Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Winning issue for Democrats. Time to solidify this state by state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Biden just needs to change his name to Pro Choice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Good. Abortion rights are a winning issue. Democrats shouldn’t be afraid to run on that. Plus it is the right thing to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ricofoley Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I think there's a lot of accumulating evidence that the GOP has pretty badly overplayed its hand with the Roe decision and has kinda fucked up what was looking like an extremely good election environment for them. Still a lot of time for those fed rate hikes to make the economy worse than it is before November though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: I think there's a lot of accumulating evidence that the GOP has pretty badly overplayed its hand with the Roe decision and has kinda fucked up what was looking like an extremely good election environment for them. Still a lot of time for those fed rate hikes to make the economy worse than it is before November though! It's been clear for some time that the dog catching a car metaphor is apt. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Folks you love to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 GOP: Quick! Let’s strike down same-sex, interracial marriage, and separate but equal! That should go over well. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I believe PA has an abortion vote coming up in November. If so, this gives me confidence that PA voters will strike that down too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 give me all your cope 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: give me all your cope Republicans get pissed when they can’t kill women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: give me all your cope Wasn't the Lecompton Constitution supposed to grant the right to slavery? The irony of this tweet is just delicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Quote Turnout for the primary also soared above usual levels Tuesday, and in some counties was closer to the participation usually seen in a presidential election. The in-person early vote, which tends to favor Democrats, was also nearly 250 percent higher than the last primary midterm election in 2018, when both Democrats and Republicans had competitive governors’ races, while the number of mail-in ballots was more than double. Republicans have to be looking at these numbers with dread. This is a huge loser for them. The question will be if voters turn out the same way for Democratic pro choice candidates as they did for this ballot question. In any case, this shows a path. Pro choice organizations need to run ballot initiatives everywhere they can. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Unaffiliated voters, which is a larger group than dems in KS, could only vote on this, so yeah, seems real bad for the GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 More numbers and analysis: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Ever so often I can actually cheer for the American people, and while the bar is low here, this is still one of those moments. Well done Kansas is not a combination of words I ever thought I'd type, but there it is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 So what I'm seeing is if Democrats actually voted we'd end a lot of this bullshit 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Like I said in the Dobbs thread, pretty much the only consolation I could find in the wake of the decision is the polling numbers showing that not only do a majority of people believe in some form of reproductive rights, (even a lot of otherwise conservative women) but young people overwhelmingly do. So while those rights might take a short-run hit in the wake of Dobbs, there's reason to believe they'll win out in the long run. And now maybe more Democrats will stop pussy-footing around and start actually working to pass legislation to protect those rights, instead of endlessly prevaricating so they can keep using the issue as a fundraising device. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Good on kansas. It was obvious the Kansas GOP was trying to sneak this through. It's great people finally had a shot to fire back and did so in large numbers. Hopefully this leads to democrats finding their balls for a change and realize it's a winning issue to take action instead of just paying lip service for fundraising. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Dems just have to tie every republican to these abortion laws going up in GOP states, and just keep hitting them on it over and over till november. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Just now, PaladinSolo said: Dems just have to tie every republican to these abortion laws going up in GOP states, and just keep hitting them on it over and over till november. But to do that they'd have to actually say the word abortion. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TUFKAK Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Clearly not real Americans who love Jeebus so ban them from voting or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 “Go vote is Democratic ‘thoughts and prayers’”, many a big brained genius here said or insinuated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, sblfilms said: “Go vote is Democratic ‘thoughts and prayers’”, many a big brained genius here said or insinuated Yeah, it's pretty hysterical. But I do sympathize: many people who hear, "Don't boo -- vote," already vote and talk with people who vote, so they feel like they can't vote any harder than they do. I get the frustration on this at least. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Yeah, it's pretty hysterical. But I do sympathize: many people who hear, "Don't boo -- vote," already vote and talk with people who vote, so they feel like they can't vote any harder than they do. I get the frustration on this at least. I do appreciate the tired feelings of those who do the work of fighting for what they believe in. It is not easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 This gives me a lot of confidence in the fall for PA, especially with Mastriano outright saying he’d ban abortion as Governor, with NO expeditions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Another thing to consider is this could be a multi-year turn out boom for Democrats if the issue proves durable. I am starting to think this could be a plausible outcome rather than voters forgetting about it in a few months. Even if Democrats lose in many places this mid term, the level of engagement might be permanently increased because of Dobbs which could help them into 2024 and beyond. Another interesting fact was at least one poll a week or so before the vote showed it split in the 40's with the yes votes having it slightly: Quote As things stand in the Co/efficient poll shared with FiveThirtyEight, 47% of the more than 1,500 voters sampled support the so-called “Value Them Both” amendment, and 43% are against it. The remaining 10% are undecided The results showed that a lot of the undecideds broke no, but more importantly that the poll was unable to capture the turn out which could mean that other polls may be underestimating Democratic support around the country. Perhaps I'm stretching things a bit, but this vote provides the first good evidence of how voters really feel about abortion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marioandsonic Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 50 minutes ago, Jason said: Dems are godawful at messaging. In other news, water is wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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