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thewhyteboar Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 The dumbest of dumbfucks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 This might wind up keeping Trump from running for president ever again 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Lolololol little marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, ThreePi said: Ken and Renato are like the two level-headed Twitter law dudes who always throw cold water on exciting news. So seeing them both kind of throw their hands up in confusion makes this feel extra-spicy. I mean, you definately get dueling impressions on this. You hear there's a raid and you think that must be a big fricking deal. Then you hear it's about the classified docs from that story from months ago that barely got any traction. Coupled with Trump's penchant for slipping out of consequences I think one is inclined to then think this is not THAT big of a deal. After all, there was and has been little talk of anything in this classified docs case that suggested much criminality....certainly not compared to all the other shit we know/suspect he did. But after that initial reaction I think you then have to come back around to the inevitable conclusion that something here is a big fricking deal. The FBI does not pull off this raid unless they think something is a big deal and by doing it they can prove it's a big deal. I remember discussing the classified docs case with someone a while back and we immediately went to talking about the hypocrisy of Hillary's emails, but I think we both kind of assumed this was a crime of ignorance by Trump. Then we kind if looked at each other and was like....yeah, but what if he was, actually selling secrets to other countries. A crazy thought, and I don't think much, if any, reporting at the time went there as far as speculation. If it were actually revealed that Trump was paying off his Russian debt by giving Putin state secrets I think I would be physically incapable of saying any words to a conservative the rest of my life other than "I fucking told you so!". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 The right is apoplectic and is downright dangerous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 @sblfilms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 What would suck is if we never actually get to learn exactly what classified documents were being searched for today because they were so highly classified. How would a trial work under those types of circumstances? Could the prosecution even talk about what was in these documents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The right is apoplectic and is downright dangerous I still blame the rightwing media much more than the politicians. They are spineless cowards with no integrity, but they have little in the way of actual influence anymore. They are riding the tiger. Do you know what happens to an elected Republican politician if they come and and tell the truth about Donald Trump? They become Liz Cheney and they ain't a Republican or an elected politician no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Dark Garland 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I am more than a little concerned about the right wing reaction to this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, CayceG said: I am more than a little concerned about the right wing reaction to this. Oh, believe me - I am VERY much concerned about it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Dark Garland STOP. JUST STOP WITH THESE "DARK [FILL IN THE BLANK] MEMES. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, CayceG said: I am more than a little concerned about the right wing reaction to this. It feels like someone is going to get shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, thewhyteboar said: It feels like someone is going to get shot. A lot of someone’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thewhyteboar Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: A lot of someone’s Well there's a nutjob parade currently ongoing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chairslinger Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, CayceG said: I am more than a little concerned about the right wing reaction to this. If the proverbial bandaid has to be ripped off at some point probably better now than when Trump is back in the White House. I cringe when I hear people talk about another Civil War because I think few appreciate just how horrific it would be.....but a rightwing reaction anywhere short of that is likely just going to reflect poorly on them. If they have a Jan. 6th on steroid level temper tantrum it's probably just going to turn even more people against them. At the end of the day, what will hopefully save us from full blown warfare is not respect for life or civic pride....it's that most Americans are too lazy to have an appetite for large scale bloodshed on our own soil. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Seemed like it was becoming more and more pundit conventional wisdom that Republicans were ready to move on from Trump and embrace DeSantis, and those takes are about to get tested real damn soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Sounds like the FBI would be pretty sure.of themselves. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: STOP. JUST STOP WITH THESE "DARK [FILL IN THE BLANK] MEMES. I REGRET NOTHING!!!!! 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Well there's a nutjob parade currently ongoing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, CayceG said: I am more than a little concerned about the right wing reaction to this. It’s terrifying. The fact that the rhetoric is so quick too. The media especially, they obviously know NOTHING right now yet they are practically trying to rally the troops to take over the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, SimpleG said: I REGRET NOTHING!!!!! f 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Well there's a nutjob parade currently ongoing. I hope they invade Mar a Lago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 30 minutes ago, CayceG said: This might wind up keeping Trump from running for president ever again Nope, shoulda caught this earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 We had one chance, ONE, and it died because Nancy took her fucking time on J6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: If they have a Jan. 6th on steroid level temper tantrum it's probably just going to turn even more people against them. I hope this time the government opens fire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Andrew over at the Opening Arguments podcast did a deep dive a few years back on examining almost all instances of when and when not these cases were prosecuted. He made a pretty convincing case that the deciding factor for whether a prosecution was pursued in these cases was how intentional such mishandling was. How much the person doing the mishandling knew they were mishandling the documents at the time, when and if they figured out they were, and what they did when they found out they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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