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Speaking of Kabul, in the last like week and a half an entire Company of Afghans soldiers was wiped out, the US bombed one of their bases in an accidental fire fight, and 150 afghan soldiers were chased into Turkmenistan and captured, all while negotiating peace with the Taliban.

 

That MOAB sure did the trick ehh fellas?

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On 3/19/2019 at 10:06 AM, RedSoxFan9 said:

Trump is not as bad as Bush

 

If only because Trump hasn’t had to respond to a major terrorist attack under his watch yet. I would be scared to see his response to attack the size of 9/11. None the less, he’s still authorizing way more drone strikes than Bush ever did.

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There were 100% valid reasons that Saddam Hussein was a bad leader and needed to be removed...and they were all countered by the plan to just remove him and see what happens. There were no credible alternatives to him as leader of the country. It's like wanting to get rid of Lenin when Stalin is waiting in the wings.

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19 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

There were 100% valid reasons that Saddam Hussein was a bad leader and needed to be removed...and they were all countered by the plan to just remove him and see what happens. There were no credible alternatives to him as leader of the country. It's like wanting to get rid of Lenin when Stalin is waiting in the wings.

 

Additionally, it seemed hypocritical at the time (and was called out as such) that the US felt they had to depose Saddam Hussein because he was a brutal dictator, when there were plenty of other, even more brutal dictators that could have used opposing, chief among them North Korea, that we were clearly ignoring. Between that hypocrisy, the lie of WMD's, the clear motive for oil, and the genuine lack of a connection between Iraq and 9/11 means the Republican-led US government used the worst tragedy in American history to cajole the populace into supporting a war that ended up killing thousands of people (Americans included) for a fossil fuel resource.

 

It's one of the most fucked up things a government can do to its population. What's worse is when you consider the fact that the Republicans literally stole the 2000 election by using a Republican-controlled Supreme Court to give the decision in Bush v. Gore to George W. Bush which made him president when it was later found out on recount that Gore won Florida and thus, should have been president. It's very interesting that twice now Republicans have won the presidency only thanks to the electoral college, and not the popular vote, in the last twenty years. 

 

And, for these and many other reasons, here we are. 

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