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10 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

I don't even get his point.

 

 

Yeah, I was having some trouble, too.

 

It seems like maybe he is being kind of sarcastic and saying something along the lines of, "Sure, you want to weep for these government workers and how they have it so bad. But if things were really that bad for them you'd have to be grateful to the cash lenders that are helping them through their financial struggles."

 

I don't even know if the guy is a conservative, but if he is and that's the mindset he's coming from....I think that would be his point.

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21 minutes ago, Chairslinger said:

 

 

Yeah, I was having some trouble, too.

 

It seems like maybe he is being kind of sarcastic and saying something along the lines of, "Sure, you want to weep for these government workers and how they have it so bad. But if things were really that bad for them you'd have to be grateful to the cash lenders that are helping them through their financial struggles."

 

I don't even know if the guy is a conservative, but if he is and that's the mindset he's coming from....I think that would be his point.

 

He's the head of the Mercatus Center at GMU.

 

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In the mid-eighties, the Kochs provided millions of dollars to George Mason University, in Arlington, Virginia, to set up another think tank. Now known as the Mercatus Center, it promotes itself as “the world’s premier university source for market-oriented ideas—bridging the gap between academic ideas and real-world problems.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2010/08/30/covert-operations

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-shutdown-is-hurting-trumps-approval-rating-but-will-it-hurt-him-in-2020

 

It's pretty impressive how far down his approval ratings have gone. It hasn't helped that during the shutdown, news of the FBI investigating him specifically came out and stocks were running wild. 

 

It's also interesting to see how much more gradual increases and decreases are now compared to decades ago when you could see some major drops and spikes in a short period of time.

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16 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

silver-SHUTDDOWN-0117.png?w=575

 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-shutdown-is-hurting-trumps-approval-rating-but-will-it-hurt-him-in-2020

 

It's pretty impressive how far down his approval ratings have gone. It hasn't helped that during the shutdown, news of the FBI investigating him specifically came out and stocks were running wild. 

 

It's also interesting to see how much more gradual increases and decreases are now compared to decades ago when you could see some major drops and spikes in a short period of time.

The funny thing is Trump is so focused on the stock market that he doesn't realize what will likely really do him in is shit like the shut down which his base is going to far more damage from than the markets.

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2 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said:

This needs 60 votes apparently, lol.

 

Attach the House spending bill to a potential bill to have the SOTU in the Senate chamber.

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On 1/16/2019 at 9:07 AM, 2user1cup said:

I hope DC TSA walks off the job Friday afternoon right before senators try and catch their flights

 

I want to upvote this more. They honestly should. All of TSA across the nation should say fuck it and force the issue for these assholes. Yeah, short term we will all suffer a lot, but at least it might have an impact.

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It's possible for airports to not have TSA perform security operations.  Several airports instead have private firms do the work the TSA normally does, including checkpoint screening.  I believe they simply have to follow TSA regulations/guidelines.  I wonder if something like the current shutdown will spurn more airports to switch to private firms over the TSA?

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19 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

It's possible for airports to not have TSA perform security operations.  Several airports instead have private firms do the work the TSA normally does, including checkpoint screening.  I believe they simply have to follow TSA regulations/guidelines.  I wonder if something like the current shutdown will spurn more airports to switch to private firms over the TSA?

 

Normally replacing government employees with contractors results in shittier pay for shittier performance...but can either get worse for TSA employees?

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It is amazing that ONE person has the power to decide whether a chamber in Congress is allowed to perform their job or not. Is there any way for the Senate to override the Senate majority leader and vote on this bill? Otherwise they need to abolish that position or change how bills are brought onto the Senate floor for a vote.

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5 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said:

The implication is that payday loans helps alleviate temporary hardship so you'd better not be "logically inconsistent" about it!

 

 

Basically the, "The great fire of Rome proved you should have been grateful for Crassus' personal fire department all along" of arguments.

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1 hour ago, mclumber1 said:

It's possible for airports to not have TSA perform security operations.  Several airports instead have private firms do the work the TSA normally does, including checkpoint screening.  I believe they simply have to follow TSA regulations/guidelines.  I wonder if something like the current shutdown will spurn more airports to switch to private firms over the TSA?

 

Guess who has to approve bringing in private security instead of TSA? 

 

Spoiler

TSA! 

 

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29 minutes ago, Subzwari1987 said:

It is amazing that ONE person has the power to decide whether a chamber in Congress is allowed to perform their job or not. Is there any way for the Senate to override the Senate majority leader and vote on this bill? Otherwise they need to abolish that position or change how bills are brought onto the Senate floor for a vote.

 

Agreed, it's ridiculous and a major flaw. Members should have the ability to bring votes to the floor through a variety of mechanisms.

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The petulance of trying to get back at her over postponing the SOTU, the needless capitalization, framing commercial air as some sort of indignity to suffer...That's Trump through and through. He probably felt so fucking clever dictating that to one of his press shop lackeys.

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1 minute ago, Chris- said:

The petulance of trying to get back at her over postponing the SOTU, the needless capitalization, framing commercial air as some sort of indignity to suffer...That's Trump through and through. He probably felt so fucking clever dictating that to one of his press shop lackeys.

 

He didn't personally type this, as he doesn't know how to use a computer.  The best part about him dictating this to some secretary or aide is that he either made them capitalize random words, or they did it for him after the fact. 

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2 minutes ago, Chris- said:

The petulance of trying to get back at her over postponing the SOTU, the needless capitalization, framing commercial air as some sort of indignity to suffer...That's Trump through and through. He probably felt so fucking clever dictating that to one of his press shop lackeys.

 

The letter basically amounts to:

 

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39 minutes ago, Jason said:

lol apparently the trip was classified

 

 

announcing national security secrets on twitter to own the libs

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When you boil it down, Pelosi pulled a political move, and Trump responded with one.

 

The reason Trump loses again, is because Pelosi can plausibly say she cancelled the speech for security concerns, but Trump created security concerns by cancelling Pelosi's trip.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Pelosi fully expected him to do what he did today and had the talking points ready. She's like a matador leading Trump around with a shiny red sheet.

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29 minutes ago, Chairslinger said:

When you boil it down, Pelosi pulled a political move, and Trump responded with one.

 

The reason Trump loses again, is because Pelosi can plausibly say she cancelled the speech for security concerns, but Trump created security concerns by cancelling Pelosi's trip.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Pelosi fully expected him to do what he did today and had the talking points ready. She's like a matador leading Trump around with a shiny red sheet.

She know's she gets under his skin because he has problems with... powerful people from California...;)

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