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Joe Biden beats Donald Trump, officially making Trump a one-term twice impeached, twice popular-vote losing president

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3 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Preemptively declaring defeat is certainly something the Democrats know how to do.

 

I mean fucking seriously, the Democrats are not winning with these lukewarm military vet candidates, so how the fuck could it possibly be worse to try something different, even if it's not a sure thing?

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1 minute ago, Jason said:

 

I mean fucking seriously, the Democrats are not winning with these lukewarm military vet candidates, so how the fuck could it possibly be worse to try something different, even if it's not a sure thing?

 

What other "lukewarm military vet candidate" have they run?

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5 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Yeah, but the waiting for the next batch of votes to drop is nerve wracking. I know Biden still has a path without AZ, but it's already too close for comfort.

I get it I'm worried about what that 1am vote brings in terms of how much the 80k shrinks. But I'm extremely cautiously optimistic that the lead holds even if it's destined for a recount/court.

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Just now, Joe said:

 

I don't think that proves that it's the only thing they are capable of running. It's 2 candidates.


They aren’t the only ones, but they are two who got tons of money this cycle and basically ran on “Hey guys, Democrats are patriotic too so you can’t call ya country hating socialist!”
 

But there are definitely more than that. 

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Just now, sblfilms said:


They aren’t the only ones, but they are two who got tons of money this cycle and basically ran on “Hey guys, Democrats are patriotic too so you can’t call ya country hating socialist!”
 

But there are definitely more than that. 

 

Mark Kelly also beat McSally by a bigger margin than Sinema did. Duckworth is another recent successful candidate with military experience. I don't know that they are specifically picking military candidates to run, but if they are, it does seem to be working sometimes.

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19 minutes ago, marioandsonic said:

 

Uh...why is that good? 

 

Biden was expected to lose the county, but even if he did he still had a good path to victory, so the fact that he's more competitive in the counties he's expected to lose than expected is a good sign.

 

I won't count on anything until it's done, but that's the gist.

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6 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

I don't think that proves that it's the only thing they are capable of running. It's 2 candidates.

 

The tweet I posted mentioned a third.

 

Here's a list of veterans running for Congress in 2020: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/10/21/here-are-the-181-veterans-running-for-congress-this-year/

 

Sort on the party column and then just look for ones in places that you figure are red districts.

 

Bill Marx: lost

Blair Walshingham: lost

Connor Lamb: lost

Hillary O'Connor Mueri: lost

Max Rose: won one term but looks like he's gonna lose this year

 

It's not a good strategy and it seems like it's coming from the same delusion that makes Democratic politicians think that if they avoid pushing policies that sound even vaguely socialist, that the GOP and Fox won't call them socialists.

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5 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

Mark Kelly also beat McSally by a bigger margin than Sinema did. Duckworth is another recent successful candidate with military experience. I don't know that they are specifically picking military candidates to run, but if they are, it does seem to be working sometimes.


I don't think Kelly really ran on his military background (not sure about Duckworth). It seemed he ran more on issues at hand than "Vote for me because I was in the military."

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1 minute ago, Littleronin said:


I don't think Kelly really ran on his military background (not sure about Duckworth). It seemed he ran more on issues at hand than "Vote for me because I was in the military."

 

And I'm not saying that it's never the right strategy, but it's clearly not a winning strategy everywhere they insist on trying it over and over and over again.

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21 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

That helps. But I jsut want it to be over. The waiting is excruciating.

It's a weird situation right now, because the state where Biden is currently losing by the most out of what's left is the one where everyone looking at the outstanding vote right now is most sure that he'll win. Except Fox and AP with Arizona, I guess? Arizona is a weird case.

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13 minutes ago, sblfilms said:


They aren’t the only ones, but they are two who got tons of money this cycle and basically ran on “Hey guys, Democrats are patriotic too so you can’t call ya country hating socialist!”
 

But there are definitely more than that. 

 

McGrath in particular also likely diverted fundraising from eminently more winnable races, like Maine or the Ossoff race.

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1 minute ago, Jason said:

 

And I'm not saying that it's never the right strategy, but it's clearly not a winning strategy everywhere they insist on trying it over and over and over again.

 

It could also be that military veterans just like to run for office. 

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1 minute ago, Jason said:

 

McGrath in particular also likely diverted fundraising from eminently more winnable races, like Maine or the Ossoff race.

Yeah, I think pushing Hegar was in hopes of O’Rourke situation where she pulled a lot of voters in even if they couldn’t flip TX, but could win down ballot.

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

McGrath was so fucking inept it's hard not to assume she was recruited.

 

Yeah, I dunno. I did look all these candidates up and the first thing they mention was their military experience, but not Mark Kelly like @Littleronin said. I'm not entirely convinced this is some Dem strat, but I am no longer convinced it's not, either.

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5 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

I can't watch the news but just got a message from a friend that GA is at 15k gap with 90k remaining to count. Can anyone confirm?

People seem to have slightly different interpretations of his chances with what's left, but it seems like consensus is that Perdue getting to <50% to trigger a runoff is looking good, but Biden getting to a win is a longer shot but still possible

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