SaysWho? Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Who’s making the debate thread? There. Moderators are Erin Burnett, Anderson Cooper and Marc Lacey of the NYT. The 12 candidates are: Former Vice President Joe Biden Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg Former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii Sen. Kamala Harris of California Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota Former Rep. Beto O'Rourke of Texas Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont Businessman Tom Steyer Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts Businessman Andrew Yang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 You should call this thread "12 Angry Libs" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: You should call this thread "12 Angry Libs" So by the end of the debate 6 more angry Democrats will have somehow appeared on stage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: The 12 candidates are: Former Vice President Joe Biden Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg Former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii Sen. Kamala Harris of California Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota Former Rep. Beto O'Rourke of Texas Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont Businessman Tom Steyer Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts Businessman Andrew Yang There's your cuts. After tonight, they should disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, CayceG said: There's your cuts. After tonight, they should disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, CayceG said: There's your cuts. After tonight, they should disappear. O'Rourke and Castro staying in over Yang and Booker? Wat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Seems like we have a pretty consensus top 5 of Biden Warren Sanders Harris Buttigieg, and then maybe Beto hanging out around 6th. Someone from the bottom 6 needs to break out with this debate because as of right now it's just a formality they haven't been eliminated. And even then we have a top 3 of Warren Sanders Biden. Anyone not of those 3 really needs to come out swinging and go for the throat because all of a sudden holy shit, January is right around the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Excite for the debut of Steyer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: Excite for the debut of Steyer? He could do so much good spending his money on things that aren’t his useless vanity campaign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link200 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, CayceG said: There's your cuts. After tonight, they should disappear. Good luck with that. The candidates this year seem to never go away. I think the only way to get them to drop out is to have the DNC make the qualification threshold for these later debates much more restrictive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Link200 said: Good luck with that. The candidates this year seem to never go away. I think the only way to get them to drop out is to have the DNC make the qualification threshold for these later debates much more restrictive. And they won't, because any restriction that ditches these dweebs would kick Beto and Mayo Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 I feel like many candidates did go away this year. It's just that there are a ton of candidates running in general. I mean, eight dropped out and it's the October before the Iowa caucuses. I'm pretty sure that's unprecedented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, CayceG said: And they won't, because any restriction that ditches these dweebs would kick Beto and Mayo Pete. Those dweebs are already done unless something changes quickly. Maybe Beto can drop an F bomb on live tv, edgy swearing seems to be his thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 If you have to have yourself introduced as "businessman" then just get the fuck off the stage. It sounds every bit as credible as this jackass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Senator Elizabeth Warren Mayor Pete Buttigieg Vice President Joe Biden "Businessman" Yang Come the fuck on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Annoying rich asshole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Dodger said: Annoying rich asshole? You don't need to repeat yourself there dodger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Dodger said: Annoying rich asshole? Annoying rich asshole who has never won an election, never built coalitions, or generally never convinced someone to do anything without being able to control their wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: You don't need to repeat yourself there dodger I wish i was rich. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 35 minutes ago, Dodger said: Annoying rich asshole? 32 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: You don't need to repeat yourself there dodger @sblfilms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Dodger said: I wish i was rich. You’ve got the first half of the equation completed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Anathema- said: If you have to have yourself introduced as "businessman" then just get the fuck off the stage. It sounds every bit as credible as this jackass Excuse me, but Vincent Adultman is very credible. Are you dating a successful Hollywood agent like he was? NO, YOU WEREN'T! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Warren is getting hit hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Everyone except Yang doesn't seem to realize that jobs are kind of an antiquated thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Warren is wrong about automation and wrong about trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Warren literally dropping before our eyes and ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 That was embarrassingly weak for Warren to come back and say her social security plan is like UBI. That's a stretch and everyone knows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, osxmatt said: Warren literally dropping before our eyes and ears. Whoever the adviser is that told her to dodge the M4A tax question is an idiot. "Middle class taxes will go up, but you will never receive a medical bill again" - that's how you answer that question. In response to Pete - "how much is the premium, how much are the copays, will people still get medical bills?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Jwheel86 said: Whoever the adviser is that told her to dodge the M4A tax question is an idiot. "Middle class taxes will go up, but you will never receive a medical bill again" - that's how you answer that question. In response to Pete - "how much is the premium, how much are the copays, will people still get medical bills?" Andrew Yang asked her about UBI and automation. She rambled about Social Security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 The threat of automation vis a vi AI is vastly overblown given how much of the economy and current jobs are service based. These people just need higher wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 There is 0 difference between paying taxes for health insurance and paying premiums plus variable "cost sharing" mechanisms, except one is vastly easier to understand for 90+% of people. This shit isn't hard to explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The threat of automation vis a vi AI is vastly overblown given how much of the economy and current jobs are service based. These people just need higher wages. Yeah (which is why we should have wage subsides), but the manufacturing jobs they are referring to, the empty factories, those jobs are gone because of automation. Warren makes it seem like this is just about trade policy and corporate structure, but even if you threw tariffs up, the factories that would be built here would have robots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 So glad that this debate has moved on from Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Massdriver said: Yeah (which is why we should have wage subsides), but the manufacturing jobs they are referring to, the empty factories, those jobs are gone because of automation. Warren makes it seem like this is just about trade policy and corporate structure, but even if you threw tariffs up, the factories that would be built here would have robots. If you raised their wages, they'd have robots. If their health insurance became too costly, they'd have robots. If it were marginally cheaper in a three year time frame than to hire any human, there'd be robots. The only reason people talk to longingly about good manufacturing jobs is because of the threat and actual gains made in that industry by unions, whose rose to power in a time that is never returning. It's pure nostalgia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Warren’s answer there regarding billionaires, in response to Beto, is the best answer I’ve heard in any debate in recent years. She absolutely crushed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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