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AbsolutSurgen Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: In this country it does. "We know you guys want to have your nice peaceful protest but those damned white anarchists give us no choice, we must deploy the full power of the state and crack skulls indiscriminately" I’ll be honest in that I have no idea what point you are trying to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 The point is the state has a history of blaming "outside agitators" to gather political support for crackdowns The "outside agitator" narrative doesn't even hold up to scrutiny on even a paper thin level as we're a broken country with 25+% unemployment, a pandemic running wild and no public health care, and little to no support for those unemployed (something like 45% of all unemployment claims are either still in queue or denied at this point) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Firewithin Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Of all the stupid and tone deaf ahit that's been posted this week the fucking NFL may be taking the crown 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Firewithin said: Of all the stupid and tone deaf ahit that's been posted this week the fucking NFL may be taking the crown That's definitely Mayo Pete-level banal nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Ignore the top tweet, that's been posted already. Look at the bottom one... people on the ground are suspicious of a lot of these "allies". Just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skillzdadirecta Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just got off the phone with my brother who was at a protest near us, he said police are letting locals through but are turning cars away with people that...don't look like locals, I'll just say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 She's permanently lost sight in her left eye because it took a rubber bullet while she was photographing protests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The point is the state has a history of blaming "outside agitators" to gather political support for crackdowns The "outside agitator" narrative doesn't even hold up to scrutiny on even a paper thin level as we're a broken country with 25+% unemployment, a pandemic running wild and no public health care, and little to no support for those unemployed (something like 45% of all unemployment claims are either still in queue or denied at this point) USA Today is saying their reporters are seeing groups of organized white people committing violence and destroying cities in multiple cities, on multiple nights. Are you suggesting that they are doing this to gather political support for crackdowns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 OK, this is DEFINITELY one of those "right-wing infiltrators". The "Task Force Igloo" patch is linked to the far-right "Boogaloo" movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 16 hours ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: The Police Explorers in riot gear has got to be in the Top 10 of "Honkiest Shit Ever". I shared that Tweet on Facebook and got "fact checked" F.Y.I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I shared that Tweet on Facebook and got "fact checked" F.Y.I. Soon you'll be able to sue 'em about that! Alright - they were adults Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 56 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Black people aren’t allowed to protest in any form, any level of injustice. Just imagine the response if crowd of mostly Black Americans surrounded a Governor’s office with rifles in hand. it infuriates me. I’m not even Black. But I hate that if flies in the face of what both sides say America is all about. Protesting injustice is part of what America is about, but it seems it is reserved for a very pale group, while everyone should STFU and be ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: USA Today is saying their reporters are seeing groups of organized white people committing violence and destroying cities in multiple cities, on multiple nights. Are you suggesting that they are doing this to gather political support for crackdowns? Yes. The data on arrests in the twin cities area doesn't support the outside agitator theory. Who do you think gets the heel of the boot of the state once crackdowns start? That's why there was the emphasis on "these people are from out of state" because leaders don't get cover for going against their own people, especially protests that are in reaction to state violence. This doesn't mean there are not locals who aren't taking advantage of the situation, but they're not outsiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: Black people aren’t allowed to protest in any form, any level of injustice. Just imagine the response if crowd of mostly Black Americans surrounded a Governor’s office with rifles in hand. I believe the Black Panthers did just that (or something very similar), and it caused major gun reform, supported by the NRA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: USA Today is saying their reporters are seeing groups of organized white people committing violence and destroying cities in multiple cities, on multiple nights. Are you suggesting that they are doing this to gather political support for crackdowns? We don't trust American authorities to be particularly discriminating between those expressing their justifiable rage at the system and the "accelerationists" on the left (Black Bloc anarchists) and the right (the "Boogaloo" movement) who want the authorities to crack down harder in order to further their goals of societal destabilization. So, in that sense, you're correct that at least certain elements of these groups that are committing these actions with an ulterior political goal. And naturally, any such crack down will fall FAR harder on the former group because they're predominantly from minority communities - they're gonna feel the fist of the state first and foremost which will inevitably trigger more rage at the system, leading to more social unrest, etc. etc. etc. The latter groups can simply fade back into the larger society because of their lily-white skin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: We don't trust American authorities to be particularly discriminating between those expressing their justifiable rage at the system and the "accelerationists" on the left (Black Bloc anarchists) and the right (the "Boogaloo" movement) who want the authorities to crack down harder in order to further their goals of societal destabilization. So, in that sense, you're correct that at least certain elements of these groups that are committing these actions with an ulterior political goal. And naturally, any such crack down will fall FAR harder on the former group because they're predominantly from minority communities - they're gonna feel the fist of the state first and foremost which will inevitably trigger more rage at the system, leading to more social unrest, etc. etc. etc. The latter groups can simply fade back into the larger society because of their lily-white skin. And also: the Venn diagram of cops and right wing agitators is a perfect circle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Maybe she shouldn't have been hanging around with all those organized white people causing mischief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: We don't trust American authorities to be particularly discriminating between those expressing their justifiable rage at the system and the "accelerationists" on the left (Black Bloc anarchists) and the right (the "Boogaloo" movement) who want the authorities to crack down harder in order to further their goals of societal destabilization. So, in that sense, you're correct that at least certain elements of these groups that are committing these actions with an ulterior political goal. And naturally, any such crack down will fall FAR harder on the former group because they're predominantly from minority communities - they're gonna feel the fist of the state first and foremost which will inevitably trigger more rage at the system, leading to more social unrest, etc. etc. etc. The latter groups can simply fade back into the larger society because of their lily-white skin. Authorities, whether America, Canadian, or European, allow peaceful protests and marches to go forward. There is a certain level of tolerance to violence, looting and burning. That is no longer what is happening in American cities at night. The focus is now changing -- and is being partially taken over by people who are less concerned about what happened to George Floyd, and are more concerned with causing chaos. In the past, most of the "anarchists" are white -- and I don't see why this changes here. IMHO, the justifiable cause/frustration of black Americans is partially being co-opted by white left-wing anarchist Americans at night who want to see cities burn. This happened in my city 10 years ago, and IMHO I'm seeing it happened again across the US today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Just lol AND NOW FOR HISTORICAL CONTEXT! Prince Jean (Count of Paris/King Jean IV of France) is the current head of the House of Orléans, a dynasty that ruled France from July 1830 until the Revolution of 1848. His ancestor Louis Philippe I assumed the throne after the death of Charles X who was a member of House of Bourbon, the dynasty that ruled France for most of its history until Louis XVI lost his head during the French Revolution. Yesterday, Louis Alphonse of Bourbon (Duke of Anjou/King Charles XX of France) the current head of the House of Bourbon tweeted out how so very much he'd like the statue's hand to be returned: Now note the difference in tone between yesterday's tweet from Orléans Jean's tweet and the one from today AFTER the tweet from Bourbon Louis -- it's markedly different! What you're seeing is literally the rivalry between two practically defunct French royal houses being played out within the context of our current civil strife! You simply CANNOT make this shit up! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chollowa Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Fargo Riots I was surprised to see people protesting in Fargo. But from what I've seen on Twitter there are protests everywhere today. Also, the guys jumping on the squad cars and kicking in the windows are pretty stupid. Seems like it kicks off with one bottle thrown and then the bottles start coming in greater number. I can see how this can escalate to tear gas and riot gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 27 minutes ago, Brick said: I believe the Black Panthers did just that (or something very similar), and it caused major gun reform, supported by the NRA. Yes, it happened in 1967 when armed Black Panthers exercised their 2nd Amendment rights and entered the California capitol building in Sacramento. The result was newspaper headlines like this: Which lead to the passage of the Mulford Act which was supported by the NRA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: The focus is now changing -- and is being partially taken over by people who are less concerned about what happened to George Floyd, and are more concerned with causing chaos. In the past, most of the "anarchists" are white -- and I don't see why this changes here. IMHO, the justifiable cause/frustration of black Americans is partially being co-opted by white left-wing anarchist Americans at night who want to see cities burn. This happened in my city 10 years ago, and IMHO I'm seeing it happened again across the US today. And this being the United States of America, public pressure from "decent civil society" will compel the political leadership at all levels to lower the threshold for the acceptable use of forceful measures which will again fall disproportionately on minority communities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Authorities, whether America, Canadian, or European, allow peaceful protests and marches to go forward. There is a certain level of tolerance to violence, looting and burning. That is no longer what is happening in American cities at night. The focus is now changing -- and is being partially taken over by people who are less concerned about what happened to George Floyd, and are more concerned with causing chaos. In the past, most of the "anarchists" are white -- and I don't see why this changes here. IMHO, the justifiable cause/frustration of black Americans is partially being co-opted by white left-wing anarchist Americans at night who want to see cities burn. This happened in my city 10 years ago, and IMHO I'm seeing it happened again across the US today. The point is that this isn't an isolated incident, it happens everywhere, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. And once that back is broken, there's no telling where these things go. But that the response from even goddamn democrats is pray for a calm quick end and failing that repression, instead of reforms and meaningful changes, does not bode well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I didn't know people were protesting in my area. Supposedly, it was peaceful until a small younger crowd threw water bottles and then police in riot gear showed up and things escalated to pepper spray pretty quickly. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pennlive.com/news/2020/05/protester-violence-at-harrisburgs-george-floyd-rally-could-have-been-prevented-if-not-for-riot-police.html%3foutputType=amp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 ABoomersAB Getting your ride destroyed to own the libs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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