best3444 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Phaseknox said: Basically. You’re right, I consider the PS4 remaster more of an improved port of the PS3 game. The remake is more of what I consider a remaster, and there’s nothing inherently wrong with that. I was just expecting a sort of reimagining or retelling of the original since it was being remade from the ground up for the PS5. It appears to be more of a remake like Demon’s Souls, and less of a remake like Final Fantasy VII. Ok. If what you're saying is true, that would be pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I really wish the game industry could come to a decision about what to call remasters, remakes, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 48 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: I really wish the game industry could come to a decision about what to call remasters, remakes, etc. Remaster = better assets and/or rendered at higher resolution and/or framerate Remake = remade in new engine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Id like to see OG vs Pt1. I still don't get how anyone can complain about those graphics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 38 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Remaster = better assets and/or rendered at higher resolution and/or framerate Remake = remade in new engine this. nice and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Looks good My only niggle is Ellie in a couple of shots looks older due to graphic update. But considering the hellscape the characters live in this likely a more realistic approach anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 46 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: I still don't get how anyone can complain about those graphics. I think it's because it doesn't seem much better than part 2, which is a PS4 game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: I think it's because it doesn't seem much better than part 2, which is a PS4 game. Sure, but its also the best looking ps4 game, by a long shot. Game looks fantastic, imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: Sure, but its also the best looking ps4 game, by a long shot. Cool, but this is a PS5-only game "built from the ground up for PS5". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Cool, but this is a PS5-only game "built from the ground up for PS5". And it looks incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, BloodyHell said: And it looks incredible. But not for a game that's "built from the ground up for PS5", it looks similar to part 2. That's the complaint. A PS5 exclusive game built to maximize the use of the hardware shouldn't look comparable to a PS4 game. Anyone saying it looks "bad" is being hyperbolic or is dumb, however, the argument is that the graphics are disappointing to some because, again, it was "built from the ground up for PS5". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Yeah it'll be interesting to see how Part III will look and compare to Part I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I agree with @Spork3245 The DF video says rather directly that the PS5 remaster of Part 1 looks pretty much identical to Part 2. Part 2 is a very good looking game, but it's still a PS4 game that got a very minimal PS5 patch, and Naughty Dog are kings of graphics. I doubt I'll have any real issues with the graphics, but we're 2 years into the PS5 and this is Naughty Dog's first game on the platform, so I was hoping for something that would blow me away. If Part 3 came out and looked indistinguishable from Part 2, despite a console generation launching between them, I'd be disappointed. This one gets a pass because it's just a remake, but still. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Yeah it really does just look like Part II, although I'm sure there will probably be nice little extras that Part II couldn't do like ray tracing and real time reflections, in addition to the higher frame rate, but at first glance here you can't tell there's a generational gap, whereas you could easily tell the generational gap between the first game and the PS4 Remaster, and then even further with Part II being built from the ground up for PS4. I remember a guy telling me that the Remaster is how good the second game will look when it comes out, and I told him no it would look even better because it will be made for the PS4 to begin with. I'm sure Naughty Dog's first proper game for PS5 will blow everything else out of the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I don’t think we are even going to get ray tracing here. If I understand it correctly, this was originally another team doing it then naughty dog took over right? So they probably were already going off of this base and that’s why it’s like this. Honestly if they did add rt GI and reflections that would be enough for me to count it as a next gen game and it would look amazing, but I don’t see it happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I’m getting it, just not at 70 freaking dollars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 blah blah blah who cares. it looks amazing no matter what. the graphics are the least of the things they could have improved. i’m much more interested in the increased frames and better combat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 3 hours ago, johnny said: blah blah blah who cares. it looks amazing no matter what. the graphics are the least of the things they could have improved. i’m much more interested in the increased frames and better combat. I'm looking for to the Ellie / Clicker Benny Hill routine in glorious 4K 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 5 hours ago, stepee said: I don’t think we are even going to get ray tracing here. If I understand it correctly, this was originally another team doing it then naughty dog took over right? So they probably were already going off of this base and that’s why it’s like this. Honestly if they did add rt GI and reflections that would be enough for me to count it as a next gen game and it would look amazing, but I don’t see it happening. Raytracing would inevitably cut into performance budgets in other ways that could detract from the visual fidelity on consoles. I don’t think every developer is ready to, or should be making those compromises to be ‘next-gen.’ Maybe not using it is the wrong call here. But hey, at least it’s still an early gen project from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 From girl in her early 20s to lady in her late 40s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 I thought Tess was supposed to be around Joel's age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dre801 said: I thought Tess was supposed to be around Joel's age? Yea, she was always late 30s early 40s. Not sure what @Keyser_Sozeis on about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Yea, she was always late 30s early 40s. Not sure what @Keyser_Sozeis on about Just going by what the screenshot looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Just now, Keyser_Soze said: Just going by what the screenshot looks like. PS3 just couldn't handle age 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 tbf society can’t handle age either 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 32 minutes ago, stepee said: tbf society can’t handle age either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, stepee said: tbf society can’t handle age either Our bodies can't handle age. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Lol, she looks to be in her early 70s. I'm not to hyped for this. I want part 3. Fuck this remake shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Gamers upset they can’t fantasize about their npcs. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 39 minutes ago, best3444 said: Lol, she looks to be in her early 70s. I'm not to hyped for this. I want part 3. Fuck this remake shit. Hey don't knock it! Mary Steenburgen could still get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Living in a post apocalyptic hellscape ages you faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Some of the responses here actually make me want to clarify that I posted that tweet laughing at the poster, not agreeing with them :P Women in their 40’s are able to look like women in their 40’s, it’s okay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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