Jason Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Dave Chappelle speech calls teens who opposed trans jokes ‘instruments of oppression’ WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK Comedian said he felt ‘hurt’ after clashing with students during a Q&A at his former school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Greatoneshere Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Ah yes, the teens, those rich, powerful teens who can't even vote instituting the instruments of oppression. Not the baby boomers and the 1%. Of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 What a sad, brittle man he’s become. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 I feel like instead he could just work on making decent material to use instead of the stuff that is obviously not working well? He’s upset people don’t like it, but his solution of bending other people to his will and making them like it, I don’t think works well for comedy. I think better material in place of the anti trans stuff would be the way to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Eggman76 said: Garbage @Commissar SFLUFAN you clean out the trash recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 I was going to mention the influx of drive by shitposts recently but I felt like letting nature take it's course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Just now, Keyser_Soze said: I was going to mention the influx of drive by shitposts recently but I felt like letting nature take it's course. Probably alts that other users had coming back or smtn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, stepee said: Probably alts that other users had coming back or smtn. Unfortunately I don't think Commodore D is an alt, just someone who lays low and returns like a bad case of herpes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Keyser_Soze said: Unfortunately I don't think Commodore D is an alt, just someone who lays low and returns like a bad case of herpes. oh yeah that’s just some dude with brain worms for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, stepee said: oh yeah that’s just some dude with brain worms for sure An insult to worms, tbh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Guess I missed whatever was posted. I've never understood the purpose of alts to get around a ban, and posting with people who very clearly don't want you around. How sad and pathetic. As for Chappelle, what a sad and pathetic twerp. Oh no the kids hurt your feelings? I don't know, David, how do you think trans people feel constantly being the butt of your, and others jokes, as well as some people's hatred? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Even if their take wasn't wiped off the thread, when they said "gay comics can't be funny and engaging storytellers etc" all anyone had to do was hit em with a Jerrod Carmichael and Hannah Gadsby refs and that would've been that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 hour ago, heydude93 said: Even if their take wasn't wiped off the thread, when they said "gay comics can't be funny and engaging storytellers etc" all anyone had to do was hit em with a Jerrod Carmichael and Hannah Gadsby ref and that would've been that. It was more like using slurs and basically saying suck it up (or something of that nature) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 On 7/9/2022 at 10:31 AM, Keyser_Soze said: It was more like using slurs and basically saying suck it up (or something of that nature) Their entire post was soul cancer. Bashers are getting more emboldened because some famous people seem to be greenlighting their beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 7/9/2022 at 7:55 AM, heydude93 said: Even if their take wasn't wiped off the thread, when they said "gay comics can't be funny and engaging storytellers etc" all anyone had to do was hit em with a Jerrod Carmichael and Hannah Gadsby ref and that would've been that. And Stephen Fry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: And Stephen Fry! Fry and Carmichael are brilliant. Fry most especially. Gadsby really isn't very good, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 7/9/2022 at 2:48 PM, heydude93 said: Their entire post was soul cancer. Bashers are just getting more emboldened because some famous people seem to be greenlighting their beliefs. Who was it? A regular member? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 13, 2022 Author Share Posted July 13, 2022 No surprise, but Tim Heidecker is a good person who doesn't like Dave Chappelle: Tim Heidecker Has No Time for Dave Chappelle, a ‘Leader in the Anti-Trans Movement’ WWW.THEDAILYBEAST.COM As he heads out on his “No More Bullshit” tour, Tim Heidecker joins The Last Laugh podcast to look back on his career and share unfiltered thoughts on the state of comedy. In the interview he talks about Chappelle (quotes below), but also that his 2020 special (No More Bullshit) was rejected by multiple companies (Netflix, CC, etc) because he goes too hard after other comedians (that they have specials for). Interviewer: You’re kind of unique in that way. Because in the comedy world, everyone’s sort of protective of each other. Another thing you tweeted recently was a comment in reference to John Mulaney bringing up Chappelle, having him as a surprise guest on his tour where he told a lot of his anti-trans jokes. And you were basically the only comedian that I saw speak out against that. Tim: I mean, listen, I have friends who are trans—and that sounds like the worst way to start that conversation, right? But I really do, and I have fans who are trans and I’ve spoken to them about this and I’ve heard directly from them, and there is tremendous anxiety and uncomfortableness and sadness and hurt that it’s treated so flippantly and often dangerously by these people with giant audiences. And I don’t believe that John Mulaney has any kind of issues with the trans community personally. But at the same time, I don’t understand why you need Chappelle to come out onto the stage with an audience that have already paid to see you. He also speaks on his young, male audience and how he tries to be a good role model: I do wonder if you feel some responsibility to counter that stuff for your own younger male fans who grew up watching Tim and Eric and could go down that road themselves. Oh, absolutely, 100 percent. I'm sure a lot of them have. I know that when we started 10, 15 years ago, we attracted a mostly non-conformist, anti-establishment, younger group of men. And it has shifted a lot and there's plenty of women too, but I know that there was something appealing about the nihilism of our work that was definitely anti-authoritarian or anti-establishment. And you can take that to the left or to the right and I think a lot of guys did, in the Trump era, 2015, 2016 and onward, went that way. And couldn't believe that I would not be into that too. A lot of them were like, "I thought you get that nothing matters and this guy is a complete destroyer of worlds and he's going to tear down the establishment, why aren't you into that too?" And I'm like, well, I get that, but I'm also a liberal artist theater dude who grew up believing in certain axioms that are still true to me. And I think this is a con job that this guy is performing and you're getting swept up into something that you don't understand. And just the other day with the shooter on the roof, I see these guys and I'm just like that could easily be a fan, it could easily be a former fan or the same kids that are writing that I'm a "cuck." I've received plenty of death threats and plenty of terrible trolling for being outspoken on certain issues. And so I look at all these 18-year-old, 20-year-old men and know that I have very close connections to them in either positive or negative ways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 13, 2022 Author Share Posted July 13, 2022 Here is Tim's standup if you haven't seen it. He's incredible and walks a great line as a performance artist parodying these types of idiot comedians: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 13, 2022 Author Share Posted July 13, 2022 lol loving the comments on Tim's special I linked above: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 I guess comedy is one of the more subjective things in the arts, but…hmmm. OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Friend of mine was threatened at Carolines recently by an aggressive audience member who was offended by the fact that my friend is very attractive and the audience member's date was laughing a little too hard at her jokes. She handled herself like a professional but was very shaken up by it and was scared to leave the club without being escorted to her car. What's worse is that the club had NO security on hand that night despite there being over 200 people in the audience. I don't know how familiar you guys are with the NY comedy scene, but Caroline's is NOT a small club and should have had security. Thankfully nobody got hurt, but she was shaken to tears despite finsihing her set and even throwing a couple of jokes at the audience member. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Dave should be more like Charles 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Actually cancelled Dave Chappelle’s Show In Minneapolis Tonight Cancelled Amidst Transphobic Remarks Backlash; Legendary Venue Immortalized In Prince’s ‘Purple Rain’ DEADLINE.COM A week after receiving an Emmy nom, the controversial comic is once again being protested 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 On 7/13/2022 at 4:08 PM, sblfilms said: I guess comedy is one of the more subjective things in the arts, but…hmmm. OK I remember fans used to refer to his style (not sure if this is still the case) as anti-comedy. Which I get, it’s like anti-folk or anti-country. But those are genres, the equivalent to anti-comedy would be anti-music, which I would imagine would be just going up on stage and not performing music. And this is the comedy equivalent of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 7:38 AM, Keyser_Soze said: Actually cancelled Dave Chappelle’s Show In Minneapolis Tonight Cancelled Amidst Transphobic Remarks Backlash; Legendary Venue Immortalized In Prince’s ‘Purple Rain’ DEADLINE.COM A week after receiving an Emmy nom, the controversial comic is once again being protested Except they moved the venue and sold out two bigger shows instead of the one he was doing. I dunno, it almost feels like the trans community wants to push supporters away. Im perfectly capable of believing trans people deserve equality, and that trans rights are human rights, but im never going to be ok with them pushing censorship and nonsense like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 49 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: Except they moved the venue and sold out two bigger shows instead of the one he was doing. I dunno, it almost feels like the trans community wants to push supporters away. Im perfectly capable of believing trans people deserve equality, and that trans rights are human rights, but im never going to be ok with them pushing censorship and nonsense like this. Do you actually believe it, or are you merely capable of it? Also...what secret, massive effort do you think trans people are undertaking to push supporters away in this case? As far as I can tell, people simply said they didn't want to go to his show at the theatre, and the theatre, wanting to avoid backlash, decided to cancel. That's...normal? Like, if a more extreme example were to take place like Bill Cosby having a cancelled show, would you say I'm perfectly capable of believing rape victims shouldn't be raped, but...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Do you actually believe it, or are you merely capable of it? Also...what secret, massive effort do you think trans people are undertaking to push supporters away in this case? As far as I can tell, people simply said they didn't want to go to his show at the theatre, and the theatre, wanting to avoid backlash, decided to cancel. That's...normal? Like, if a more extreme example were to take place like Bill Cosby having a cancelled show, would you say I'm perfectly capable of believing rape victims shouldn't be raped, but...? Jokes and rape are not equivalent, man. Thats just a complete nonsense whataboutism. And what backlash, the handful of protesters who showed up? What about the thousands of happy customers who wanted to see the show in the original venue? Im always going to be on the side of freedom of speech. People can protest, but demanding cancelation is absurd, and thats what they were doing, threatening the venue at the last minute, trying to ruin the show for Dave and his fans. Just lucky a good venue was able to pick it up immediately. Jokes are not violence, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 My favourite part of your post is how you didn't say you believe trans people are equal. Blocked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 3 hours ago, BloodyHell said: Except they moved the venue and sold out two bigger shows instead of the one he was doing. I dunno, it almost feels like the trans community wants to push supporters away. Im perfectly capable of believing trans people deserve equality, and that trans rights are human rights, but im never going to be ok with them pushing censorship and nonsense like this. Just like you're "perfectly capable of believing" that you're actually a Native American? 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Words have power. Jokes can be violence. Freedom of speech only applies between one's self and the government, not other private bodies or private corporations. Demanding cancellation of people who spread hate is the best application of our freedom as Americans more than anything. Stochastic terrorism Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com WWW.DICTIONARY.COM Stochastic terrorism definition, the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted: The lone-wolf attack was apparently influenced by the rhetoric of stochastic terrorism. See more. Lone wolf attack - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Just like you're "perfectly capable of believing" that you're actually a Native American? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 This thread is now about two people with poor takes regarding the trans community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, Brick said: This thread is now about two people with poor takes regarding the trans community. I'm capable of believing that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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