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Florida man who used “stand your ground” defense found guilty of manslaughter, faces 30 years in prison

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I saw this was posted on the "Existing While Black" thread, but it made rumbles here in Florida when it happened and thought it deserved its own thread.

 

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A man in Florida was found guilty of manslaughter Friday for killing an unarmed man during a dispute over a parking spot, in a case that sought to make use of that state’s “stand your ground” law.

 

Michael Drejka, then 47, fatally shot Markeis McGlockton, 28, last summer during an altercation over a handicap parking place in Clearwater, Florida. During the trial, attorneys for Drejka argued that his actions were permitted under the state’s “stand your ground” law, which allows for the use of lethal force in situations where a person can be reasonably found to fear for their life.

 

A jury deliberated for six hours on Friday before finding Drejka guilty of manslaughter. He faces up to 30 years in prison.

 

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As Vox’s German Lopez reported last summer, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri initially declined to arrest Drejka, presuming that he was innocent under the “stand your ground” law:

 

Florida’s “stand your ground” statute, in short, gives a person the right to use deadly force “if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony,” all without a “duty to retreat.”

 

The sheriff explained that while McGlockton’s back-off after the shove gave him “pause,” ultimately Drejka said he was worried that he would be struck again. At a press conference, Sheriff Gualtieri emphasized that this wasn’t a small push: “This wasn’t a shove, this wasn’t just a tap. He slammed him to the ground.”

 

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20 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said:

I doubt it gets overturned... he changed his statement a couple of times and he also had a history of threatening in people over that spot. Also as quiet as it's kept, Law enforcement HATES these stand your ground laws because they actually INCREASE the probability of violence and don't decrease them.

 

I can't speak on behalf of most law enforcement, but from the few school officers I've spoken to, they hate the idea of more guns in schools, one because it makes access easier, and two because teachers running around with a gun in an emergency is unsafe.

 

If all this is widespread, I wish they could be louder about it.

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11 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 

I can't speak on behalf of most law enforcement, but from the few school officers I've spoken to, they hate the idea of more guns in schools, one because it makes access easier, and two because teachers running around with a gun in an emergency is unsafe.

 

If all this is widespread, I wish they could be louder about it.

I’m really not surprised the police voice no opinion in issues that affect public safety, especially when the NRA donates to law enforcement. 

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1 hour ago, SaysWho? said:

 

I can't speak on behalf of most law enforcement, but from the few school officers I've spoken to, they hate the idea of more guns in schools, one because it makes access easier, and two because teachers running around with a gun in an emergency is unsafe.

 

If all this is widespread, I wish they could be louder about it.

 

I can’t see how law enforcement would ever want to respond to a crisis situation with more unknown people armed.

 

”Excuse me, are you a good guy with a gun?”

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35 minutes ago, Amazatron said:

 

I can’t see how law enforcement would ever want to respond to a crisis situation with more unknown people armed.

 

”Excuse me, are you a good guy with a gun?”

 

Wasn't it in Mississippi that a good guy with a gun was helping people in a mall when there was a shooting and then the cops killed him?

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My mother's husband is an ex-cop from Florida, retired recently, and claims these crazy Stand Your Ground cases happen much more frequently than reported on the news. According to him, someone shot and killed a guy during a parking lot fight at a bar near their house and got away with it claiming Stand Your Ground and it was mentioned in the local news only very briefly for example. 

 

Living in Florida these days would make me paranoid as fuck. 

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4 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

My mother's husband is an ex-cop from Florida, retired recently, and claims these crazy Stand Your Ground cases happen much more frequently than reported on the news. According to him, someone shot and killed a guy during a parking lot fight at a bar near their house and got away with it claiming Stand Your Ground and it was mentioned in the local news only very briefly for example. 

 

Living in Florida these days would make me paranoid as fuck. 

You mean "make me feel free as fuck."

 

Because guns are freedom. 

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34 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

My mother's husband is an ex-cop from Florida, retired recently, and claims these crazy Stand Your Ground cases happen much more frequently than reported on the news. According to him, someone shot and killed a guy during a parking lot fight at a bar near their house and got away with it claiming Stand Your Ground and it was mentioned in the local news only very briefly for example. 

 

Living in Florida these days would make me paranoid as fuck. 

My buddy lives in Jacksonville and he would back that up 100 percent.  He said EVERYONE Carrie's guns out there and are itching to use them. A simple traffic dispute can easily turn into a scene from John Wick out there.

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10 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

My buddy lives in Jacksonville and he would back that up 100 percent.  He said EVERYONE Carrie's guns out there and are itching to use them. A simple traffic dispute can easily turn into a scene from John Wick out there.

This was in Orlando, near the airport. I lived down there for years and the amount of violence and general insanity was off the charts. I feel like I could write a book about all the shit that happened to my friends or myself, it's like the place is just a magnet for bad decisions and you can't help but get sucked in. Just...fucking Florida I guess, there's something to that meme 100%. 

 

I always remember there was an incident where some redneck shot another dude in his car while doing 70mph or something on I-4 near downtown. The car went over the side where I-4 is elevated and landed in the middle of some busy downtown street. It's almost comical how out of control that place is. Even I eventually bought a gun and I'm so not into that shit. 

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1 hour ago, Bloodporne said:

This was in Orlando, near the airport. I lived down there for years and the amount of violence and general insanity was off the charts. I feel like I could write a book about all the shit that happened to my friends or myself, it's like the place is just a magnet for bad decisions and you can't help but get sucked in. Just...fucking Florida I guess, there's something to that meme 100%. 

 

I always remember there was an incident where some redneck shot another dude in his car while doing 70mph or something on I-4 near downtown. The car went over the side where I-4 is elevated and landed in the middle of some busy downtown street. It's almost comical how out of control that place is. Even I eventually bought a gun and I'm so not into that shit. 

 

You really can't get more John Wick than that.

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On 8/26/2019 at 10:33 AM, skillzdadirecta said:

I doubt it gets overturned... he changed his statement a couple of times and he also had a history of threatening in people over that spot. Also as quiet as it's kept, Law enforcement HATES these stand your ground laws because they actually INCREASE the probability of violence and don't decrease them.

Ironic because police effectively have that same right to SYG in all jurisdictions, yet they don’t see how that increases the probability of police officers shooting people.

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