mclumber1 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 A few hours ago Boeing performed an unmanned test launch of their first capsule that was supposed to rendezvous with the Space Station. However, soon after reaching orbit it started experiencing control issues. Boeing and NASA are determining if the capsule will be able to make to the Space Station, or if the capsule will return to Earth. This could be a huge setback for human spaceflight in the US. With SpaceX's capsule blowing up earlier this year on the test pad, and now this, America may have to continue on relying on the Russian Soyuz to get to/from the ISS for even longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 If only there was a organization with decades of experience building and launching space craft with humans on board that we could give money to. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: If only there was a organization with decades of experience building and launching space craft with humans on board that we could give money to. NASA is building their own capsule and rocket under the SLS program. From 2011 through 2014, the government has spent $14 billion developing the new launch system, and it won't fly it's first test mission until next year at the earliest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Wtf is going on at Boeing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Wtf is going on at Boeing "You see, Mr. Government, if we only had more money, it would work." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 7 hours ago, mclumber1 said: A few hours ago Boeing performed an unmanned test launch of their first capsule that was supposed to rendezvous with the Space Station. However, soon after reaching orbit it started experiencing control issues. Boeing and NASA are determining if the capsule will be able to make to the Space Station, or if the capsule will return to Earth. This could be a huge setback for human spaceflight in the US. With SpaceX's capsule blowing up earlier this year on the test pad, and now this, America may have to continue on relying on the Russian Soyuz to get to/from the ISS for even longer. They had a successful test after that, I believe. I don't think it set SpaceX back very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, TheGreatGamble said: They had a successful test after that, I believe. I don't think it set SpaceX back very much. The successful year was actually before. That capsule did a test mission to the ISS and it was near perfect. After the capsule returned they were performing ground testing of the abort system and it blew up. They determined why and have rectified the root cause. In January they are performing an inflight abort test. If successful, NASA will likely certify the SpaceX capsule to fly humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 ISS???? More like ISIS with that foreign terrorist name!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Sounds like it got suck in a mode where it's very sensitive to any drift which caused the thrusters to fire like crazy and burn a lot of fuel. It can still get to the ISS but it's fuel reserve would be below the safety margin to dock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 The clock that screwed up the mission was off by 11 hours. HOURS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Boeing CEO just resigned https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2019/12/23/boeing-ceo-resigns-and-is-replaced-by-board-chairman-as-company-finishes-year-of-crisis/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Boeing CEO just resigned https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2019/12/23/boeing-ceo-resigns-and-is-replaced-by-board-chairman-as-company-finishes-year-of-crisis/ Just came here to post this. They do need new leadership for sure. They also need a change in culture at the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, mclumber1 said: They also need a change in culture at the company. What does this even mean for a company with 150k employees and worksites all over the world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: What does this even mean for a company with 150k employees and worksites all over the world? They need nap pods and free food like Google and Facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Boeing's got an amazing software team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodimus Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just to add perspective. The Space Shuttle was designed in the 1970s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Time to regulate all software!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Boeing just needs to burn down so someone can scope up the assets and rebuild something better. There is just too much toxic trash in that company to repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 On 12/20/2019 at 7:59 AM, PaladinSolo said: If only there was a organization with decades of experience building and launching space craft with humans on board that we could give money to. Even during NASA’s prime, much of their equipment was subcontracted out to multiple companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: Even during NASA’s prime, much of their equipment was subcontracted out to multiple companies. Yup. Had to spread the wealth around if you want to keep up that level of funding. If this capsule really does get lost in all this mess, that leaves Orion and SpaceX's Dragon left, but as far as I can tell, those two don't really serve the same purpose. I sure hope Space X can keep their record clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, TwinIon said: Yup. Had to spread the wealth around if you want to keep up that level of funding. If this capsule really does get lost in all this mess, that leaves Orion and SpaceX's Dragon left, but as far as I can tell, those two don't really serve the same purpose. I sure hope Space X can keep their record clean. Orion could go to the ISS easily but SLS is stupid expensive ride to just low orbit and really overpowered. Originally Orion was supposed to go to the ISS on top of a Shuttle Solid Rocket Booster (with a centaur upper stage) but it was found to be unsafe in abort scenarios (escape motors couldn't out run the SRB and the falling fire would torch Orion's chutes). Orion will likely only fly 3 times before Starship takes over lunar missions (or maybe Dragon to Gateway using Falcon Heavy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 https://www.engadget.com/2020/02/29/boeing-starliner-failed-first-flight-report/ Oh look, someone skipped end-to-end testing and used an imperfect emulated/simulated platform to run some test on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 We need a Boeing fucked up thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 damn why does boeing suck at everything these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 17 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: damn why does boeing suck at everything these days They need a bailout so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 35 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: damn why does boeing suck at everything these days Some have attributed their decline to being led by finance/business oriented CEOs, and not engineering CEOs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Could you imagine being an Astronaut trained on this vehicle and waiting for over 2 years… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 7 hours ago, outsida said: Could you imagine being an Astronaut trained on this vehicle and waiting for over 2 years… Oh, astronauts wait far longer than that. Spaceflight is a necessarily slow industry. I think people forget how many years the Falcon rockets were delayed too. And then there NASA's own launch vehicle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Shit still broke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 If it’s Boeing it ain’t going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted yesterday at 01:58 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:58 AM Shit still broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted yesterday at 02:10 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:10 AM This sucks because with Elon going crazy we need a viable alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted yesterday at 02:13 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 02:13 AM 9 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Shit still broke. Valves are bane of existence of aerospace engineers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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