IP address of the submission and do some keyword filtering, they’ll get rid of a lot of chaff. They don’t need anything remotely close to a solid batting average here for it to “work.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Kal-El814 said: If they can get the IP address of the submission and do some keyword filtering, they’ll get rid of a lot of chaff. They don’t need anything remotely close to a solid batting average here for it to “work.” I think you are overestimating their technical ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kal-El814 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said: I think you are overestimating their technical ability. Again, I don’t think the chilling effect requires the bounty system to work effectively at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 The Satanic Temple doing Gods work 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Here's the kicker: Islam is theologically more "liberal" when it comes to abortion than Texas. "Islam and abortion - Wikipedia" Islam and abortion - Wikipedia EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG I hate reading jokes calling this the American Taliban or Texas shariah or whatever. Muslims have nothing to do with this. The blame for this lies squarely with American Christians. American evangelicals are an evil and rotten group. Blame those fuckers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: TikTok VM.TIKTOK.COM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 3, 2021 Author Share Posted September 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: I hate reading jokes calling this the American Taliban or Texas shariah or whatever. Muslims have nothing to do with this. The blame for this lies squarely with American Christians. American evangelicals are an evil and rotten group. Blame those fuckers. analogies how do they work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jason said: analogies how do they work It's a lazy analogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: It's a lazy analogy. It is odd that you are joining Islam and the Taliban at the hip here, when the point of the analogy isn’t that Islamic or Christian religious beliefs are bad (though I’m sure many think that too), but that both groups use their religious affiliation as a way to exert political/governmental/social dominance over everybody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 To me, it plays into the whole trope of "how can this happen here?" or "this is not who we are!!!!" When all of our history screams, yes this is exactly who we are. I just find it to me a lazy comparison when there are so many other analogues in American history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Here's the kicker: Islam is theologically more "liberal" when it comes to abortion than Texas. "Islam and abortion - Wikipedia" Islam and abortion - Wikipedia EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG And much of Europe is more conservative when it comes to abortion than America (maybe not Texas though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: To me, it plays into the whole trope of "how can this happen here?" or "this is not who we are!!!!" When all of our history screams, yes this is exactly who we are. I just find it to me a lazy comparison when there are so many other analogues in American history. As I said in another thread here, Americans are incapable of self-reflection. 99% of the right is too wrapped up in American exceptionalism, as is like 90% of the left and it's only that low because there are a bunch of African Americans mixed in there. James Loewen died like a week ago and nobody noticed because nobody remembered Lies My Teacher Told Me because nobody actually cares about the white-tinted glasses this nation wears outside of limp wristed complaints on social media. Remember that thread about schools banning books about America's racist history because CRT? Yeah, I didn't until now because you know, abortion and Afghanistan and COVID and what were we even talking about? Anyone know if any of those banned books were pulled out of the fire after social media "outrage"? Anyone even remember which books schools were banning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I hope this just leads to conservatives accusing conservatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 GoDaddy boots Texas abortion “whistleblower” site for violating privacy rule ARSTECHNICA.COM GoDaddy gave website "24 hours to move to a different provider." The Texas site is going to have to find a new host. Apparently, the entire purpose of the site violates GoDaddy's terms of service. Quote GoDaddy took action after Gizmodo reported that Texas Right to Life's new website, prolifewhistleblower.com, seems to violate a GoDaddy rule that says website operators may not "collect or harvest (or permit anyone else to collect or harvest) any User Content or any non-public or personally identifiable information about another user or any other person or entity without their express prior written consent." GoDaddy's terms of service also say that customers cannot use the web hosting platform in a way that "[v]iolates the privacy or publicity rights of another User or any other person or entity, or breaches any duty of confidentiality that you owe to another User or any other person or entity." I actually hadn't considered this and it may be a problem for them looking to host this elsewhere. I guess they could always go to Epik and join the likes of Gab and 8chan. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 I just wanna put down the whole "My body my choice" is a shitty argument. The anti aboritionists claim is that the fetus is a separate human. A much better and more sensical argument is that a fetus isn't a person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 4, 2021 Author Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said: I just wanna put down the whole "My body my choice" is a shitty argument. The anti aboritionists claim is that the fetus is a separate human. A much better and more sensical argument is that a fetus isn't a person. The fetus is simply a parasite until approximately six months in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Jason said: The fetus is simply a parasite until approximately six months in. I'd argue that I didn't become a person until I started making memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 They're like a dog that actually caught the car. The truth is that the vast majority of Americans are in favor of legal abortions. It's a very vocal minority that is opposed. This isn't actually a win most of them want, because it actually hurts them. No one who was in favor of abortions being made illegal is going to change their voting habits based on this. Those people are already 100% engaged. It's a win with zero political upside for them. People on the other side though? This is a major motivator. This will push people to vote and become politically active. Something like 75% of Americans are pro-choice. Most republicans don't give a crap about this anyway. They just use it to keep the religious right happy. The truth is that the religious right and fiscal republicans are barely aligned politically. They are very strange bedfellows if you stop and think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: its cool they already accounted for that by voter suppression 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 The hill is a right wing rag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Quote Jonathan Turley is an American attorney, conservative legal scholar, writer, commentator, and legal analyst in broadcast and print journalism.[1] A professor at George Washington University Law School, he has testified in United States Congressional proceedings about constitutional and statutory issues. He participated in impeachment hearings and removal trials in Congress, including the impeachment of President Bill Clinton and both the first and second impeachments of President Donald Trump.[2][3] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 4 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The hill is a right wing rag Oh I'm aware, I posted it because of how ridiculous the headline is. "Judge says man didn't rape woman, but her making the accusation might draw future rapes upon her." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 20 hours ago, ort said: They're like a dog that actually caught the car. The truth is that the vast majority of Americans are in favor of legal abortions. It's a very vocal minority that is opposed. This isn't actually a win most of them want, because it actually hurts them. No one who was in favor of abortions being made illegal is going to change their voting habits based on this. Those people are already 100% engaged. It's a win with zero political upside for them. People on the other side though? This is a major motivator. This will push people to vote and become politically active. Something like 75% of Americans are pro-choice. Most republicans don't give a crap about this anyway. They just use it to keep the religious right happy. The truth is that the religious right and fiscal republicans are barely aligned politically. They are very strange bedfellows if you stop and think about it. Is this true? Obviously I only have personal anecdotes, but I know a lot of liberals who wish the party would go the other way on abortion. Over 40, I'd say its 50-50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, BloodyHell said: Is this true? Obviously I only have personal anecdotes, but I know a lot of liberals who wish the party would go the other way on abortion. Over 40, I'd say its 50-50. Polls have consistently placed about 60% of the population in favor of keeping abortion legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 minute ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Polls have consistently placed about 60% of the population in favor of keeping abortion legal. Good to know. Im definitely pro choice, but I know a lot of Christian liberals who are against abortion. Including my grandmother and mother-in-law. Like I said, it was just anecdotal. I figured it was most Republicans and some liberals, getting to about 50% of the voting population against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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