Guest Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, Joe said: @chakoo is not a fan. I think it was fine to be cautious, but I also think the data coming in from relatively early on was pretty compelling which is why I have been an advocate for a slight preference towards first doses policy for a while now. The math just makes too much sense. I think the biggest issue is making sure you have a good system to recall people 3-4 months down the road as opposed to what most are doing right now and giving a second dose appointment date at the time of the first one since it's only 3-4 weeks after the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I think it was fine to be cautious, but I also think the data coming in from relatively early on was pretty compelling which is why I have been an advocate for a slight preference towards first doses policy for a while now. The math just makes too much sense. I think the biggest issue is making sure you have a good system to recall people 3-4 months down the road as opposed to what most are doing right now and giving a second dose appointment date at the time of the first one since it's only 3-4 weeks after the first. Given how slow the rollout has been in Canada, it DEFINITELY makes sense to do a one shot strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Jason said: This ad keeps popping up on my Facebook feed: Speaking of ads, I be getting ads for pillow cube and that lady is very nice looking. But for the reason I came here, Coke still taste like ass, but I have no clue what causes it. It seems like everything else tastes normal now except for coke, and my uncle who came over to install my dishwasher smelled exactly how coke tastes. I think it has something to due with the snuff he chews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 31 minutes ago, Joe said: Cutting your parachute lines 100 feet up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 This 4th wave is going to get bad. These are probably the same type of people who go watch the huge crashing waves on the boardwalks. While the Category 3 or greater Hurricane is just spinning off shore, kind of mentality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, silentbob said: This 4th wave is going to get bad. These are probably the same type of people who go watch the huge crashing waves on the boardwalks. While the Category 3 or greater Hurricane is just spinning off shore, kind of mentality What would someone vaccinated be in this scenario? Someone who's already evacuated, or someone that's also watching the waves but while inside an everything-proof dome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: What would someone vaccinated be in this scenario? Someone who's already evacuated, or someone that's also watching the waves but while inside an everything-proof dome? They would be the ones that followed safety advice and evacuated the area of danger and/or got themselves the shot. The idiots are the one ignoring public warnings of caution watching the waves getting bigger in front of them. Pretty sure the only shots given here would be from either the bottle or the gun they brought to shoot at the storm thinking they can stop it with their 2nd amendment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Joe said: "Haha stupid Texas cutting their parachute lines 100 feet above the ground...oh wait that actually sounds like fun." This is so dumb. The decline in case rates is stalling out, and the metrics were set before new, highly transmissible, vaccine-resistant strains were spreading around. So we're likely to find ourselves reopening right as the numbers are going back up, which would mean the reason they'd be going up is not the reopening, meaning the resurgence will only be amplified by the reopening. LA County Might Really Return to Indoor Dining Next Week. Here’s How That’s Possible LA.EATER.COM A new vaccine redistribution project from state officials will, when completed, likely push many Southern California counties into the less restrictive red tier for reopening — and... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 They think the anti-shutdown crowd is bitching now, just wait until we have to shut back down again in April or May after it was looking like we might have a normalish summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 27 minutes ago, Jason said: They think the anti-shutdown crowd is bitching now, just wait until we have to shut back down again in April or May after it was looking like we might have a normalish summer. Rich folks, politicians, and their families have all received the vaccine. I'm not sure what risk there is to open everything up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: Rich folks, politicians, and their families have all received the vaccine. I'm not sure what risk there is to open everything up now. So one fun part of this is that wineries will be allowed to reopen for indoors but breweries and distilleries won't. As far as I can tell, wineries being treated distinctly from the other is purely about Newsom owning a winery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chakoo Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Joe said: @chakoo is not a fan. I'm in Ontario, so not the same province. I have my own issues with how my province is rolling this out by just being behind and disorganized. With that said, My issue is not purely single dose. It was that it was being thrown out as the perfect solution without the full data yet to back it up or verify, it was just projections from a small window. During the early rollout of in israel they were finding the efficacy less than what was stated by pfizer. At the current time we now have more data to backup that it's an ok path to take but there is still gaps in the data for long term (but so is the case from two doses as it hasn't had the time needed). By all means, feel free to not get your second shot if you believe strongly in it. I'll be fine if I have to wait till the summer for me to get my shot, I'm a WFH software engineer anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 38 minutes ago, Jason said: So one fun part of this is that wineries will be allowed to reopen for indoors but breweries and distilleries won't. As far as I can tell, wineries being treated distinctly from the other is purely about Newsom owning a winery. I really appreciate his transparency here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, chakoo said: I'm in Ontario, so not the same province. I have my own issues with how my province is rolling this out by just being behind and disorganized. With that said, My issue is not purely single dose. It was that it was being thrown out as the perfect solution without the full data yet to back it up or verify, it was just projections from a small window. During the early rollout of in israel they were finding the efficacy less than what was stated by pfizer. At the current time we now have more data to backup that it's an ok path to take but there is still gaps in the data for long term (but so is the case from two doses as it hasn't had the time needed). By all means, feel free to not get your second shot if you believe strongly in it. I'll be fine if I have to wait till the summer for me to get my shot, I'm a WFH software engineer anyways. Oh, I wasn’t trying to suggest that your concerns were invalid at all. Just was curious for your take given the new info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Joe said: Oh, I wasn’t trying to suggest that your concerns were invalid at all. Just was curious for your take given the new info. You have a very odd way of asking. In that case, like I mention the new data seems to support that it should be ok to delay but I haven't really had time to dig into any new info on skipping the 2nd shot entirely to say how I feel on that half of it yet. This might be a non issue in short order with J&J due for approval any day now in Canada. Yet we also have to see what long term impact variants like SA & BZ will have on things specially with all having reduced efficacy with it. So *shrug*, I really don't know atm. Health Canada 'days away' from decision on Johnson & Johnson vaccine WWW.CTVNEWS.CA Health Canada is just 'days away' from deciding whether to approve Johnson & Johnson's COVID-19 vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 10 hours ago, sblfilms said: People in general are much more attractive when you can only see their eyes So you're moving to Saudi Arabia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iculus Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I plan on wearing a mask, wherever allowed, going forward, regardless of a pandemic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Shouldn't be an issue to go one-shot strat with this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Joe said: Shouldn't be an issue to go one-shot strat with this one. In reality, it seems that single-dose from the mRNA vaccines is around the same efficacy as the single-dose J&J vaccine. Hard to compare completely since the mRNA trials were pre-variant, while J&J (and AZ) was in the middle of the variants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Rollout is picking up speed in Canada, which is great. Still have a ways to go, of course: We need to hit about 230,000/day to reach the goal of everyone receiving at least one shot by the end of June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 38 minutes ago, Joe said: Shouldn't be an issue to go one-shot strat with this one. Yep specially with it being design and tested for that. This is great news as this one is easier to roll out in terms of storage as well. If production numbers can ramp up quickly for this one we might see vaccination through pharmacies with this one (up here you can get your flu shot through a local pharmacy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Rollout is picking up speed in Canada, which is great. Still have a ways to go, of course: We need to hit about 230,000/day to reach the goal of everyone receiving at least one shot by the end of June. Ontario continues to be a cluster ***k though because they left it up to the regional health to sort it out. so we have some places already vaccinating 80 year olds and Toronto saying they'll just sit on their deliveries until a web portal is finished by mid march. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, chakoo said: Ontario continues to be a cluster ***k though because they left it up to the regional health to sort it out. so we have some places already vaccinating 80 year olds and Toronto saying they'll just sit on their deliveries until a web portal is finished by mid march. Yeah Ontario has handled this entire pandemic poorly, Ford is a moron. He has set it up so that he can blame the Federal government for one side of the issue (procurement) and the municipalities for the other side (delivery) since he's washed his hands. Saskatchewan actually just combined all our health authorities into one large amalgam recently, so our rollout has been fantastic, we are literally using up 100% of the supply we receive within days. Our government is also regressive and dumb, but a centralized health region turned out to have been a good idea for at least this type of event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Can you believe this idiot? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Trudeau just said that Pfizer will be delivering an extra 3.5 million doses over Mar/Apr/May. 8 million total doses arriving in March, for the four approved vaccines. Theoretically that puts first-dose vaccination around 25% of the adult pop by April, assuming the provinces can keep up with rolling it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Exclusive: Oxford study indicates AstraZeneca effective against Brazil variant, source says | Reuters WWW.REUTERS.COM Preliminary data from a study conducted at the University of Oxford indicates that the COVID-19 vaccine developed by AstraZeneca PLC is effective against the P1, or... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Woman sues over GoFundMe for Starbucks barista she targeted in a Facebook post after he asked her to wear a mask WWW.WAFB.COM The woman posted a photo of the barista on Facebook saying, “Meet Lenin from Starbucks who refused to serve me cause I’m not wearing a mask. Next time I will wait for cops and bring a medical exemption.” It went viral. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Are they also doing testing of the other vaccines on the Brazil and other varients? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilentWorld Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 18 hours ago, Iculus said: I plan on wearing a mask, wherever allowed, going forward, regardless of a pandemic. After the past year I’m thinking it’s gonna be tough for me to ever go to a crowded football game, concert, etc, without wearing a mask. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Here comes wave 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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