Jason Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Orcas have sunk 3 boats in Europe and appear to be teaching others to do the same. But why? | Live Science WWW.LIVESCIENCE.COM Scientists think a traumatized orca initiated the assault on boats after a "critical moment of agony" and that the behavior is spreading among the population through social learning. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, Jason said: Orcas have sunk 3 boats in Europe and appear to be teaching others to do the same. But why? | Live Science WWW.LIVESCIENCE.COM Scientists think a traumatized orca initiated the assault on boats after a "critical moment of agony" and that the behavior is spreading among the population through social learning. Hell yeah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 The oceans are now battlefields. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Punk ass bitches finally living up to their name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Fuck yeah that's metal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Killer whales for a reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 2 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Punk ass bitches finally living up to their name. Y'all forgot you almost wiped out all whales? They remember. But now they don't care anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Dodger said: Killer whales for a reason Technically they're not whales. Still, commercial fishing is one of the most destructive industries on the planet, if not the most destructive. You know who else likes to eat fish? Killer whales. You know who keeps jacking all their shit? Humans. If this is just killer whales being like "we're done with your shit," then I am fucking here for it. They are smart cookies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 31 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: Technically they're not whales. Still, commercial fishing is one of the most destructive industries on the planet, if not the most destructive. You know who else likes to eat fish? Killer whales. You know who keeps jacking all their shit? Humans. If this is just killer whales being like "we're done with your shit," then I am fucking here for it. They are smart cookies. They think one of the orcas had a traumatic experience with a boat and is now teaching other orcas to attack boats with her. They're supposed to be smart enough that she's probably literally telling the other orcas the boats are bad and scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jason said: They think one of the orcas had a traumatic experience with a boat and is now teaching other orcas to attack boats with her. They're supposed to be smart enough that she's probably literally telling the other orcas the boats are bad and scary. They probably wouldn't do it if we weren't fucking driving them extinct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 3 hours ago, unogueen said: Y'all forgot you almost wiped out all whales? They remember. But now they don't care anymore. Turns out @Fizzzzle remembers too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Cocaine Whales! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucoe Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Derek said: Cocaine Whales! Say it loud enough and Samuel L. Jackson will demand he star in a movie of the same name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, brucoe said: Say it loud enough and Samuel L. Jackson will demand he star in a movie of the same name. I've had it with these boat fighting orcas on my Monday to Friday Mediterranean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 The orcas saw Avatar: The Way of Water and learned some shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nublood Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 After hearing about this and that Tiger Shark attack in Egypt, me and the ocean had a good run. That’ll do it for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 5/20/2023 at 4:38 AM, Fizzzzle said: They probably wouldn't do it if we weren't fucking driving them extinct. Biologists have no agreement that this is any kind of attack. Many of them think it’s about teaching her young to hunt. Especially since they only seem to be attacking rudders. this is one specific pod, and research has shown every pod of orca’s seem to have both their own dialects, and hunting traditions. They are definitely incredible animals though. You can watch them surgically hunt seals in a lot of places. You can also see a shark wash up on shore a lot of places and you know it’s a orca attack because the only thing missing will be the liver. theres an incredible video of them attacking a seal on an icepack, watching them coordinate and attack together is a special thing. another video I saw, some guys were fishing Yellowfin Tuna, and a shark attacked the the tuna on their hook, and ended up on the hook itself. They were fighting this shark, reel, let out frag, reel, let out drag, typical saltwater fishing, and they had it near the surface. Out of nowhere, an Orca just comes flying from below, breaches into the sharks belly, and just launched it through the air and came down on top of it, taking it with him. They had to cut line immediately (law when whales/orcas/white sharks are involved, as soon as you can identify them you need to cut line in North America) and never saw the shark again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 It sounds like these attacks have been… orcastrated. 😎 1 1 1 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 It's funny how anthropomorphism has grown a fondness for such egregious creatures. Like if the symbol for wildlife conservation wasn't one that was spectacularly uninvested it's own survival maybe we'd be somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I keep reading this as "The orcs have declared war". <------ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 On 6/15/2023 at 2:28 AM, unogueen said: It's funny how anthropomorphism has grown a fondness for such egregious creatures. Like if the symbol for wildlife conservation wasn't one that was spectacularly uninvested it's own survival maybe we'd be somewhere. how do you type so many words without ever saying anything of value? Egregious creatures? Either you don't know what egregious means, or you're just a moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 hours ago, BloodyHell said: how do you type so many words without ever saying anything of value? Egregious creatures? Either you don't know what egregious means, or you're just a moron. You like rapey animals? Plenty of cute ones are. Pandas have long decided they don't want to survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, unogueen said: You like rapey animals? Plenty of cute ones are. Pandas have long decided they don't want to survive. Ducks are the rapiest I believe. So much so that 'God' created the females to have TWO vaginas, one with false traps & the like while the other is for who she chooses to be her mate. Also, corkscrew penises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, SoberChef said: Ducks are the rapiest I believe. So much so that 'God' created the females to have TWO vaginas, one with false traps & the like while the other is for who she chooses to be her mate. Also, corkscrew penises. Knowledge brings fear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, SoberChef said: Ducks are the rapiest I believe. So much so that 'God' created the females to have TWO vaginas, one with false traps & the like while the other is for who she chooses to be her mate. Also, corkscrew penises. Please don’t look up sea otters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 As a great user once said, he’s the fortune cookie from hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 9 hours ago, unogueen said: You like rapey animals? Plenty of cute ones are. Pandas have long decided they don't want to survive. Ok, so you’re just a dumb shit. no animal decides they don’t want to survive, WE destroy them. Kind of like the way you seem to have destroyed your brain. saying a species doesn’t want to survive is just babbling for the sake of babbling. I mean, you mention anthromorphism, but then try to put human concepts like rape on animals? Animals have no concept of rape, only survival and procreation. To even bring up rape when talking about animals shows you have no place in the discussion. I can never tell if you’re a troll, or just plain mentally deficient. like I said, you say plenty of words, but nothing of value ever comes from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Please don’t look up sea otters Or bears. Not only will a boar “rape” a sow, it'll kill her offspring just so she will go into heat again. And if he doesn’t drag the cubs carcass off to eat himself, the sow will usually eat it. Old boars that can’t procreate anymore are by far the best individual bears to hunt because they they can no longer produce offspring, but they will still kill all of the cubs and yearlings in his territory because it obviously doesn’t understand fertility (or rape). Its all just part of yhe mating ritual. Elephants also do this (lions as well) Old bulls dominate the herd and will kill competitors who try to breed the cows, but he can no longer breed them himself. This why I’m ok with the very, very limited hunting of specific elephants in what are auctioned hunts, because the killing of those old bulls helps the herd grow, and all of the money from the auctions goes back into anti-poaching efforts and the protection of endangered species. An animal killing the future of its species is better off culled from the herd, especially after his genes have been passed on and he can no longer mate. I still couldn’t kill one myself, even if I was super rich and could afford it, but I’m not against the practice in those specific circumstances. anyway, that was a long tangent, but I’m more interested and passionate about this stuff than I am in most human political issues. The management of endangered species is complicated and messy, but science has shown that “just leave them alone”, which is what ‘Animal Rights Groups’ preach, is the worst way to deal with endangered animals. It requires specific interventions that people might think seem cruel, but are also best for the species as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Please don't look up tardigrades sex. Spoiler Because if you do you're a perv! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, BloodyHell said: Ok, so you’re just a dumb shit. no animal decides they don’t want to survive, WE destroy them. Kind of like the way you seem to have destroyed your brain. saying a species doesn’t want to survive is just babbling for the sake of babbling. I mean, you mention anthromorphism, but then try to put human concepts like rape on animals? Animals have no concept of rape, only survival and procreation. To even bring up rape when talking about animals shows you have no place in the discussion. I can never tell if you’re a troll, or just plain mentally deficient. like I said, you say plenty of words, but nothing of value ever comes from them. I never talked about the realities of survival. I was referring to the innate sense of anthropomorphism people draw from all life. Cancer is a general reality but doesn't stop people from calling it evil. Or more to the point I'm making, there's a loud portion of the population whose basic knowledge of anything is derived entirely from screens that leads to a disconnect with the actual realities of being a living being. And this disconnect makes it hard for people to envision what the realities of scarcity and ecosocial collapse are going to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, BloodyHell said: Or bears. Not only will a boar “rape” a sow, it'll kill her offspring just so she will go into heat again. And if he doesn’t drag the cubs carcass off to eat himself, the sow will usually eat it. Old boars that can’t procreate anymore are by far the best individual bears to hunt because they they can no longer produce offspring, but they will still kill all of the cubs and yearlings in his territory because it obviously doesn’t understand fertility (or rape). Its all just part of yhe mating ritual. Elephants also do this (lions as well) Old bulls dominate the herd and will kill competitors who try to breed the cows, but he can no longer breed them himself. This why I’m ok with the very, very limited hunting of specific elephants in what are auctioned hunts, because the killing of those old bulls helps the herd grow, and all of the money from the auctions goes back into anti-poaching efforts and the protection of endangered species. An animal killing the future of its species is better off culled from the herd, especially after his genes have been passed on and he can no longer mate. I still couldn’t kill one myself, even if I was super rich and could afford it, but I’m not against the practice in those specific circumstances. anyway, that was a long tangent, but I’m more interested and passionate about this stuff than I am in most human political issues. The management of endangered species is complicated and messy, but science has shown that “just leave them alone”, which is what ‘Animal Rights Groups’ preach, is the worst way to deal with endangered animals. It requires specific interventions that people might think seem cruel, but are also best for the species as a whole. Yea, no, otters are still worse. Spoiler They do it for fun when they’re bored to baby dolphins and other animals and kills the other animal in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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