CitizenVectron Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Boeing whistleblower found dead in US WWW.BBC.CO.UK Prior to his death, whistleblower John Barnett was testifying against Boeing over concerns about standards. Quote A former Boeing employee known for raising concerns about the firm's production standards has been found dead in the US. John Barnett had worked for Boeing for 32 years, until his retirement in 2017. In the days before his death, he had been giving evidence in a whistleblower lawsuit against the company. Quote It said the 62-year-old had died from a "self-inflicted" wound on 9 March and police were investigating. Mr Barnett had worked for the US plane giant for 32 years, until his retirement in 2017 on health grounds. Quote He later told the BBC that workers had failed to follow procedures intended to track components through the factory, allowing defective components to go missing. He said in some cases, sub-standard parts had even been removed from scrap bins and fitted to planes that were being built to prevent delays on the production line. He also claimed that tests on emergency oxygen systems due to be fitted to the 787 showed a failure rate of 25%, meaning that one in four could fail to deploy in a real-life emergency. Mr Barnett said he had alerted managers to his concerns, but no action had been taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Boeing didn't pull the trigger, but they certainly created the conditions that cost this man his life. Along with the lives of hundreds of others lost due to corporate ineptitude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Also I don't think anyone else posted this somewhere, so... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 43 minutes ago, CayceG said: Boeing didn't pull the trigger, but they certainly created the conditions that cost this man his life. Along with the lives of hundreds of others lost due to corporate ineptitude. You sure about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 50 Injured After Boeing 787 'Technical Event' Caused Sudden Drop WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM A Latam Airlines spokesperson told Business Insider a "technical event" during the Boeing 787 flight had "caused a strong movement." Another day and another Boeing incident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, Brick said: You sure about that? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 23 minutes ago, CayceG said: Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 24 minutes ago, CayceG said: Yes Is there a man from Boeing standing behind you right now? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, marioandsonic said: Also I don't think anyone else posted this somewhere, so... the netflix documentary is much better. He looks to cite them in his segment. The Netflix documentary makes Boeing look even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 hours ago, marioandsonic said: Also I don't think anyone else posted this somewhere, so... It was posted in the Performing Arts forum in the John Oliver thread, but yes, very eye-opening. And he (and his team) do a tremendous job elucidating everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 3/11/2024 at 3:09 PM, CayceG said: Boeing didn't pull the trigger, but they certainly created the conditions that cost this man his life. Along with the lives of hundreds of others lost due to corporate ineptitude. 10 hours ago, Reputator said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 One thing this teaches me is that in the future to make sure not to testify against Boeing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 The only whistleblowing I want to do is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 12 hours ago, Reputator said: This is journalistic malpractice. This person the news talked to is drawing conclusions that may not be true and the news is just running with it. People who commit suicide have plans and love their families. And they still do it because of whatever reason despite this. This isn't proof that he was murdered and if I were Boeing I'd sue the piss out of this news station and that lady. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, CayceG said: This is journalistic malpractice. This person the news talked to is drawing conclusions that may not be true and the news is just running with it. People who commit suicide have plans and love their families. And they still do it because of whatever reason despite this. This isn't proof that he was murdered and if I were Boeing I'd sue the piss out of this news station and that lady. Agreed, well-put. Even if the guy was recorded somewhere saying "if I wind up dead, it wasn't suicide", that isn't proof of anything. People change their minds, make drastic decisions in low moments, etc. It may not look good for Boeing to sue them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I wish I knew what it was about conspiracies that so many people find compelling. I know people who think that Qanon is obvious bullshit but do believe that Epstein ran a pedophile blackmail operation despite a lack of evidence for both. I feel like I’m missing something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 30 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: I wish I knew what it was about conspiracies that so many people find compelling. In their own twisted way, conspiracies provide a "comforting" sense of "order" in a world of such seeming "randomness" or "disorder". The arbitrariness of existence can be terrifying to many and therefore, the belief that some secret cabal is pulling the strings behind the scenes -- no matter how nefarious their purposes may be -- at least provides a sense of certainty, despite how illogical or irrational it may be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 25 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: I wish I knew what it was about conspiracies that so many people find compelling. I know people who think that Qanon is obvious bullshit but do believe that Epstein ran a pedophile blackmail operation despite a lack of evidence for both. I feel like I’m missing something. You’re not missing anything except for the sweet, sweet taste of lead based paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 10 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: I wish I knew what it was about conspiracies that so many people find compelling. I know people who think that Qanon is obvious bullshit but do believe that Epstein ran a pedophile blackmail operation despite a lack of evidence for both. I feel like I’m missing something. In some cases, it just confirms peoples' prior beliefs. Boeing will do anything to stop this whistleblower -> Whistleblower dies -> Therefore Boeing killed him Because it "sounds right" Sometimes people just don't dig any further than that to determine what's true, what's likely, and what's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I think it may also be a factor for some people that it's a simpler explanation to just say "group X is in charge and pulling the strings" than to take the effort to truly fully understand the issue, its causes and effects, the multitude of forces and people interacting, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I think there’s a treasure map on the back of the Declaration of Independence personally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 23 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: In their own twisted way, conspiracies provide a "comforting" sense of "order" in a world of such seeming "randomness" or "disorder". The arbitrariness of existence can be terrifying to many and therefore, the belief that some secret cabal is pulling the strings behind the scenes -- no matter how nefarious their purposes may be -- at least provides a sense of certainty, despite how illogical or irrational it may be. You forgot the laziness and pride angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I’m sure all of Putin’s opponents that died from suicide have nothing to do with him either. Just silly conspiracy theories really. An unwavering trust in what the media tells you is not gonna help you if/when our country goes full-fascist. Better start questioning everything now. I’m not saying Boeing was definitely involved, but the circumstances are to fishy for me to say there is now way they weren’t involved. I know as little about what really happened as anyone here really, I just don’t pretend to know for certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 The last days of the Boeing whistleblower FINANCE.YAHOO.COM John Barnett devoted 25 years of his career working to make Boeing airplanes safer. But he'd spend the last few years of his life fighting to fix the distressing shortcomings he witnessed there. Quote The Barnett family, which includes his older brother Rodney, issued a statement reading that “He was looking forward to having his day in court and hoping it would force Boeing to change its culture. He was suffering from PTSD and anxiety attacks as a result of being subjected to a hostile work environment at Boeing, which we believe led to his death.” As I said earlier. Boeing didn't pull the trigger, but they created the conditions that ended this man's life. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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