b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Why did the protesters trash CNN headquarters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, elbobo said: Why did the protesters trash CNN headquarters? There's an Atlanta PD sub-station inside the CNN Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 55 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: https://thegrio.com/2020/05/29/masked-white-man-smashes-minneapolis-autozone-windows/ 14 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, SimpleG said: Any follow up on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: Any follow up on this? Should of done my home work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 THIS. ISN'T. HELPING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: THIS. ISN'T. HELPING While this isnt helping anything , he needs to remember that just because you ask no one is required to tell you anything much less the truth.White folks need to break themselves of this habit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Now we're talking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I’m conflicted and honestly don’t know that I have the words to describe how I feel. I don’t think destruction and looting and rioting is the answer, but when you peacefully protest for a generation, and it feels like nothing has changed, what choice do you feel like you have. And when you feel that capitalism, materialism, and the system/institutions *are* the problem, you feel like their destruction is the solution. And it’s not happening in a vacuum. 105,000 Americans are dead. 40 million unemployed. A nationwide quarantine for 2.5 months. 3.5 years of Trump. It’s all kindling. You kneel and that’s not right way to do it. You peacefully assemble and nothing changes. You riot and are labeled criminals. It starts to feels like society, institutions, and their responses are designed to insulate themselves from any significant structural change. And maybe 2020 is a turning point. Maybe this time things will be different. But if you look at large fundamental change and restructuring throughout history, much of it was accomplished *because* of violence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 The destruction in Portland is bad. I don't know that I've seen in on this level during my lifetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 A significant reason I will NEVER call myself a "liberal" is because of their nonsensical squeamishness regarding the (sometimes) necessity of violence. Unless it comes to drone strikes on foreigners - American liberals seem to be totally down with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 So it's confirmed the rioting and looting is from the right wing/police allies (There's a lot of legitimate anger and there's also plenty of agitprop and opportunists to be clear) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS MAN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: A significant reason I will NEVER call myself a "liberal" is because of their nonsensical squeamishness regarding the (sometimes) necessity of violence. Unless it comes to drone strikes on foreigners - American liberals seem to be totally down with that. While I agree with you , most of these Liberals come from a position where they havent had to be violent. A place where traffic stop for a moving violation is the most contact they have had with law enforcement and its likely to take 10 mins and ends with the officer telling them to have a nice day. You cant expect someone like that to just pick up a brick and start hurling it at riot control or to start a violent uprising because they simply dont understand because they have never had to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, ort said: WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS MAN? Tiny Hands Syndrome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spawn_of_Apathy Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, SimpleG said: While this isnt helping anything , he needs to remember that just because you ask no one is required to tell you anything much less the truth.White folks need to break themselves of this habit. No, no. If you’re a cop you have to tell me. Otherwise it’s entrapment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Great account of "The Battle for Minneapolis" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Columbia, SC: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Guys, we’ve all wanted to know the Hulkster’s thoughts, and he didn’t disappoint: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Oh yeah, governor, that will TOTALLY DEFUSE the situation alright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/30/oakland-courthouse-shooting-george-floyd-protest Quote A federal contract security officer was killed and another injured in a shooting outside the US courthouse in Oakland, the FBI said on Saturday. A vehicle pulled up outside the Ronald V Dellums Federal Building at about 9:45pm on Friday and someone opened fire at the contract security officers who worked for the Federal Protective Service of the Department of Homeland Security, authorities said. The identities of the officers were not released and there was no word on the condition of the wounded officer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 'There are anarchists': Minnesota officials say 'outside agitators' are hijacking peaceful protests Quote Most of them appear to be white. They carry no signs and don't want to speak to reporters. Trailed by designated "medics" with red crosses taped to their clothes, these groups head straight for the front lines of the conflict. Night after night in this ravaged city, these small groups do battle with police and the National Guard, kicking away tear gas canisters and throwing back foam-rubber projects fired at them. Around them, fires break out. Windows are smashed. Parked cars destroyed. USA TODAY reporters have witnessed the groups on multiple nights, in multiple locations. Sometimes they threaten those journalists who photograph them destroying property. The mayor and governor say outside agitators are hijacking peaceful protestsover the death of George Floyd and literally fanning the flames of destruction. And experts say things will likely get worse in Minneapolis and in other cities seeing similar peaceful protests that turn violent like Los Angeles; Louisville, Kentucky; Des Moines, Iowa; Detroit, Atlanta; and Washington, D.C. “The real hard-core guys, this is their job: They’re involved in this struggle," said Adam Leggat, a former British Army counterterrorism officer who now works as a security consultant specializing in crowd management for the Densus Group. "They need protests on the street to give them cover to move in.” .... Leggat, the security consultant, said intelligence reports from his colleagues indicate most of the hard-core protesters in Minneapolis are far-left or anarchists, and that far-right groups have not yet made a significant appearance. He said looting is typically done by locals – usually people with no criminal record who just get caught up in the moment. But direct conflicts with authorities come from a mix of both locals and outside groups who see these conflicts as a core part of their mission. Many of the anarchists, he said, target banks, chain-type businesses and even luxury cars as symbols of corrupt institutions. He said even a peaceful protest can turn violent if outside agitators decide to participate, hijacking the message. "The difficulty is that you have no control over who turns up," he said. "If this was to continue to go on, more people will come. And potentially you could have people on the right turning up, which would make things far more complicated. If those guys turn up, they will claim to be there to protect business. But it means the police will have two groups to keep apart. And that uses up a lot of police resources." This feels very much like the 2010 G20 protests in Toronto, where the locals were largely peaceful, but white left-wing anarchists were doing most of the violence/destruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: 'There are anarchists': Minnesota officials say 'outside agitators' are hijacking peaceful protests This feels very much like the 2010 G20 protests in Toronto, where the locals were largely peaceful, but white left-wing anarchists were doing most of the violence/destruction. Erasure of black grievance, and a bullshit narrative anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Like look into the history of claims of "outside agitation" in this country before you listen to anything from any level of our government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Some more context for the KARE11 reporting: Now, St. Paul is a different county (Ramsey) than Hennepin but they are seeking to obtain those arrest records as well. Also, there doesn't appear to be any racial information in the data. Bottom-line: don't believe the state (blaming right-wing agitators) or the Feds (blaming left-wing agitators). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Erasure of black grievance, and a bullshit narrative anyway That’s a hot take. Anarchists joining in does nothing to minimize any black grievances. The story specifically refers to USA Today reporters seeing the groups themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Still ACAB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 In addition, the actual quote from the St. Paul police chief was "Every single person we arrested last night, I'm told, was from out of state." If the intent is to insinuate that non-Minnesotans are the agitators of the unrest, then you'd better have that information at the ready if you're questioned about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: That’s a hot take. Anarchists joining in does nothing to minimize any black grievances. The story specifically refers to USA Today reporters seeing the groups themselves. In this country it does. "We know you guys want to have your nice peaceful protest but those damned white anarchists give us no choice, we must deploy the full power of the state and crack skulls indiscriminately" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Firewithin said: Still ACAB This is another example of what we've seen quite a bit of in the last few days/weeks: a fairly large segment of the population is no longer recognizing the authority of law enforcement, and by extension the legitimacy of the "state". I'm also including the anti-lockdown protests in that statement as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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