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1 hour ago, Comet said:


I love the threats. They’re chilling minding their own business and get a threat, maybe Russia will keep pushing everyone to join NATO at this rate. 

 

It won't be Russia directly - it will involve using their Serbian proxy.

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4 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

The more I think about it, the more I realize that large parts of Europe never really got past the end of WWI and the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian and Russian empires.

 

Europe -- or at least Central/Eastern Europe -- appears to be perpetually stuck in 1919.

Same could be said of the the fall of the Ottoman empire

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12 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said:

Same could be said of the the fall of the Ottoman empire

 

You're absolutely correct!

 

The morass that is Syria and Iraq can unquestionably be traced to the collapse of the Ottoman Sultanate. 

 

The fact of the matter is that we're more than a century past the end of the First World War, and we're still living (and dying) because of its still-unresolved aftermaths.

 

Hell, I'd go as far to say that the First World War never actually ended and what the world has experienced since then has merely been different iterations of its continuance.

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28 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

You're absolutely correct!

 

The morass that is Syria and Iraq can unquestionably be traced to the collapse of the Ottoman Sultanate. 

 

The fact of the matter is that we're more than a century past the end of the First World War, and we're still living (and dying) because of its still-unresolved aftermaths.

 

Hell, I'd go as far to say that the First World War never actually ended and what the world has experienced since then has merely been different iterations of its continuance.

 

The Spanish ReConquest was 800 years so this is very likely

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31 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

You're absolutely correct!

 

The morass that is Syria and Iraq can unquestionably be traced to the collapse of the Ottoman Sultanate. 

 

The fact of the matter is that we're more than a century past the end of the First World War, and we're still living (and dying) because of its still-unresolved aftermaths.

 

Hell, I'd go as far to say that the First World War never actually ended and what the world has experienced since then has merely been different iterations of its continuance.

Not too much of a stretch (though probably not the most historically accurate, it’s directionally correct) to take the intellectual foundation to the Norman conquest of England to the present day. The formation of the English conception and language of liberty leads pretty directly to the age of revolution which directly fuels the wars of self determination in Europe which haven’t really stopped 

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If there's one place the world that's dealt the best with the aftermath of imperial collapse, it's Africa.


The post-colonial African states recognized that any attempts to redraw the colonial borders along ethnographic lines would only result in never-ending wars and perpetual bloodshed.  The OAU's decision to preserve the colonial boundaries of its member states -- as imperfect as they were -- and instead work towards a pan-African/transnational governance and conflict resolution framework is something that the Global North in all of its arrogance has never appreciated.

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1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

If there's one place the world that's dealt the best with the aftermath of imperial collapse, it's Africa.


The post-colonial African states recognized that any attempts to redraw the colonial borders along ethnographic lines would only result in never-ending wars and perpetual bloodshed.  The OAU's decision to preserve the colonial boundaries of their states -- as imperfect as they were -- and instead work towards a pan-African/transnational governance and conflict resolution framework is something that the Global North in all of its arrogance has never appreciated.

And the crazy part is they’ve been like this since basically independence. I just read the Malcom X autobiography and he mentions something similar after discussions with local leaders when he visited several African nations on his way back from Mecca. 

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1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

And the crazy part is they’ve been like this since basically independence. I just read the Malcom X autobiography and he mentions something similar after discussions with local leaders when he visited several African nations on his way back from Mecca. 

 

Exactly.

 

The EU is a Johnny-come-lately compared to the African transnational movement.

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:
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Daily Beast contributing editor Craig Copetas says he’s been told that Putin has people tasting his food before he eats it and that last month, he replaced his entire personal staff of 1,000 people.

 

He's a tyrant in the truest sense of the word. History shows how that works out most of the time.

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1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

You're absolutely correct!

 

The morass that is Syria and Iraq can unquestionably be traced to the collapse of the Ottoman Sultanate. 

 

The fact of the matter is that we're more than a century past the end of the First World War, and we're still living (and dying) because of its still-unresolved aftermaths.

 

Hell, I'd go as far to say that the First World War never actually ended and what the world has experienced since then has merely been different iterations of its continuance.

 

You should do a podcast on the topic.

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2 minutes ago, CayceG said:

 

Agree. You're far more careful in how you select guests for your podcasts. You'd NEVER have Elon Musk or Malcolm Gladwell on. 

 

Exactly!
 

And I wouldn't get uncomfortably excited when discussing some of the most horrendous atrocities of human history and wish that I could build a time machine so I could witness them first-hand.

 

That's why Mike Duncan and Patrick Wyman are infinitely better historical podcasters.

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Russia's president revealed his peace conditions in a phone call - the BBC spoke to someone who listened in.

 

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The Russian demands fall into two categories.

 

The first four demands are, according to Mr Kalin, not too difficult for Ukraine to meet.

 

Chief among them is an acceptance by Ukraine that it should be neutral and should not apply to join Nato. Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has already conceded this.

 

There are other demands in this category which mostly seem to be face-saving elements for the Russian side.

 

Ukraine would have to undergo a disarmament process to ensure it wasn't a threat to Russia. There would have to be protection for the Russian language in Ukraine. And there is something called de-Nazification.

 

This is deeply offensive to Mr Zelensky, who is himself Jewish and some of whose relatives died in the Holocaust, but the Turkish side believes it will be easy enough for Mr Zelensky to accept. Perhaps it will be enough for Ukraine to condemn all forms of neo-Nazism and promise to clamp down on them.

 

The second category is where the difficulty will lie, and in his phone call, Mr Putin said that it would need face-to-face negotiations between him and President Zelensky before agreement could be reached on these points. Mr Zelensky has already said he's prepared to meet the Russian president and negotiate with him one-to-one.

 

Mr Kalin was much less specific about these issues, saying simply that they involved the status of Donbas, in eastern Ukraine, parts of which have already broken away from Ukraine and stressed their Russianness, and the status of Crimea.

 

 

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ISW analysis for 17 March 2022:

 

 
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Russian forces did not make any major advances and Ukrainian forces carried out several local counterattacks on March 17. Russian forces made little territorial progress and continued to deploy reserve elements—including from the 1st Guards Tank Army and

 

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Russian forces did not make any major advances and Ukrainian forces carried out several local counterattacks on March 17.[1] Russian forces made little territorial progress and continued to deploy reserve elements—including from the 1st Guards Tank Army and 810th Naval Infantry Brigade—in small force packets that are unlikely to prove decisive. Russian forces continue to suffer heavy casualties around Kharkiv, and Russian attempts to bypass the city of Izyum are unlikely to succeed. Russian forces continued assaults on Mariupol on March 17 but did not conduct any other successful advances from Crimea.

 

Key Takeaways

  • Russian forces continue to make steady territorial gains around Mariupol and are increasingly targeting residential areas of the city.
  • Ukrainian forces northwest of Kyiv launched several local counterattacks and inflicted heavy damage on Russian forces.
  • Ukrainian forces repelled Russian operations around Kharkiv and reported killing a regimental commander.
  • Ukrainian intelligence reports that Russia may have expended nearly its entire store of precision cruise missiles in the first twenty days of its invasion.
  • Russian forces deployed unspecified reserve elements of the 1st Guards Tank Army and Baltic Fleet Naval Infantry to northeastern Ukraine on March 17.
  • Russia may be parceling out elements of the reserve force that could conduct an amphibious operation along the Black Sea coast to support ongoing assaults on Mariupol, further reducing the likelihood of a Russian amphibious assault on Odesa.
  • Ukrainian forces shot down 10 Russian aircraft—including five jets, three helicopters, and two UAVs—on March 16, and Ukrainian forces continue to successfully contest Russian air operations.

Russian forces face mounting difficulties replacing combat casualties and replacing expended munitions. The Ukrainian General Staff stated on March 17 that Russian forces will begin another wave of mobilization for the Donetsk People’s Republic’s (DNR) 1st Army Corps on March 20.[2] Ukrainian intelligence continued to report Russian forces face difficulties manning both combat and support units and increasing desertion rates.[3] The General Staff further reported that Russian forces are increasingly using indiscriminate weapons against residential areas because they used almost their entire supply of “Kalibr” and “Iskander” cruise missiles in the first 20 days of the invasion.[4] It is unclear if the Ukrainian General Staff means Russian forces have used almost all precision munitions earmarked for the operation in Ukraine or almost all missiles in Russia’s total arsenal—though likely the former.

 

The Ukrainian Military Intelligence Directorate (GUR) reported several details on Russian efforts to recruit Syrian mercenaries on March 17.[5] The GUR reported that the Russian military ordered its base in Hmeimim, Syria to send up to 300 fighters from Syria to Ukraine daily. The GUR additionally reported that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has promised to recruit 40,000 Syrian fighters to deploy to Ukraine. The GUR reported Russian authorities are promising Syrian recruits that they will exclusively act as police in occupied territories. Finally, the GUR reported low morale among Syrian recruits, including several cases of self-mutilation to avoid being deployed, and claimed many fighters see deploying to Russia and Belarus as an opportunity to desert and migrate to the EU.

 

 

 

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Canada just announced a three-year temporary residency for any Ukrainians who apply. Basically, free entry into Canada (and ability to work while here, healthcare, school for kids) until they return home. I assume they can apply for permanent residency while here through the normal channels. Government expects the first people to arrive within three weeks, and is getting the UCC (Ukrainian Canadian Congress) to coordinate host families, etc.

 

We won't be hosting (don't speak Ukrainian) but I have signed up to help with food, helping navigate government services, shopping for clothes, etc.

 

 

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