CitizenVectron Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Because why not just say it openly? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Jesus Christ House Dems, how much more do you need to hear??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 nothing we can do about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Jesus Christ House Dems, how much more do you need to hear??? He's self-impeaching right in front of our eyes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Also there's no way he hasn't already taken foreign help for 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 This is fucking unreal. And fuck the Dems for letting this go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Given this morning's promise to protect Rocket Man from the CIA, I think we know one of the foreign countries feeding the Trump campaign information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 This is all very shocking to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 He said the quiet part loud again. And nothing will come of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 he should see how much he can get away with before dems try to impeach him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Random reporter: I bet you are incapable of self impeachment! Trump: Hold my Whopper Congress: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, chakoo said: Random reporter: I bet you are incapable of self impeachment! Trump: Hold my Whopper Congress: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Excuse me sir how DARE you accuse GEOTUS of Treason? Trump is a Big Mac man, he would never eat at Burger King because in AMERICA we don't recognize Royal Titles!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, RedSoxFan9 said: nothing we can do about this Thoughts and prayers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: he should see how much he can get away with before dems try to impeach him That's literally what he's doing. He thinks he can win a fight over impeachment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 the most shocking thing said today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: This is fucking unreal. And fuck the Dems for letting this go. Fuck the Dems? What about the Republicans?! The Dems could vote to impeach him tomorrow and guess what would happen? Nothing. The Republicans would never cross the aisle and do what's right for the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: Fuck the Dems? What about the Republicans?! The Dems could vote to impeach him tomorrow and guess what would happen? Nothing. The Republicans would never cross the aisle and do what's right for the country. Initiating the impeachment process greatly strengthens their position. And there wasn't majority support for impeaching Nixon until the process started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Initiating the impeachment process greatly strengthens their position. And there wasn't majority support for impeaching Nixon until the process started. So wait... you guys really think that if the Dems initiate impeachment proceedings in the House, THIS Republican Senate would go against Trump and join the Dems? Really?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: So wait... you guys really think that if the Dems initiate impeachment proceedings, THIS Republican Congress would go against Trump and join the Dems? Really?! I don't really think this Senate will vote to convict, but I do think that not initiating impeachment is a great way to disillusion Democrats and independents into staying home in 2020, while impeaching WOULD fire up turnout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jason said: I don't really think this Senate will vote to convict, but I do think that not initiating impeachment is a great way to disillusion Democrats and independents into staying home in 2020, while impeaching WOULD fire up turnout. Yeah... on HIS side too. I'm all for impeaching the fucker but not if all it's gonna do is get him reelected. The Republicans suffered DEARLY for impeaching Clinton and the Dems are weary of that. And by the way, NOT ONE REPUBLICAN has spoken out against what Trump has said tonight. Not ONE. Oh and if Dems and Independents stay home and this fucker gets reelected for ANY reason, then it's on US. The electorate. Either that or folks are no where near as outraged by this President as they may pretend to be. All the reason to vote him out of office are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Republicans impeached Clinton for bullshit reasons. Trump could be impeached using nothing other than direct quotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, chakoo said: Random reporter: I bet you are incapable of self impeachment! Trump: Hold my FISH DELIGHT Congress: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Fuck the Dems? What about the Republicans?! The Dems could vote to impeach him tomorrow and guess what would happen? Nothing. The Republicans would never cross the aisle and do what's right for the country. Yes, fuck the Dems. We already know the shitty Republicans aren't going to do a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Yeah... on HIS side too. I'm all for impeaching the fucker but not if all it's gonna do is get him reelected. The Republicans suffered DEARLY for impeaching Clinton and the Dems are weary of that. And by the way, NOT ONE REPUBLICAN has spoken out against what Trump has said tonight. Not ONE. Oh and if Dems and Independents stay home and this fucker gets reelected for ANY reason, then it's on US. The electorate. Either that or folks are no where near as outraged by this President as they may pretend to be. All the reason to vote him out of office are there. Trump's base is showing up no matter what. Firing up anti-Trump voters is far more important than worrying about firing up Trump's voters. "Don't campaign in Wisconsin so that Trump doesn't campaign there" didn't work for Hillary in 2016 and I didn't front see why it'd work for the Democrats this time either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skillzdadirecta Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Just now, Jason said: Trump's base is showing up no matter what. Firing up anti-Trump voters is far more important than worrying about firing up Trump's voters. "Don't campaign in Wisconsin so that Trump doesn't campaign there" didn't work for Hillary in 2016 and I didn't front see why it'd work for the Democrats this time either. That's not what Im saying and if anti Trump supporters aren't fired up now, then nothing is going to fire them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: That's not what Im saying and if anti Trump supporters aren't fired up now, then nothing is going to fire them up. You've got a lot of independents who aren't paying enough attention to understand why they should be fired up, but would get it with the news cycle being dominated by impeachment coverage forcing them to pay attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Jason said: You've got a lot of independents who aren't paying enough attention to understand why they should be fired up, but would get it with the news cycle being dominated by impeachment coverage forcing them to pay attention. So they haven't been paying attention to the last two years? Even if they're "Anti-Trump"? The news cycle is dominated by Trump almost every night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: So they haven't been paying attention to the last two years? Even if they're "Anti-Trump"? The news cycle is dominated by Trump almost every night. You're assuming that they pay attention every day like we do, and understand this in terms of one big interconnected story, and not individual news snippets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Jason said: You're assuming that they pay attention every day like we do, and understand this in terms of one big interconnected story, and not individual news snippets. And YOU'RE assuming that the electorate still doesn't know that Trump is a shitty human being. I think for the most part they do and they just don't give a shit because that's where we are as a country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 58 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: The Republicans suffered DEARLY for impeaching Clinton and the Dems are weary of that. I don’t think this is accurate. It sounds plausible, but I don’t believe it is actually backed up in the way the voting turned out in 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I don’t think this is accurate. It sounds plausible, but I don’t believe it is actually backed up in the way the voting turned out in 2000. It sure didn't hurt with the old judges in robes contingent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I don’t think this is accurate. It sounds plausible, but I don’t believe it is actually backed up in the way the voting turned out in 2000. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/06/did-clintons-impeachment-actually-hurt-republicans/591175/ Republicans didn't pay much of a price at all. It's "conventional wisdom" that it hurt the GOP, but nothing really supports that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/06/did-clintons-impeachment-actually-hurt-republicans/591175/ Republicans didn't pay much of a price at all. It's "conventional wisdom" that it hurt the GOP, but nothing really supports that. They lost the Senate, which as we're seeing now is probably more important than the fact that they kept the House. And Gorge would have won if SCOTUS hadn't stolen the presidency for Bush--you know they knew they were stealing it when they twisted themselves in knots about "this ruling isn't precedent for future identical circumstances". That said I agree with the overall point that the failed impeachment certainly didn't DEVASTATE them and that they were still largely viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 The 1998 midterm elections which were the closest in proximity to the entire impeachment situation showed no discernible impact from it as the GOP retained control of both houses of Congress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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