Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I haven't experienced so much as a sniffle in the three years since I started routinely wearing a mask in public so there's my further incentive to continue doing so! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 More reasons my vasectomy continues to pay dividends! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 39 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I haven't experienced so much as a sniffle in the three years since I started routinely wearing a mask in public so there's my further incentive to continue doing so! Me either. It's been the most illness-free three years of my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 My daughter has been in the same cold cycle as @DarkStar189's son it sounds like. Ugh it's been rough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: My daughter has been in the same cold cycle as @DarkStar189's son it sounds like. Ugh it's been rough. My son is 10 years old and he hasn't been sick like this since he was a toddler. We blame part of it on his school classroom. The heat has been "broken" since November and he said most days it just runs continuously. They keep the windows open to cool it down. Just a germ fest in there with everybody coughing because it's so dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 8 hours ago, DarkStar189 said: We all got hit with colds in my house now. My son had maybe 2 weeks being healthy and just got a fever again on Tuesday. Dr said he's negative for strept, Covid, flu. Been going on since Thanksgiving with him. I definitely have all the cold symptoms. I usually sleep like crap when I have a cold. But I started a routine every night. Nasal massage on my face, then using a neti pot, then getting a shower. Go to bed and I'm able to sleep through the night with very minimal drainage and stuffy nose. We've been on the same cycle at home. I swear I haven't had a week go by without me having to message a teacher to excuse an absence. Even then, it's been non-stop runny noses. My 5yo slept through Thanksgiving. My oldest slept through his December birthday. I literally had to postpone Christmas because we were all stuck in bed, sick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: We've been on the same cycle at home. I swear I haven't had a week go by without me having to message a teacher to excuse an absence. Even then, it's been non-stop runny noses. My 5yo slept through Thanksgiving. My oldest slept through his December birthday. I literally had to postpone Christmas because we were all stuck in bed, sick. 5 hours ago, TUFKAK said: More reasons my vasectomy continues to pay dividends! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I think my wife, son, and I are through the worst of it. My son seems completely back to normal. My wife and I still have a lingering cough, but damn do I have some brain fog. I don't recall this at all back in 2020. It's really disorienting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Cochrane Library WWW.COCHRANELIBRARY.COM TLDR: Most masking had no effect because people don’t wear fitted n95, touch their faces alot, etc. what does work? Washing your hands often and well. Also on this study: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: Cochrane Library WWW.COCHRANELIBRARY.COM TLDR: Most masking had no effect because people don’t wear fitted n95, touch their faces alot, etc. what does work? Washing your hands often and well. Also on this study: Yeah I call bullshit, especially since many more studies show that masking is effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Yeah I call bullshit, especially since many more studies show that masking is effective. Infection control for decades has been based around masking, this article is a nothing burger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, BloodyHell said: Cochrane Library WWW.COCHRANELIBRARY.COM TLDR: Most masking had no effect because people don’t wear fitted n95, touch their faces alot, etc. what does work? Washing your hands often and well. Also on this study: This isn't going to change anyone's mind, because mask wearing became political. There never was any science that showed a cloth/surgical mask mandate did anything but have a very small impact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I got the boost! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 11 hours ago, TUFKAK said: Infection control for decades has been based around masking, this article is a nothing burger. It’s not an article, its an in depth study. the video is just about the study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 12 hours ago, BloodyHell said: Cochrane Library WWW.COCHRANELIBRARY.COM TLDR: Most masking had no effect because people don’t wear fitted n95, touch their faces alot, etc. what does work? Washing your hands often and well. Also on this study: COVID rarely spreads by touch. What a crock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, Air_Delivery said: COVID rarely spreads by touch. What a crock. It didn’t say it did. You’re just spewing nonsense now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: It didn’t say it did. You’re just spewing nonsense now. Why does washing your hands work often and well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Go away apoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 The study in question is not limited to Covid, hence the issue of hand hygiene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, sblfilms said: The study in question is not limited to Covid, hence the issue of hand hygiene. Sorry thought this thread was about COVID. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, sblfilms said: The study in question is not limited to Covid, hence the issue of hand hygiene. It’s almost as though doing a comprehensive trial review of two very different viruses is pointless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, Joe said: It’s almost as though doing a comprehensive trial review of two very different viruses is pointless! The study, well meta-analysis of other studies using randomized control trials, separates out the impacts of different interventions on different viruses. Don’t mind me though, dunk away if you please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, sblfilms said: The study, well meta-analysis of other studies using randomized control trials, separates out the impacts of different interventions on different viruses. Don’t mind me though, dunk away if you please Right, I did skim it haha. More than anyone but you did probably. But I still thinking talking about two very different viruses like that in the same meta-analysis is confusing and pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 It has been known for decades washing your hands is effective against some viruses/bacteria. Just as it has been known for decades that masking is effective against others. Its why in the beginning of COVID why they recommended doing everything before they really knew how it is spread. There are plenty of studies showing the effectiveness of masking against COVID even with regular surgical masks. One meta study isn't going to change the consensus. The only masks that seem to not work well are cloth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Seat belts don’t work if not used correctly ergo they’re useless. End the mandate! I can now not wear masks while doing things like: accessing ports, starting central lines, etc. i mean, clearly this one article overrides decades of experience and there’s no efficacy in masking! Especially since we now know it’s all political too! We were so woke we we’re pro masking decades before the pandemic to annoy right wingers cause reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Air_Delivery said: Its why in the beginning of COVID why they recommended doing everything before they really knew how it is spread. It was to save masks not lives or slow infection 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 7 hours ago, TUFKAK said: Seat belts don’t work if not used correctly ergo they’re useless. End the mandate! I can now not wear masks while doing things like: accessing ports, starting central lines, etc. i mean, clearly this one article overrides decades of experience and there’s no efficacy in masking! Especially since we now know it’s all political too! We were so woke we we’re pro masking decades before the pandemic to annoy right wingers cause reasons. Somebody definitely didn’t read even the summary of the meta-analysis and only watched the dumb video commentary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 13 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: It was to save masks not lives or slow infection Per usual the truth is pretty fucked up and we should probably talk about it but partisans latched on to their issues and it'll be new problems before they get bored with these ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Past Covid infection as protective as vaccination against severe illness and death, study finds WWW.NBCNEWS.COM The immunity generated from an infection was found to be “at least as high, if not higher” than that provided by two doses of an mRNA vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just have to risk death and major illness instead of getting a goddamn vaccine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Got a guy at work that has been floored by Covid at least 3 times, and he never got vaccinated. Must be working. It might also be helpful to the rest of the company if he didn’t try to ‘work through it’ until he felt bad enough to stay home for week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Quote While Murray and Wachter agreed that vaccination remains the safest route, having a past Covid infection should at least be considered in policymaking decisions going forward, such as vaccination requirements, they said. “What Europe did with this evidence made a lot of sense, which is where evidence of past infection was seen as essentially equal to vaccination in terms of requirements to go into events or for employment,” Murray said. This seemed so obvious to me once we had good data on B/T cell immunity from vaccination and prior infection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Just have to risk death and major illness instead of getting a goddamn vaccine As jeebus intended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 22, 2023 Author Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 hours ago, sblfilms said: This seemed so obvious to me once we had good data on B/T cell immunity from vaccination and prior infection. My recollection was that you even believed natural infection provided better immunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 The US DOE believes lab leak most likely cause of Covid-19, apparently based on new intelligence. If it is ever proven, the Chinese government should be forced to pay reparations for the deaths and global financial toll of their failure here. Energy Department finds COVID-19 most likely emerged from lab leak, reports say: What we know WWW.USATODAY.COM The Energy Department has concluded with "low confidence" that the pandemic most likely began after an unintentional lab leak in Wuhan, reports say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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