RedSoxFan9 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I don’t know how anyone took her seriously sadly, VC interns have been scrubbing videos with her real voice off YouTube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Who fucking cares 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Kal-El814 said: Who fucking cares 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 The fake voice is...weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Eh...I wouldn't really hold this against her. I know a number of women with very high voices who feel that people think they sound too childish and aren't taken seriously. I don't see this any differently than someone with, say, a southern accent taking voice lessons to speak with a more midwest accent for similar reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I have literally never heard her speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: Eh...I wouldn't really hold this against her. I know a number of women with very high voices who feel that people think they sound too childish and aren't taken seriously. I don't see this any differently than someone with, say, a southern accent taking voice lessons to speak with a more midwest accent for similar reasons. Yeah, I don’t see it as an inherent negative, I just think the choice she made was poor in that her voice sounds wholly unnatural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 The whole Theranos thing is insane to me, but what bothers me most is that her voice is so obviously fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Yeah, I don’t see it as an inherent negative, I just think the choice she made was poor in that her voice sounds wholly unnatural. That's the sign of someone that didn't go through a voice coach and just decided to wing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 also why was Henry Kissinger in the board of a health tech company? seems like an odd fit for an ancient war criminal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: Eh...I wouldn't really hold this against her. I know a number of women with very high voices who feel that people think they sound too childish and aren't taken seriously. I don't see this any differently than someone with, say, a southern accent taking voice lessons to speak with a more midwest accent for similar reasons. This right here. I made a conscious effort to eliminate my southern accent so I would be taken more seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: This right here. I made a conscious effort to eliminate my southern accent so I would be taken more seriously And you were right to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 But accents are entirely different than the tone of your voice. lol It's almost psychopathic to do what Holmes does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I DVR that docu last night so I may watch later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 31 minutes ago, CayceG said: But accents are entirely different than the tone of your voice. lol It's almost psychopathic to do what Holmes does. No, it's not. It's a WAY more common concern women have than you probably think. My wife works as a therapist and has a naturally low voice that she raises up an octave to come across as more caring to her clients. Because you know, caring and kind is high pitched for some reason. Her natural voice would be right at home in, like, a board room if she were trying to sound assertive. In her field, though, it had the complete opposite. Didn't Maria Bamford have a stand-up special years ago that Comedy Central ran on repeat ad nauseum about this very subject? It's no different than every person in my family that has a white people voice they use on the phone so they aren't ignored by customer support. Isn't that the entire premise of Sorry to Bother You? Or this clip? You can't really be arguing that women with "child-like" voices don't have the same concerns anyone else in a similar situation may have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 39 minutes ago, CayceG said: But accents are entirely different than the tone of your voice. lol It's almost psychopathic to do what Holmes does. I really don’t think it is meaningfully different. People do take into account vocal traits as a way of determining things like intelligence, seriousness, maturity, and such. Altering a vocal trait to mask a perceived defeciency is a fairly normal thing for humans to do. Look at the reaction of lots of people to Christine Ford’s voice during her senate testimony. The pitch of her voice was referred to by a bunch of people as “child like” and such, because she had a fairly high pitched voice. The oddity here is the particular voical traits she opted to mimic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 48 minutes ago, CayceG said: It's almost psychopathic to do what Holmes does. It's truly nothing of the sort. A decent number of my female college professors had to dramatically change the pitch and tone of their voice for them to be listened to. I know a non-trivial number of women who do this professionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I guess I just haven't run across it ever before, knowingly. I'll relent, then, and say that HOLMES is an insane person so utterly committed to the lie that this is but one of the weirder aspects of it to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, CayceG said: I guess I just haven't run across it ever before, knowingly. I'll relent, then, and say that HOLMES is an insane person so utterly committed to the lie that this is but one of the weirder aspects of it to me. Everything about Thernaos is crazy town banana pants, but a professional woman adopting an affection in her professional speech is an exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 The craziest thing IMO, and I think this about pretty much every scammer that gets caught, is why DIDN'T SHE HAVE AN EXIT PLAN? Like you're the CEO of (what was at the time) at multi-billion dollar company. Surely it would've been possible for her to embezzle a few million dollars and go on a "business trip" to like Barbados or something and never ever return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, SilentWorld said: The craziest thing IMO, and I think this about pretty much every scammer that gets caught, is why DIDN'T SHE HAVE AN EXIT PLAN? Like your the CEO of (what was at the time) at multi-billion dollar company. Surely it would've been possible for her to embezzle a few million dollars and go on a "business trip" to like Barbados or something and never ever return. Ego, I’d wager. People like this think they are smarter than everybody else and will never get caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 Changing your voice slightly in different situations is normal. That’s not what she did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 My great aunt used to actually speak in a falsetto voice because she considered her voice to be too deep and not lady-like enough. Even as a kid I thought it was sad that she thought she had to change something like that about herself in order to be accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 OK? Very impressive as well. Not the voice, but how long she kept it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 50 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Changing your voice slightly in different situations is normal. That’s not what she did. It most certainly is. She is just really bad at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Allow me to introduce you all to Gilbert Gottfried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 hours ago, CayceG said: But accents are entirely different than the tone of your voice. lol It's almost psychopathic to do what Holmes does. We once had this hostess that had an absolutely excruciatingly high voice. Like so bad that you thought she was fucking with you. The GM at the time told me to tell her that she had to speak with a deeper voice to customers. I just ignored him, but yeah I'm sure it's a real thing that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckle85 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 It's baffling and hilarious. In the footage of her I saw she speaks in a very forced unnaturally deep voice. Why!? You put so much effort into the con and you're doing all these next level jedi mind tricks while at the same time speaking in a cartoon voice when you could just be talking normally 2 hours ago, sblfilms said: Ego, I’d wager. People like this think they are smarter than everybody else and will never get caught. That seems most likely to me as well. It was possibly a psychology/social game she was playing to avoid boredom. Raising the stakes to see if anyone noticed, ego blinding her and making her think nobody would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Ok so I finally watched the videos. Tempest in a teapot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Ok so I finally watched the videos. Tempest in a teapot It is soooo weird. It’s like if you decided to combat your southern accent by going with a rural Minnesota accent. Too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, sblfilms said: It is soooo weird. It’s like if you decided to combat your southern accent by going with a rural Minnesota accent. Too much. Yoo betcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I've done a pretty good job of attaining an "Atlantic neutral" accent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, CayceG said: Yoo betcha. Donchaknow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I've done a pretty good job of attaining an "Atlantic neutral" accent. You should have gone with the Baltimore accent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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