Brian Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Did they add dual analog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Can an FPS with that frame rate and Nintendo’s netcode even work?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Looks mindblowing running at 60 instead of 12 fps 3 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: Can an FPS with that frame rate and Nintendo’s netcode even work?? Since Microsoft made it I don't think Nintendo's netcode will be a factor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 35 minutes ago, stepee said: Did they add dual analog Lol. Does that matter at this point? I mean sure, in 1997 this game was pretty damn amazing. You compare it to today's standards it's just not a good videogame in any way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 41 minutes ago, stepee said: Did they add dual analog They did for Perfect Dark a long time ago when they brought it to XBLA. Technically you could play Goldeneye with dual analog on N64 but it required you to use 2 controllers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 40 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Looks mindblowing running at 60 instead of 12 fps This looks more like the N64 version running without as much slowdown. Maybe bumped to 30fps at parts? Hard to say. Check the European video when split screen multiplayer crops up. It's definitely not a native port. 40 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Since Microsoft made it I don't think Nintendo's netcode will be a factor. Its likely running on Nintendo's N64 emulator and the online they built for that. The Xbox port won't have online play, so it wouldn't be Microsoft's doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Well I'll give it a try and hope it still holds up. So much fun was had with friends on the N64 back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I have limited nostalgia for this one. I never had an N64, so it was something I could only play at a friend’s house. And those early 3D console games are generally really rough to revisit in my experience. Might download it on Game Pass just to poke around, but I can’t imagine spending much time with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 So we have the regular Nintendo Online thing... but to play this I need to subscribe to some sort of additional thing, right? Boo. I would play through this again. I loved Goldeneye back in the day (and still have my copy and N64), but I can't play a FPS with the N64 controller anymore. My brain has been rewired for dual analogue. EDIT: Wait, it's also on Xbox Game Pass, and I gots that. Yay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, best3444 said: Lol. Does that matter at this point? I mean sure, in 1997 this game was pretty damn amazing. You compare it to today's standards it's just not a good videogame in any way. I dunno. Comparing it to today’s standards would be kind of a weird thing to do? Goldeneye has its own charm and appeal regardless of the time it’s played, and if they do add dual stick controls it actually is a pretty decent time with buddies. That perfect dark remake was a good little romp when it came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheLeon said: I have limited nostalgia for this one. I never had an N64, so it was something I could only play at a friend’s house. And those early 3D console games are generally really rough to revisit in my experience. Might download it on Game Pass just to poke around, but I can’t imagine spending much time with it. Single player will feel dated, but the objective-based mission structure is still much more interesting than FPSs today generally. Playing at 60fps on Games Pass would be a treat, hopefully that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheLeon said: I have limited nostalgia for this one. I never had an N64, so it was something I could only play at a friend’s house. And those early 3D console games are generally really rough to revisit in my experience. Might download it on Game Pass just to poke around, but I can’t imagine spending much time with it. I don't either. I played it at a cousin's place over Xmas -- and my memory was that I was underwhelmed and thought that Quake 2 online multiplayer was a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Yeah, Goldeneye's multiplayer isn't all that great compared to PC FPSs at the time, especially with how it ran. But for bringing FPS multiplayer to the masses, on the couch, it was fantastic. Goldeneye also had headshots and location based damage. Team Fortress is the only other FPS that did it at the time, and only predated it by a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 My nostalgia for this is walking to the Toys R Us every weekend to play it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Judo Chop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, Mr.Vic20 said: Judo Chop! Slappers only! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 So it looks like the Xbox version has no online multiplayer and the Nintendo version of online still has people playing in splitscreen? Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, ort said: So it looks like the Xbox version has no online multiplayer and the Nintendo version of online still has people playing in splitscreen? Ha! I remember reading nintendo had forced them into making online exclusive to the switch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Was wondering why it was trending today… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I have no interest in online multi, but I might be able to convince some buddies to give split screen a try. Sure will be different on a 77" OLED vs the tiny CRT I played on as a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 49 minutes ago, Paperclyp said: Comparing it to today’s standards would be kind of a weird thing to do? Huh? It's 26 years old and it's not a 2-D game like the NES/SNES/Genesis provided that have aged beautifully. Goldeneye will look like shit today. I remember even back then I was critical with the hands being blocks lol. The gameplay is not even remotely going to be fun if it's not duel analog. The game is extremely small, too. Meh big time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 40 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: Yeah, Goldeneye's multiplayer isn't all that great compared to PC FPSs at the time, especially with how it ran. But for bringing FPS multiplayer to the masses, on the couch, it was fantastic. Goldeneye also had headshots and location based damage. Team Fortress is the only other FPS that did it at the time, and only predated it by a few months. I expect a mediocre 1997-era FPS would make for a bad 2023-era experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 36 minutes ago, best3444 said: Huh? It's 26 years old and it's not a 2-D game like the NES/SNES/Genesis provided that have aged beautifully. Goldeneye will look like shit today. I remember even back then I was critical with the hands being blocks lol. The gameplay is not even remotely going to be fun if it's not duel analog. The game is extremely small, too. Meh big time. What I’m saying is that purchasing this only to feign surprise that it is not up to modern standards is not something that any serious person is going to do. You know what you’re getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjomesphat Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 27 minutes ago, best3444 said: Lol. Does that matter at this point? I mean sure, in 1997 this game was pretty damn amazing. You compare it to today's standards it's just not a good videogame in any way. Technically, sure, but the game's design is still really solid. The levels are generally pretty open and allow for multiple ways to tackle them, and the mission objective structure is pretty novel and encourages exploration. And you get new objectives with each increasing level of difficulty. I'd say for a good decade or more after the 90s, FPS's were generally pretty dumbed down in favor of elaborate set pieces and funneling you through linear levels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, AbsolutSurgen said: I expect a mediocre 1997-era FPS would make for a bad 2023-era experience. 36 minutes ago, Bjomesphat said: Technically, sure, but the game's design is still really solid. The levels are generally pretty open and allow for multiple ways to tackle them, and the mission objective structure is pretty novel and encourages exploration. And you get new objectives with each increasing level of difficulty. I'd say for a good decade or more after the 90s, FPS's were generally pretty dumbed down in favor of elaborate set pieces and funneling you through linear levels. Longer than that IMO. I’d love more fps’s today to take cues. Levels are so much more replayable when the difficulty changes more than just the AI and health. I think the leaked 360 remaster looked like a great time, and plenty modern to be enjoyed today. Fingers crossed the Xbox release is that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I'll never win in this argument. I hope you guys enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Looking forward to the nostalgia trip this weekend. If any of you are playing let me know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, best3444 said: I'll never win in this argument. I hope you guys enjoy. I actually agree with you on some of your complaints. It kind of looked bad for the time, and needs dual analog to feel modern. There's even the issue of strafing being faster than normal walking. Calling it too small is silly though. It's at least as long as standard FPS campaigns today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 38 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: I actually agree with you on some of your complaints. It kind of looked bad for the time, and needs dual analog to feel modern. There's even the issue of strafing being faster than normal walking. Calling it too small is silly though. It's at least as long as standard FPS campaigns today. I forget the length but I remember the levels being kinda small. I won't touch this but it's cool I guess to try it for nostalgic purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, best3444 said: I forget the length but I remember the levels being kinda small. I won't touch this but it's cool I guess to try it for nostalgic purposes. For free yes. But no way am I going to upgrade my Nintendo online membership to play this lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShreddieMercury Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 4 player split screen Goldeneye would be more fun than about 95% of modern videogames so I'm not really understanding the whinging. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 This is the great thing about Games Pass. I'll give it a try for free and if it turns out it's aged like shit or the nostalgia just isn't there I can move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, ShreddieMercury said: 4 player split screen Goldeneye would be more fun than about 95% of modern videogames so I'm not really understanding the whinging. 12 minutes ago, Dodger said: This is the great thing about Games Pass. I'll give it a try for free and if it turns out it's aged like shit or the nostalgia just isn't there I can move on. Better than what I said above. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Darn, I just realized the Gamepass trailer definitely isn't the XBLA remaster: Sucks this will never see a commercial release. Maybe Nintendo blocked it or something stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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