osxmatt Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 How many segments will Fox News run suggesting this is foreshadowing Democrats in 2020? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, osxmatt said: How many segments will Fox News run suggesting this is foreshadowing Democrats in 2020? A lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Does anyone think if the UK successfully extracts themselves from the EU, that other countries will follow? Is there any other country in the EU that isn't happy with their position in the union at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Nevermind tomorrow - Corbyn resigns tonight. I don't think he is that bad but he should resign. I kinda like him. Not gonna lie this torpedoes my Bernie hopes though. I need to buy my Union Jack pajamas before the band breaks up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, osxmatt said: How many segments will Fox News run suggesting this is foreshadowing Democrats in 2020? Fox? MSNBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Just now, Jwheel86 said: Fox? MSNBC Gotta keep Republican lites in power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Great so now another third way Tory Blair motherfucker will lead the party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Is there any chance the exit polls could be wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 How is he so unpopular? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, SilentWorld said: Is there any chance the exit polls could be wrong? There are inherently wrong, but unfortunately they are totally accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Every left candidates is going to get uncritically and wrongly smeared like corbyn so just be ready for that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I'm not that familiar with British politics, but in the end I think the Labor thought that their economic message would overcome their poor messaging on Brexit. They were wrong. They needed a clear message and promote a clear alternative to Johnson's no plan Brexit and they couldn't, and frankly any party that couldn't do that probably didn't deserve to win. I feel like there is so much evidence and so many good arguments that any Brexit, and a hard Brexit in particular, is a really bad idea. Not taking a hard position on the most important topic of the day was bound to be problematic, though I wouldn't have guessed it would be this bad for them. I also think that's why this result doesn't have any real implications for the US election. If anything, the Democrats are the ones promoting plans of action. Whoever ends up winning the primary will have something of a plan for healthcare at the very least, something the GOP hasn't come up with since Obama stole their only idea. It also helps that there is much less required for the US vote to swing. Where the Conservatives have won the popular vote in the last two elections, Trump lost the popular vote. The electoral college will likely still act as a bit of a handicap, but still, the point is the elections will under very different circumstances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Kinda hard to say the brits don't want this now... It seems like they'll vote just to be done with the nonsense, consequences be damned. I don't think American voters are like that. Can't have helped that Corbyn was not only disliked but didn't really campaign to stop brexit. You can say he ran a left campaign on many issues but on the key issue here why would anyone pick Corbyn flavored brexit? It'd be like Bernie running a campaign saying Donald Trump isn't a racist and impeachment isn't necessary... ah shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 maybe its naivety but it seems the world is full of dumbasses who vote against their own interests not just america Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zaku3 said: How is he so unpopular? IRA, antisemitism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Irony is Boris' campaign slogan is "Get Brexit Done" and this result will drag Brexit out forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Irony is Boris' campaign slogan is Get Brexit done and this result will drag Brexit out forever. Well now there's no excuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Irony is Boris' campaign slogan is "Get Brexit Done" and this result will drag Brexit out forever. I dunno I don't see how he lacks the vote for whatever he wants. It was thin before but a 50 seat majority now? It's dealer's choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I wish the Liberal Democrats were a bigger deal there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Labour was effectively wiped out in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Anathema- said: I dunno I don't see how he lacks the vote for whatever he wants. It was thin before but a 50 seat majority now? It's dealer's choice. He's got 11 months to get a trade deal done with the EU, if it can't get done by then they have to extend or hard brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 is there a bugs bunny florida type gif but for UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: He's got 11 months to get a trade deal done with the EU, if it can't get done by then they have to extend or hard brexit. Boris will happily hard brexit and the conservatives will follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Labour was effectively wiped out in Scotland. WHY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, Massdriver said: I wish the Liberal Democrats were a bigger deal there. Now we will never know what skills wallets will do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: WHY Because the SNP outflanks them from the Left and Corbyn's ambivalence about Brexit did not play well in pro-EU Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 Imagine going back to say, 1750 and showing British nobility of the day what has happened to the world's most powerful empire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Boris will happily hard brexit and the conservatives will follow. A lot the seats that Labour lost, strong labour seats, are still Labour and aren't crazy Brexiteers. Boris is going to have to closely evaluate where his party is at since this is such a massive shift, Conservative Remainers and the Labour Conservatives could kill his majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 3rd parties fuck the UK again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Imagine going back to say, 1750 and showing British nobility of the day what has happened to the world's most powerful empire. I'd be pissed. They'd probably execute you though. However I feel two devestating world wars and the rise of a desire for self governance would have killed it eventually. Even the one world war was pretty bad for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Mcsaros Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 How much has changed since 2017, what a disaster for Labour. Any live streams of BBC coverage in US? Listening to LBC radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jay Mcsaros said: How much has changed since 2017, what a disaster for Labour. Any live streams of BBC coverage in US? Listening to LBC radio. Not that I'm aware of, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay Mcsaros said: How much has changed since 2017, what a disaster for Labour. Any live streams of BBC coverage in US? Listening to LBC radio. Not BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 It’s not over until the fat lady sings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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