Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I have no idea if this actually counts as an "Official Developer Apology", but I'm just going to roll with it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 That's fine. I'm not even looking forward to that I just want TLOU3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Just cancel it and put those resources on TLOU3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 26, 2023 Author Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, stepee said: Just cancel it and put those resources on TLOU3 Not with the amount of money that the first game's multiplayer made! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Factions was fun! I would like to see it return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, TheLeon said: Factions was fun! I would like to see it return. Was this the mode where you could import names from your FB account and kill people with those names? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Was this the mode where you could import names from your FB account and kill people with those names? The only Facebook connection I remember these games is uploading the pics you took in the photobooth in Left Behind (much to the confusion of my aunt). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheLeon said: The only Facebook connection I remember these games is uploading the pics you took in the photobooth in Left Behind (much to the confusion of my aunt). I wonder what game I'm thinking of. Maybe something with a camp? Anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Bloomberg - Are you a robot? WWW.BLOOMBERG.COM sounds like things are pretty dire for this. Schreier mentioned on twitter most of the team has been removed from the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 No wonder Naughty Dog released this statement. Schreier reached out for comment and ND decided to get ahead of the article. I won’t be surprised if this game just dies away and the assets will be used in TLOU3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 49 minutes ago, Brian said: No wonder Naughty Dog released this statement. Schreier reached out for comment and ND decided to get ahead of the article. I won’t be surprised if this game just dies away and the assets will be used in TLOU3 makes me wonder how ambitious they were with this project. i don’t think we’ve even really seen much from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 27, 2023 Author Share Posted May 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, johnny said: makes me wonder how ambitious they were with this project. i don’t think we’ve even really seen much from it? We've seen absolutely nothing of it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 This explains why it wasn't shown at the showcase despite supposedly coming out soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 8 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: Was this the mode where you could import names from your FB account and kill people with those names? Sort of. You could connect to your Facebook account, and then people in your camp would be named after your friends, and depending on how well you're managing your camp of survivors they could die, so you could see a message like, "Stacey has fallen sick", and if you lose a bunch of matches or don't get enough resources, it would go, "Stacy has died". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Yeah, the only thing we saw for this was a splash screen at one of the Keighley shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShreddieMercury Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 "Bungie raised questions about the The Last of Us multiplayer project’s ability to keep players engaged for a long period of time, which led to the reassessment." Video games are in full nightmare mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Last Of Us Studio Naughty Dog Is Cutting Developers KOTAKU.COM The PlayStation first-party studio behind Uncharted and The Last of Us Part II is laying off dozens of contractors Quote Layoffs were communicated internally at the Santa Monica, California-based studio last week, according to two sources familiar with the situation. Departments ranging from art to production were impacted, but the majority of those laid off worked in quality assurance testing. The sources said at least 25 developers were part of the downsizing. Full-time staff do not appear to have been part of the cuts. Naughty Dog’s headcount was over 400 as of July. Sources tell Kotaku that no severance is being offered for those currently laid off, and that impacted developers as well as remaining employees are being pressured to keep the news quiet. Their contracts won’t be officially terminated until the end of October and they’ll be expected to work through the rest of the month. Sony did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Someone should perhaps explain to Kotaku that contractors typically don't receive "severance" because they're...contractors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Just give me TLOU3 you fucking cowards!. -Kal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Someone should perhaps explain to Kotaku that contractors typically don't receive "severance" because they're...contractors. Contractor is the nice way of saying a temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 5/26/2023 at 3:03 PM, stepee said: Just cancel it and put those resources on TLOU3 Done 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Contractor is the nice way of saying a temp. That's definitely not an inaccurate way of characterizing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 A shame as I rather liked the multiplayer from the first game, and to see it expanded could've turned out really special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 58 minutes ago, Brick said: A shame as I rather liked the multiplayer from the first game, and to see it expanded could've turned out really special. It could have until they decided to turn it into a gaas grab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Contractors are frequently used in business to manage non-permanent workload, and are not employees. Calling the ending of contracts "lay-offs" is not accurate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 The games as service bubble is kind of popping anyways. I don’t think they know what to do with it or how to monetize it in a way that won’t piss off their fans, but also make it worth getting and playing. It may be a case of it being too big to include with a full priced game, not big enough for its own game, and making a MP game today designed around a season pass can backfire. maybe I’m just being too cynical about monetization and it really is just an issue coming up with enough modes and ideas for a full MP game that’s worth at least $40-50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Last Of Us Studio Naughty Dog Is Cutting Developers KOTAKU.COM The PlayStation first-party studio behind Uncharted and The Last of Us Part II is laying off dozens of contractors Someone should perhaps explain to Kotaku that contractors typically don't receive "severance" because they're...contractors. It’s Kotaku, so I assume the writer is fully aware of that but still writes it that way intentionally. I really hope this project had a mostly seperate team for quite a long time now and that ND’s first new game for ps5 isn’t at the tail end of the systems life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 38 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: The games as service bubble is kind of popping anyways. I don’t think they know what to do with it or how to monetize it in a way that won’t piss off their fans, but also make it worth getting and playing. It may be a case of it being too big to include with a full priced game, not big enough for its own game, and making a MP game today designed around a season pass can backfire. maybe I’m just being too cynical about monetization and it really is just an issue coming up with enough modes and ideas for a full MP game that’s worth at least $40-50. I think big companies like ABK killed it with things like WZ. They offered too much for nothing and now it's killing the business as it's expected now by consumers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 9 hours ago, SuperSpreader said: I think big companies like ABK killed it with things like WZ. They offered too much for nothing and now it's killing the business as it's expected now by consumers. WZ killed it with crappy updates and making a sequel to WZ where you can't bring your $20 Snoop Dogg skin over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: WZ killed it with crappy updates and making a sequel to WZ where you can't bring your $20 Snoop Dogg skin over. WZ killed itself after it killed the market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: The games as service bubble is kind of popping anyways. I don’t think they know what to do with it or how to monetize it in a way that won’t piss off their fans, but also make it worth getting and playing. It may be a case of it being too big to include with a full priced game, not big enough for its own game, and making a MP game today designed around a season pass can backfire. maybe I’m just being too cynical about monetization and it really is just an issue coming up with enough modes and ideas for a full MP game that’s worth at least $40-50. Biggest issue with trying to monetize something like what this game seemed to be like, is its too "realistic" a setting to create enough cosmetics to sell. The Division had similar issues. What do you sell for skins, different color backpacks, boots, gloves, helmets? If its a dark gritty world of TLoU you can't really do crazy colorful whacky skins, because it'd kill the tone of the game. Call of Duty was keeping things somewhat serious at the beginning, and now they just put "Groot", Nicki Minaj, The Boys Characters, Animals, ect in the game. I just can't think of what they sell as cosmetics that would really be interesting enough long term without tainting the franchise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, JPDunks4 said: I just can't think of what they sell as cosmetics that would really be interesting enough long term without tainting the franchise. Helghast armor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Sci-fi and fantasy seem to be the best settings for games like that and doing cosmetic skins. That's probably in part why Destiny 2 and Warframe do so well. CoD doing crazy over the top skins annoys me so much. It just kills the immersion of what is supposed to be a military themed game. I could maybe tolerate it more if the Warzone skins were strictly for Warzone (since it's basically more realistic Fortnite at this point), and not for Modern Warfare II, but MWII skins could still carry over to Warzone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 The problem with COD doing those kind of cosmetics is it starts to seem like desperation. One last awful idea before they start monetizing more of the game and increasing pricing on existing monetization to make up for less people buying stuff. But there may come a day when even the 10m sales of a yearly COD is no longer enough to justify its existence, because post release monetization has all but evaporated. They’d instead try to invent the next live service game they can make a billion dollars a year on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 53 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: make up for less people buying stuff. But there may come a day when even the 10m sales of a yearly COD is no longer enough to justify its existence, because post release monetization has all but evaporated. That could come sooner rather than later with Games Pass proliferation. I think we'll eventually see it taken away from annual releases to something more homogenized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Include what you got in the Last of Us 2 Remastered edition for $70. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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