thewhyteboar Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Biden is amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 The Liquid Swords tweet and The Onion are the only reasons he is popular right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Buttigieg/Abrams 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 Wayne Messam, the little-known mayor of Miramar, Florida, announces that he is running for president, launching a campaign that will look to accomplish the unlikely: Turning the mayor of the 140,000-person town into the next president of the United States. Miramar is in Broward County, sandwiched between Palm Beach/Miami-Dade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 This is a bit older: Republican Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan could take months to decide whether to challenge Trump in a primary Quote Hogan may not make up his mind on running for president until the fall, The Washington Post reported Monday. He wants to see whether GOP voters push for an alternative and what special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation reveals about the president. The former FBI director is wrapping up his probe into Moscow's efforts to influence the 2016 election and whether the Trump campaign coordinated with the Kremlin. Mueller is also looking into whether Trump obstructed justice. Quote Hogan, 62, won a second term leading the blue state in November by about a 12-point margin. He carried Maryland even as Democratic Sen. Ben Cardin won re-election by more than 30 percentage points. In the Post interview, Hogan billed himself as a traditional Republican with a more centrist bent. In an interview with CNBC last month, he said he disagreed with the national emergency Trump declared to divert federal money toward building a border wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 @Signifyin(g)Monkey Yang has some strange bedfellows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 After reading that blurb, I dont know how you can call him a bedfellow with a straight face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 42 minutes ago, Jose said: After reading that blurb, I dont know how you can call him a bedfellow with a straight face. Good thing I'm super serious. But Yang is also going to debate ben schaperio so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Wayne Messam, the little-known mayor of Miramar, Florida, announces that he is running for president, launching a campaign that will look to accomplish the unlikely: Turning the mayor of the 140,000-person town into the next president of the United States. Miramar is in Broward County, sandwiched between Palm Beach/Miami-Dade. Florida Man runs for president? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Booty surges to 4%, tied with Warren. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/436215-poll-biden-leads-2020-dem-field-by-double-digits-followed-by-sanders-and?__twitter_impression=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 38 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Booty surges to 4%, tied with Warren. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/436215-poll-biden-leads-2020-dem-field-by-double-digits-followed-by-sanders-and?__twitter_impression=true The poll provides Democrats with some other data to be optimistic about: Fifty-three percent of those surveyed said that they would not support President Trump in the 2020 election regardless of which Democrat wins the primary. The fuck? Only 53%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Amazatron said: The poll provides Democrats with some other data to be optimistic about: Fifty-three percent of those surveyed said that they would not support President Trump in the 2020 election regardless of which Democrat wins the primary. The fuck? Only 53%? O' sweet summer child . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, Amazatron said: The poll provides Democrats with some other data to be optimistic about: Fifty-three percent of those surveyed said that they would not support President Trump in the 2020 election regardless of which Democrat wins the primary. The fuck? Only 53%? 21 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: O' sweet summer child . . . But 53 percent of American voters say they definitely will not vote for Trump in the 2020 general election if he is the Republican candidate. Not just Democrats. Of all Americans. Also: Quote 67 - 23 percent that bipartisanship is an important factor; 71 - 24 percent that standing up to Republicans is important I feel like these are mutually exclusive. And anyone who wants to be bipartisan with these fucking Republican clowns is an absolute moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 beto has gone straight edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: But 53 percent of American voters say they definitely will not vote for Trump in the 2020 general election if he is the Republican candidate. Not just Democrats. Of all Americans. Haha I know it's of all Americans - my response remains the same that that surprises Amazatron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Meh, assumed the article talking about polling results for the Democratic field only included Democrat voters.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Amazatron said: Meh, assumed the article talking about polling results for the Democratic field only included Democrat voters.... It still wouldn't surprise me . . . to a degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Identity politics helped them win last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 @Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 14 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: @Signifyin(g)Monkey Yang has some strange bedfellows Well you know you're doing something right if a rapper named Baked Alaska (wtf?), much less a memelord, likes you. It's a sign; Yang's got this thing in the bag now, yo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 so glad Clinton and Obama hired this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I mean, he's also correct. And high income-tax rates aren't the best way to get money from them anyway. You can definitely raise those rates (and should), but you also need to massively increase capital gains rates, rates on dividends, and introduce a wealth tax. The wealthy are wealthy because of the money they already have, and that needs to be taxed and put back into the economy/society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 No he isn’t. Having less money will impact the ability of the rich to influence politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 57 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: No he isn’t. Having less money will impact the ability of the rich to influence politics. I mean that he is correct in that the ultra-rich will always have more than enough money to influence politics, unless you take away 99.9% of their existing wealth. But you are correct that reducing wealth overall will reduce the influence of many less-rich rich people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, RedSoxFan9 said: No he isn’t. Having less money will impact the ability of the rich to influence politics. They already have more than enough to live the life style they want. They would need to have significantly less money, to the point you have to have strict income and asset caps to actually hamper their ability to spend on politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 His argument is very much in the "well, it won't fix the problem 100%, so no point in doing it!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I've never seen the argument that we need more wealth taxes to reduce the outsized effect the wealthy have in politics, and I don't think it really follows. If there are wealthy people, they will be able to influence politics more than non-wealthy people. There are lots of ways to reduce that, like having publicly funded elections, reducing tax deductions for certain gifts, elinimanting super-pacs, changing lobbying rules, etc. but none of those rely on the premise that we're going to have fewer rich people or rich people that are slightly less rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 They’ll eventually find ways around those reforms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, ThreePi said: His argument is very much in the "well, it won't fix the problem 100%, so no point in doing it!" It is actually that it does nothing to fix the particular issue, so there is no point in doing it for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Higher wealth/income taxes to help reduce income/wealth inequality have the added side effect that it reduce the number of the “rich, but not insanely rich” people (i.e. those who are professional athlete level rich, a larger group than the Jeff bezos level rich of the world) from being able to easily spread their influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I’m surprised it’s not going head-to-head with the NBA finals or the all star game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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