best3444 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, stepee said: Tbf what combat gameplay there is in AW2 is very good and feels great to play. It’s just there isn’t a lot of combat. True. The controls and combat are well done but it's nothing phenomenal. Imo, BG3 should be the GOTY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I now hope somehow AW2 wins the game awards just for the pure salllllllllt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, stepee said: I now hope somehow AW2 wins the game awards just for the pure salllllllllt I hope it doesn't because it is a hipster game and undeserving of recognition much like the first game. For the next 10 hours, we are mortal enemies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 LETS GOOOOO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I'm 8 hours into Alan Wake 2. Unless it does something truly spectacular it's not a GOTY type game. It’s a very well done game in it's genre and I hope it sells well for Remedy. But Zelda or BG3 deserve the GOTY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 OK, but I'd rather see Alan Wake 2 win over Zelda. I want nothing more than for nu-Zelda to end and for the Classic Era to make its return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Bacon said: OK, but I'd rather see Alan Wake 2 win over Zelda. I want nothing more than for nu-Zelda to end and for the Classic Era to make its return. I absolutely fuckin agree. The open world Zelda game needs to stop. Go back to the traditional style with incredible dungeons and more polish for a smaller world. Unfortunately these two open world versions did extremely well so Nintendo may not go back. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I'll even take more ALBW. I say that like it's lesser, but it was a great game. Best Zelda since WW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, Bacon said: OK, but I'd rather see Alan Wake 2 win over Zelda. I want nothing more than for nu-Zelda to end and for the Classic Era to make its return. You're not going to get that from The Game Awards, lol 7 minutes ago, Bacon said: I'll even take more ALBW. I say that like it's lesser, but it was a great game. Best Zelda since WW. ALBW is great, but was the best Zelda since Skyward Sword at the time. From someone who speaks so highly of old Zelda, I thought you'd prefer better dungeons. WW's are only a notch above BoTW's, and still a step below ToTK's. And its combat is much worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: You're not going to get that from The Game Awards, lol ALBW is great, but it's the best Zelda since Skyward Sword. From someone who speaks so highly of old Zelda, I thought you'd prefer better dungeons. WW's are the worst in the 3D series. WW is the first game I ever beat so And I 100% think WW is a better game than TP or SS. TP is the most boring Zelda, and SS is just not good outside of its dungeons. I hate the bird flying, I hate the introduction of stamina, I hated the music notes, I hated playing the harp, I did not care for the light beetles in TP nor did I care for SS's version of that where you lost your sword and shield and were on a timer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 10. Like A Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name 09. Resident Evil 4 Remake 08. Hi-Fi Rush 07. Jusant 06. Tchia 05. Humanity 04. Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon 03. Lies of P 02. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Spoiler 01. Alan Wake II (Note: Jacob admits that he didn't play Baldur's Gate III) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Crazy that people are making top 10 lists without even playing games that everyone acknowledges are top-3 contenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: 10. Like A Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased His Name 09. Resident Evil 4 Remake 08. Hi-Fi Rush 07. Jusant 06. Tchia 05. Humanity 04. Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon 03. Lies of P 02. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Reveal hidden contents 01. Alan Wake II (Note: Jacob admits that he didn't play Baldur's Gate III) hmm, he did give LoP 3rd... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 48 minutes ago, Bacon said: WW is the first game I ever beat so And I 100% think WW is a better game than TP or SS. TP is the most boring Zelda, and SS is just not good outside of its dungeons. I hate the bird flying, I hate the introduction of stamina, I hated the music notes, I hated playing the harp, I did not care for the light beetles in TP nor did I care for SS's version of that where you lost your sword and shield and were on a timer. Wind Waker has the presentation and story elements down pat. I found the rest of it to be underwhelming. The sea is proto-Breath of the Wild but sucked dry of any fun. At least half of the dungeons are far too much of a cakewalk, and the dungeon items lack creativity. Combat either boils down to spamming items or waiting to press A when prompted. The handling of random knick knacks and do-dads is probably the worst of any Zelda. I still love a lot about it, but its definitely the worst of the 3D ones to me. SS and TP are both flawed games as well. They both have pacing issues most notably. I found that even still, there was more to be engaged by them moment to moment. Disagree that SS isn't good outside of dungeons. Parts are much better than others, but the return to Lanayru in particular is one of the most brilliant sections in all of 3D Zelda. High-highs and low-lows in that game, you never know what you're going to get next. I'm much more willing to bat for SS with its warts than TP, if that says anything. But I still enjoyed TP a lot more than WW on the whole. Even when its combat leaned in harder to the button mashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, crispy4000 said: The sea is proto-Breath of the Wild but sucked dry of any fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Zelda gunna win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShreddieMercury Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 All these lists are fine, but I want to specifically single out Paste putting El Paso, Elsewhere at #2. That is an absolutely abysmal game from top to bottom. Probably the most disgusted I've been at a videogame (and its general reception) in many years. If you want to talk about inflated scores and the sad state of modern games criticism, look no further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 52 minutes ago, ShreddieMercury said: All these lists are fine, but I want to specifically single out Paste putting El Paso, Elsewhere at #2. That is an absolutely abysmal game from top to bottom. Probably the most disgusted I've been at a videogame (and its general reception) in many years. If you want to talk about inflated scores and the sad state of modern games criticism, look no further. Can you elaborate on why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 6 hours ago, stepee said: BG3 isn’t my kinda game tho so @best3444 Found the game @stepee doesn't like 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Just now, Keyser_Soze said: @best3444 Found the game @stepee doesn't like well it’s not my kind of game but I will give it a shot at some point because besides the combat I’d like to do the story stuff I dislike a lot of games tho it’s just I play a bunch and only talk about the ones I like usually - like I don’t like TOTK much 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, stepee said: well it’s not my kind of game but I will give it a shot at some point because besides the combat I’d like to do the story stuff I dislike a lot of games tho it’s just I play a bunch and only talk about the ones I like usually - like I don’t like TOTK much Lies of P on the OLED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Is Lies of P really all that good? I mean reviews for it seemed to be pretty good, but not overwhelmingly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Lies of P on the OLED I do really want to play it at some point, but I imagine I’ll need cheats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 The best games of 2023, picked by the NPR staff WWW.NPR.ORG 2023 broke video game industry records, both in the quantity and quality of acclaimed, financially successful games. NPR staff and contributors bring you their favorites. Quote 2023 has been the most notable gaming year in recent memory. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom broke sales records, alongside blockbusters like Baldur's Gate 3, Marvel's Spider-Man 2, Super Mario Bros. Wonder, Final Fantasy 16, Diablo 4, Street Fighter 6, Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, Resident Evil 4, Hogwarts Legacy and Dead Space. It's also been a tumultuous year for the people who make games. SAG-AFTRA union actors authorized a strike against the industry's largest companies. Microsoft closed the deal to buy Activision Blizzard King for $69 billion — the biggest gaming acquisition in history. And as the year wound down, more than 6,000 game developers lost their jobs amid a wave of layoffs. Throughout it all, NPR staff and contributors scrambled to review the year's unrelenting release schedule. Packed with modern spectacles, far-flung indies and revitalized classics, there's something for everyone on this list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 More Top 10 Lists from the editors/writers of The Gamer. Gabrielle Castania, Specialist Writer Game Of The Year Editor’s Pick, 2023 - Gabrielle Castania WWW.THEGAMER.COM And, in a shock to both me and my coworkers, less than half of them are farming sims! Quote Silent Hope Sun Haven Samba De Amigo: Party Central My Time At Sandrock Fae Farm Persona 5 Tactica Stray Gods: The Roleplaying Musical Story of Seasons: A Wonderful Life Persona 3 Portable GOTY Editor's Pick: The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Amanda Hurych, Lead Evergreen Editor Game Of The Year Editor's Pick, 2023 — Amanda Hurych WWW.THEGAMER.COM Here you go! Quote 10. Bramble: The Mountain King 09, Jusant 08. Diablo IV 07. Lies of P 06. Super Mario Bros. Wonder 05. Resident Evil 4 Remake 04. Venba 03. Dead Space Remake 02. Amnesia: The Bunker 01. GOTY Editor's Pick: Cocoon Sam Hallahan, Lead Video Producer Game Of The Year Editor’s Pick, 2023 - Sam Hallahan WWW.THEGAMER.COM Yes, these are pretty much all of those fancy big names - but a couple you might not expect to see so highly regarded. Quote Forspoken Final Fantasy XVI Resident Evil 4 Remake Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Diablo IV Teardown The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Lies of P Starfield GOTY Editor's Pick: Baldur's Gate III George Foster, Lead News Editor Game Of The Year Editor’s Pick, 2023 - George Foster WWW.THEGAMER.COM MultiVersus may have broken my heart, but 2023 was still an incredible year for gaming - here are my favourites. Quote Final Fantasy XVI Pizza Tower Super Mario Bros. Wonder Resident Evil 4 Remake Baldur's Gate III Dead Space Remake Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Super Mario RPG Street Fighter 6 GOTY Editor's Pick: Hi-Fi Rush Santi Leguiza, Evergreen Editor Game Of The Year Editor’s Pick, 2023 - Santi Leguiza WWW.THEGAMER.COM Do you want to know which games are the best this year? I got you covered! Quote Street Fighter 6 Resident Evil 4 Remake Bomb Rush Cyberfunk Wild Hearts Star Wars Jedi: Survivor The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Alan Wake 2 Final Fantasy XVI GOTY Editor's Pick: Baldur's Gate III Josh Coulson, Affiliates Editor Game Of The Year Editor’s Pick, 2023 - Josh Coulson WWW.THEGAMER.COM The definitive list of the very best games released in 2023. Oh, I'm deadly serious. Quote WrestleQuest Pikmin 4 Disney Illusion Island Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Final Fantasy XVI Jusant Super Mario Bros. Wonder Tchia Marvel's Spider-Man 2 GOTY Editor's Pick: The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Zoe J. Osik, Specialist Writer Game Of The Year Editor’s Pick, 2023 - Zoe J. Osik WWW.THEGAMER.COM Look, I like farming, okay? Sue me. Quote 10. Scene Investigators 09, Assassin’s Creed Mirage 08. Fae Farm 07. Starfield 06. My Time At Sandrock 05. Avatar: Frontiers Of Pandora 04. Coral Island 03. Disney Dreamlight Valley 02. Final Fantasy XVI 01. GOTY Editor's Pick: Baldur's Gate III Trevor Ford, Social Media Manager Game Of The Year Social Media Manager's Picks, 2023 - Trevor Ford WWW.THEGAMER.COM They wouldn’t let me make this a TikTok, so here’s a List Quote 10. Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon 09. Humaniy 08. Viewfinder 07. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor 06. Party Animals 05. Lies of P 04. Street Fighter 6 03. Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty 02. Lethal Company 01. GOTY Editor's Pick: Baldur's Gate III Quinton O'Connor Game Of The Year Editor's Pick, 2023 - Quinton O'Connor WWW.THEGAMER.COM I like RPGs. I even like some non-RPGs. 2023 had both RPGs and non-RPGs. In abundance. Quote Fire Emblem Engage Final Fantasy XVI Super Mario Bros. Wonder Cassette Beasts Theatrhythm Final Bar Line Paranormasight: The Seven Mysteries Of Honjo Octopath Traveler 2 Star Ocean: The Second Story R The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom GOTY Editor's Pick: Baldur's Gate III Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 From the ever-superb Gene Park: Best games of 2023: ‘Starfield,’ ‘Baldur’s Gate 3’ and more - The Washington Post WWW.WASHINGTONPOST.COM ‘Dredge,’ ‘Final Fantasy 16,’ ‘Lies of P’ and ‘Baldur’s Gate 3’ all make our critic’s list of the best games of the year. 10. Starfield 09. Bomb Rush Cyberfunk 08. Final Fantasy XVI 07. Dredge 06. Lies of P 05. Street Fighter 6 04. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom 03. Hi-Fi Rush 02. Baldur's Gate III Spoiler 01. Alan Wake II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 Here are some of the best video games of 2023 APNEWS.COM It’s been a terrific year for video games as developers hit their stride on the PlayStation 5 and Xbox X/S consoles. 10. Starfield 09. Shadow Gambit: The Cursed Crew @Brian 08. Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 07. Sea of Stars 06. Chants of Sennaar 05. Super Mario Bros. Wonder 04. Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty 03. Cocoon 02. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom Spoiler 01. Baldur's Gate III 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 GG Gene - fu AP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 The lack of AW2 on some lists warms my heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 2:29 PM, best3444 said: I absolutely fuckin agree. The open world Zelda game needs to stop. Go back to the traditional style with incredible dungeons and more polish for a smaller world. Unfortunately these two open world versions did extremely well so Nintendo may not go back. A brand new map would do wonders; even though TotK added so much it I had already explored the entire BotW portion before. With an upgraded Switch 2 they can increase the density and complexity even more, which could then mean a huge open world leading into huge dungeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said: A brand new map would do wonders; even though TotK added so much it I had already explored the entire BotW portion before. With an upgraded Switch 2 they can increase the density and complexity even more, which could then mean a huge open world leading into huge dungeons. Good point. I guess we won't find out until probably 2030 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Sorry, Tears of the Kingdom is the best Zelda title. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I mean, I love both types of Zelda. ALttP is probably still my favorite, but TotK is probably just behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Get over it. CoD sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 check restera if you want to see some cringe ass grandstanding on that subject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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